RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Christopher Woods
Generally if you take the p*** I'll get shouted at and I'll ask you nicely to close the service/script/prototype :) of course breaking the backstage licence will you a heavy knock at the door :) Publishing some definitions might help :) The first rule about the Backstage Licence is

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 16-Feb-2010, at 16:59, Christopher Woods wrote: Simile time: trying to control, or fighting against, cross-platform consumption, usage on previously unconceived platforms and/or unexpected adaption of the service to new forms of consumption is like swimming against a rip tide. Either it's

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Richard P Edwards
On 16 Feb 2010, at 22:34, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 16-Feb-2010, at 16:59, Christopher Woods wrote: Simile time: trying to control, or fighting against, cross-platform consumption, usage on previously unconceived platforms and/or unexpected adaption of the service to new forms of

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Christopher Woods
Excellently put. What made me more sad was that I felt I needed to state the obvious :( I wish I could be a fly on the wall in a meeting between the Beeb and controlling rightsholders / contract negotiators for the current iPlayer programming. There must be some serious long-term powerplays

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Dave Addey
Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk Reply-To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:55:40 - To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV Sorry been out at Fosdem, so missed this. Will post it up on backstage, good work Tweed! Still enjoy

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dave Addey listma...@addey.com wrote: As another alternative to Boxee and XBMC, you can always use Plex (http://www.plexapp.com/) and my Plex iPlayer plugin (downloadable from Plex's in-app plugin list). I'm using this on a Mac Mini hooked up to a projector,

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:43, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: Can anyone shed more light on this distinction? With the likes of Boxee on the rise, it's hard to understand where PCs stop and 'set top boxes' start. So if there are big legal/contractual distinctions defined using these

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Iain Wallace
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dave Addey listma...@addey.com wrote: As another alternative to Boxee and XBMC, you can always use Plex (http://www.plexapp.com/) and my Plex iPlayer plugin (downloadable from Plex's in-app

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Forrester
Well I think this is the issue, in a nutshell. I can't, won't talk for the rest of the BBC but it seems if your streaming iplayer content inside the UK on to your PC device, that's fine. However if you download the files your on the wrong side of a line. If it was that simple that would be

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 16:54, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Well I think this is the issue, in a nutshell. I can't, won't talk for the rest of the BBC but it seems if your streaming iplayer content inside the UK on to your PC device, that's fine. However if you download the

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 17:37, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: In fact, why is ANY of this different to me recording a copy with a PVR[0] (a copy which, incidentally, I can keep pretty much indefinitely and in a format which is convenient)? the belated footnote: [0] be it entirely

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Well I think this is the issue, in a nutshell. I can't, won't talk for the rest of the BBC but it seems if your streaming iplayer content inside the UK on to your PC device, that's fine. However if you download

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-09 Thread Ian Forrester
: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV On 3 Feb 2010, at 13:09, Mo McRoberts wrote: Really really not a fan of Boxee's UI. Nor XMBC's, for that matter. Both seem pretty sluggish on the aTV, especially compared to the native UI. Which is exactly why I made this. I didn't buy an Apple TV to run Boxee

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 2 Feb 2010, at 22:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: Thanks, it's been a fun project. Do feel free to fork and improve :) Nifty! At last, a use for the Apple TV? ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Simon Cross
Tweed, once again, I love you. Will be SSH hacking tonight. S On 02/02/2010 22:14, Jonathan Tweed jonat...@tweed.name wrote: On 2 Feb 2010, at 21:43, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 2-Feb-2010, at 21:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:22, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: On 2 Feb 2010, at 22:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: Thanks, it's been a fun project. Do feel free to fork and improve :) Nifty!  At last, a use for the Apple TV? ;-) Watching iPlayer content is actually precisely what I use

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:51, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org wrote: Are the links fine ? Getting an endless redirect* ? (Am wondering how easy I can get this into the normal frontrow of a normal mac-mini - which is what I use with ElGato as my main TV). Github had an outage last

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 2 Feb 2010, at 21:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might be of interest to a few people here: an Apple TV plugin for BBC iPlayer. Details are here: http://jonathan.tweed.name/2010/02/02/bbc-iplayer-for-apple-tv/ And the source

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Jeremy Stone
. - Original Message - From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Wed Feb 03 10:22:11 2010 Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV On 2 Feb 2010, at 22:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: Thanks

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Phil Whitehouse
: . - Original Message - From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Wed Feb 03 10:22:11 2010 Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV On 2 Feb 2010, at 22:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: Thanks, it's been

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:32, Phil Whitehouse phil.whiteho...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried this alongside aTV Flash on the Apple TV? My woeful tech skills don't extend to the command line, but I've been very happy with aTV Flash so far. The only thing missing has been iPlayer. So maybe

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:51, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On 2 Feb 2010, at 21:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might be of interest to a few people here: an Apple TV plugin for BBC iPlayer. Details are here:

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 3 Feb 2010, at 13:09, Mo McRoberts wrote: Really really not a fan of Boxee's UI. Nor XMBC's, for that matter. Both seem pretty sluggish on the aTV, especially compared to the native UI. Which is exactly why I made this. I didn't buy an Apple TV to run Boxee. Cheers Jonathan - Sent via

[backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Hi I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might be of interest to a few people here: an Apple TV plugin for BBC iPlayer. Details are here: http://jonathan.tweed.name/2010/02/02/bbc-iplayer-for-apple-tv/ And the source is here:

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-02 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 2-Feb-2010, at 21:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might be of interest to a few people here: an Apple TV plugin for BBC iPlayer. Ohhh, very nice work! Not tried it yet, mind. It'd require re-jailbreaking my aTV. might give it a whirl

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 2 Feb 2010, at 21:43, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 2-Feb-2010, at 21:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: I've been working on something over the last few weeks that might be of interest to a few people here: an Apple TV plugin for BBC iPlayer. Ohhh, very nice work! Not tried it yet, mind. It'd