Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-11 Thread Stephen Joyce
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Hannes Elvemyr wrote: Hi! I'm using BackupPC for all my machines and it's great! I would now like to protect my BackupPC pool somehow (if my BackupPC server crashes, gets stolen or burns up I don't want to loose the data). As I see it, I have at least two options: 1. Run a

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:12:30 +0200 Hannes Elvemyr wrote: > I'm taking about BPC itself. Why? Let's take an example. > > 00:30 My nightly rsync script starts to sync pool to off-site storage. > This night, there happens to be a lot of new data an it takes time. > 01:00

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Hannes Elvemyr
I'm taking about BPC itself. Why? Let's take an example.00:30 My nightly rsync script starts to sync pool to off-site storage. This night, there happens to be a lot of new data an it takes time.01:00 BackupPC_Nightly starts cleaning the pool! Rsync is still running!01:15 My nightly rsync script is

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Hannes Elvemyr wrote: > Would it be wise to stop/start BackupPC every night? Can it introduce any > problem? What if my copy process (for instance rsync over Internet to an > off-site storage) takes 1 hour, maybe 2 hours some days, well that

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 00:16:27 +0200 Hannes Elvemyr wrote: > Would it be wise to stop/start BackupPC every night? Can it introduce > any problem? What if my copy process (for instance rsync over Internet > to an off-site storage) takes 1 hour, maybe 2 hours some days, well >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Hannes Elvemyr
Hi!Thanks for great response!tar + copy will of course take a long time and be inefficient due to the amount of data. What about rsync? Is there any reason why the normal benefits of rsync over tar+copy would not apply for the BackupPC v4 pool?Is there anything, any options to the command, to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-10 Thread Hannes Elvemyr
Would it be wise to stop/start BackupPC every night? Can it introduce any problem? What if my copy process (for instance rsync over Internet to an off-site storage) takes 1 hour, maybe 2 hours some days, well that interfere with BackupPC_Nightly? /Hannes Original Message Subject:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:26:26 +0800 Alexey Safonov wrote: > you can use for example FreeNAS (ZFS based) which can sync snapshots. you can even do better (depending on your IT Dpt size), using GlusterFS onto ZFS, and synchronize with the remote site :) However, these

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Alexey Safonov
you can use for example FreeNAS (ZFS based) which can sync snapshots. On 10 August 2017 at 06:38, B wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:29:49 -0600 > Ray Frush wrote: > >> A snapshot of the BackupPC Filesystem does not protect from gross >> hardware

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:29:49 -0600 Ray Frush wrote: > A snapshot of the BackupPC Filesystem does not protect from gross > hardware failure of the storage that destroys both the data and the > snapshots. I think he meant making a snapshot then convey it to he's 2nd site.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Ray Frush
A snapshot of the BackupPC Filesystem does not protect from gross hardware failure of the storage that destroys both the data and the snapshots. -- Ray Frush On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users < backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On 8/9/2017 11:47

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users
On 8/9/2017 11:47 PM, Hannes Elvemyr wrote: Sound great, but how do I know that BackupPC is not reading/writing to the pool during the copying process (maybe some backup is running or BackupPC_Nightly could start doing some cleaning). Copying a large pool over a bad Internet connection could

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:47:25 +0200 Hannes Elvemyr wrote: I forgot: for either solution, you wanna have a deep look at https://www.wireguard.com/ , a VPN solution faster than any competition, very easy to set up, protected by PFS and elliptic curve crypto. JY

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Ray Frush
Hannes- Option 2, Copying the the pool (tar, then copy) to a remote server appears to be viable for small installations, and we've tested that with success. But at a certain point, if you have a lot of machines, and your pool gets large, that process becomes un-manageable. (Our pool is about

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:47:25 +0200 Hannes Elvemyr wrote: > Hi! Biscotte Hannes, > I'm using BackupPC for all my machines and it's great! I would now > like to protect my BackupPC pool somehow (if my BackupPC server > crashes, gets stolen or burns up I don't want to loose the

[BackupPC-users] Backing up the BackupPC pool

2017-08-09 Thread Hannes Elvemyr
Hi! I'm using BackupPC for all my machines and it's great! I would now like to protect my BackupPC pool somehow (if my BackupPC server crashes, gets stolen or burns up I don't want to loose the data). As I see it, I have at least two options: 1. Run a second instance of BackupPC off-site