Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Jolly
Liam S Docherty wrote: the current format of news articles do not parse well at all, not to mention are rather difficult to extract from the surrounding mark-up code. The simplified version suffers from the same problem, so I was wondering are there any nice html versions or even plain text

Re: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Jolly
Simon Cobb wrote: p2p though? I thought it was straight downloads. Can anyone set me straight? Thanks. It's p2p - based on Kontiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontiki S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Jolly
Phil Winstanley wrote: Any idea what time it’ll be available? This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the 27^th : - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer When I go to that link I see a Find out more and register... link that takes me through to the signup page. I'm connecting

[backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Phil Winstanley
Any idea what time it'll be available? This press release [1] says it'll be available from here on the 27th: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer Cheers, Phil. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/06_june/27/i player.shtml

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 27 Jul 2007, at 08:55, Phil Winstanley wrote: Any idea what time it’ll be available? This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the 27th: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer Hi Phil No idea what the official line is, but the registration form has been up since last

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:08, Steve Jolly wrote: Phil Winstanley wrote: Any idea what time it’ll be available? This press release [1] says it’ll be available from here on the 27^th : - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer When I go to that link I see a Find out more and register... link that takes

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread ~:'' ありがとうございました 。
Liam, I'm having a similar issue in that I wish to parse to SVG, and this could be easier... in fact in large part it's a problem with the specifications... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:48, Liam S Docherty wrote: The low graphics version sufffer from the same problem,

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Liam S Docherty
The low graphics version sufffer from the same problem, in that the html is not considered well formed by the standard Java parsers. I suppose I could try tidy up the html before parsing =) Thanks Liam Have you looked at the low graphics version? eg

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Gordon Joly
At 12:13 +0100 27/7/07, Martin Belam wrote: As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the iPlayer-library-component-thing doesn't support Vista yet all the best, martin The beta testing (sic) is being carried out on a old version Microsoft's operating system? Is that

Re: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread Martin Belam
or 'book' to download for watching later? Rather oddly the BBC Executive didn't explicitally include the functionality to bookmark future broadcasts in their submission to the BBC Trust during the Public Value Test. Consequently, the Trust decided to specifically rule out the iPlayer having that

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread James Bridle
How are the accounts being allocated? I signed up this morning, and like Owen I'm wondering when I'll hear. Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac... shorttermmemoryloss.com Owen Griffin wrote: On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jul

Re: [backstage] Making the underground accessible to all

2007-07-27 Thread vijay chopra
Hi Dave, Sun opened Java a while ago: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/ it's free now. Vijay. On 27/07/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Another glimpse at the future of television: http://www.rulecam.net/ted/ (Free software under MIT/X11 style licensing, although its

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Owen Griffin
On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:08, Steve Jolly wrote: Phil Winstanley wrote: Any idea what time it'll be available? This press release [1] says it'll be available from here on the 27^th : - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer When I go to that

RE: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread luciane . aquino
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Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Richard Lockwood
It does work on all initial target systems. XP. Vista, Linux Mac to come later. The key word in Martin's post was yet. R. On 7/27/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:13 +0100 27/7/07, Martin Belam wrote: As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the

[backstage] Making the underground accessible to all

2007-07-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, Another glimpse at the future of television: http://www.rulecam.net/ted/ (Free software under MIT/X11 style licensing, although its depends on proprietary Java :-( -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-27 Thread Andrew McParland
Hi Terry, Please contact me off the list and we'll have a chat. As I mentioned, I only have access to a few extra years of data. Andrew BBC Research and Innovation On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:22:50AM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote: Andrew, If you have data going back prior to June 22 2005, how

RE: [backstage] Making the underground accessible to all

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Forrester
Is it only me? Why is I have both Icepodder (ipodder) and Azureus open at the same time on my machine at home? Surely Azureus is clever enough to handle podcasts like icepodder? Ted looks cool, but once again why add another app to the mix? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ]

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Matthew Somerville
Liam S Docherty wrote: The low graphics version sufffer from the same problem, in that the html is not considered well formed by the standard Java parsers. I suppose I could try tidy up the html before parsing =) In this situation, I'd always suggest BeautifulSoup, but I'm afraid that's

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Kim Plowright
I understand that the BBC tracks external links in order to provide stats to respond to the Graf report's requirement for the BBC to link externally more often, and become part of the web. That's done with something in the footer, which automagically rewrites external links to have go tracking

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Jason Cartwright
I'd imagine stats on which story is clicked is quite valuable, particularly when moreover are ranking the stories. I understand that the BBC tracks external links in order to provide stats to respond to the Graf report's requirement for the BBC to link externally more often, and become part of

RE: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Jeremy Stone
Is anyone aware of any reason why they do not link directly to the story on the relevant site instead? The journalists working on the relevant news story pick the related link to publish alongside their piece. However they use a tool to help them in this task where stories are suggested to

RE: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread Simon Cobb
Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 27 July 2007 09:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com Simon Cobb wrote: p2p though? I thought it was straight downloads. Can

[backstage] Your chance to inform the BBC Digital Media Initiative

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Forrester
We are proud to introduce a new initiative with the BBC Digital Media Initiative (DMI), which will affect the BBC for many years to come. Something which I'm sure the Backstage Community will and could sink its teeth into :) From how the metadata is structured to what formats we should or could

RE: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread migc63
Will it be wholly P2P? Or will it operate on a similar principle to 4OD, where you can stream now and watch on demand, or 'book' to download for watching later? - c _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: 27 July 2007 09:06 To:

Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Sean Dillon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/americas/6918490.stm I know this is totally off topic but I notice that the links to external stories are actually being redirected through moreover.com rather than link directly to the site in question (even if it does go through the internal Beeb redirect

RE: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Yanda
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 27 July 2007 08:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Plain text or easy-to-parse news articles Liam S Docherty wrote: the current format of news articles do not

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Gary Kirk
Why is Windows Vista unsupported? Windows XP is no longer the 'current' version of the operating system and hasn't been for nearly six months. Surely iPlayer should have been developed for both, or what's the point of betas and testing and bla? On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Martin Belam
As I understand it, it is that the Kontiki client underpinning the iPlayer-library-component-thing doesn't support Vista yet all the best, martin On 27/07/07, Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is Windows Vista unsupported? Windows XP is no longer the 'current' version of the operating

Re: [backstage] Your chance to inform the BBC Digital Media Initiative

2007-07-27 Thread Richard P Edwards
Ian, This looks brilliant. RichE On 27 Jul 2007, at 17:33, Ian Forrester wrote: We are proud to introduce a new initiative with the BBC Digital Media Initiative (DMI), which will affect the BBC for many years to come. Something which I'm sure the Backstage Community will and could sink

[backstage] Lugradio/ BBC/ iPlayer

2007-07-27 Thread George Wright
Hey backstage folk, The people at lug radio have an interesting podcast about (amongst the usual *spectacular* amounts of swearing and random nonsense) possible ways to get iPlayer working on GNU/ Linux, Mac, etc. There are torrents and direct downloads for both mp3 and ogg here:

RE: [backstage] Your chance to inform the BBC Digital Media Initiative

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Forrester
Oh you don't know the half of it. Informing the technical roadmap for the future of the BBC is going to be massive. All on the day of the public iplayer :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201

[backstage] iPlayer Facebook Application

2007-07-27 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Hi Those who you who were at Hackday will remember Ben Smith and I demoing an iPlayer Facebook application. We have just launched the application to coincide with today's launch of iPlayer. Those of you who have access to the iPlayer beta can install the Facebook application here:

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Facebook Application

2007-07-27 Thread Gary Kirk
For those who aren't in the beta, could you please explain what it does? Regards, On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Those who you who were at Hackday will remember Ben Smith and I demoing an iPlayer Facebook application. We have just launched the application to coincide

Re: [backstage] Making the underground accessible to all

2007-07-27 Thread Dave Crossland
On 27/07/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun opened Java a while ago: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/ it's free now. Sun announced an intention to release Java under GPLv2. It is not free now. http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/README.html -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the

RE: [backstage] iPlayer Facebook Application

2007-07-27 Thread Christopher Woods
, that's nice! Installed and worked first time with my closed beta login, I might as well do a little addition to my beta test blog iplayer entry in a bit :) (http://thebetatestblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/fabled-iplayer-review.html if you're curious, if you're still waiting for your login

RE: [backstage] iplayer reviewed on mashable.com

2007-07-27 Thread Christopher Woods
I was under the impression that the series link / prebook features were still under consultation, and would most likely arrive sometime soon down the line? That's a little disheartening, if it's been definitely ruled out. -Original Message- From: Martin Belam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Paul Daniel
Mine just came through. As quickly as I had hoped for and much more quickly than I had expected. Just have to see now if it will work through my proxy (Joost didn't).   Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Bridle Sent: 27 July

RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Eamonn Neylon
Does the BBC need a new queuing system, perchance? I signed up this morning, and all I've had is a website response saying 'If we're able to invite you' - guess that's a 'no' then Eamonn Neylon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Facebook Application

2007-07-27 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 27 Jul 2007, at 20:34, Christopher Woods wrote: , that's nice! Installed and worked first time with my closed beta login, I might as well do a little addition to my beta test blog iplayer entry in a bit :) Thanks. I'm relieved to hear it installed ok and that you like it.

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread Andy
On 27/07/07, Owen Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried using the iPlayer on Linux using wine? I could wait for the Linux version but I'm quite impatient. :) I doubt it would work under WINE. The BBC worked exceptionally hard to make sure it won't run under non Windows platforms.

Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-27 Thread mike chamberlain
On 7/27/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Also if anyone at the BBC can answer this question it would be helpful: If the BBC supports standards as it so often claims why use Kontiki and not the more common and widely used Bit torrent protocol for it's content delivery?). I'd guess it's