Etienne Pollard wrote:
You might be interested to learn about a new project that has just
been launched by TheyWorkForYou.com - an online video archive of the
House of Commons, with video clips posted in Flash video format
alongside the text of speeches from Hansard.
Just tried it out. I did
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Andy wrote:
Just tried it out. I did notice the text from Hansard was not actually
the same as what was said, is this common?
As it says in the bullet points to the right of the video and text:
Hansard is not a verbatim transcript, so spoken words might differ
slightly
Now that you know what happens I bet you won't do that again...
Cheers,
jod
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John O'Donovan wrote:
Now that you know what happens I bet you won't do that again...
Actually, I think that behaviour is a bug, but as I'm now out of
scratch pantaloons to test with, I'll leave it for others more
versed in surprise linguo-tailoring incidents to investigate.
--
Frank Wales
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:17 PM, John O'Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way MySociety have approached this simplifies a difficult task and makes
the video more accessible as a result.
It is a great way to democratise the process of democratising democracy
Glad to hear that you like it!
Well done Etienne,
A fantastic piece of work...
But I would have to take issue with your view John, of Hansard being an
entirely representative view of what went on in the various chambers...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7187907.stm ;-)
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Leitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well done Etienne,
A fantastic piece of work...
Thank you for the compliment. It wasn't just me, by any means - there
were also very significant amounts of work done by Matthew Somerville
and other members of the
No comment.
There are of course many ways to ensure unparliamentarily language is
not used.
The BBC has it's own.
If you swear on this list for example, your trousers will fall down like
a comedy clown.
Cheers,
jod
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John O'Donovan wrote:
If you swear on this list for example, your trousers will fall down like
a comedy clown.
Huh. I did not know that.
But how sensitive is this language-sensitive depant-o-tron? Let's find out...
What word starts with 'f' and ends in 'uck'?
Firetruck!
Generally a great idea.
But why on earth is this being done this way?
The Astons on the channel carry the information anyway, and we know that
this can be fed into another computer system, as the MHEG5 version of BBC
Parliament.
I can't be that hard for BBC Parliament to provide the feed of
Brian Butterworth wrote:
But why on earth is this being done this way?
If by Astons you mean the superimposed captions, then if you had read the
text below (and the blog posting linked to), you would see that we did try
exactly that and it sadly just wasn't good enough.
ATB,
Matthew
The
However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely?
Seriously, where would the fun in that be?
Phil 'timestamp-tastic' Wilson
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I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO
2008/6/4 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely?
Seriously, where would the fun in that be?
Phil
Phil Wilson wrote:
Phil 'timestamp-tastic' Wilson
People are catching up on you, Phil, better get back to it! ;-)
ATB,
Matthew
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is an Aston?
Aston is a company who provide systems for generating on-screen graphics
for live programmes - however it's also used as a generic term for those
same graphics. So the kind of graphics like you get on the News where
they'll say Nick Higham reporting,
I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO
Yes, I know it. Take a look at Etienne's reply for one aspect of the details and why the
captions may also count as garbage.
Another important point is that the video captioner they've
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I thought they were trying to do OCR on the captions from the DVB-T
stream.
No, we have clear text. As it says in the blog post :-)
However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely?
Sadly not (trust me, I've spent some time on this!) - even
2008/6/4 Etienne Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought they were trying to do OCR on the captions from the DVB-T
stream.
What I was saying was that the old Freeview version of BBC Parliament
used
to have a
Phil,
2008/6/4 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO
Yes, I know it. Take a look at Etienne's reply for one aspect of the
details and why the captions may also count as garbage.
Another
Aston is a company who provide systems for generating
on-screen graphics for live programmes - however it's also
used as a generic term for those same graphics. So the kind
of graphics like you get on the News where they'll say Nick
Higham reporting, the name of an interviewee or
On 6/4/08, Etienne Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I was saying was that the old Freeview version of BBC Parliament used
to have a quarter-screen picture and the information that is now in the
Astons was
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