Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-21 Thread Ray Frush
Les- Putting the Mac vs (anything else) argument aside, as it detracts from the discussion, I would like to add that even low end NAS devices like the QNAP offer filesystem snapshots that are, for the purposes of a home office or small business seamless. At $WORK, I've used NetApp, EMC Isilon,

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:59 AM, B wrote: > > @GW Haywood: this would be limited to executive people that usually know > what they're doing and are the only ones that are working on not-to-lose > docs ie: big spreadsheets - the idea is to entirely pull off any admin > from

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-21 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 06:29:46 -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > A better solution would be a change to rsyncd to monitor its > filesystem and remember which files were touched since the last > backup. Yep, this is much closer to what I imagined. > Some filesystems have a

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-21 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:54 AM +0200 B wrote: An addition to BPC could do the trick, preferably saving the result in another directory than the main one, by checking which files have been touched the present day and save them automatically; it may be triggered from

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-21 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, B wrote: ... clumsy users would be able to recover their work very rapidly with at most one hour loss ... How about that ? You want to apply a technical answer to a non-technical question. Bad idea. It is vastly more expensive to employ highly trained

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 17:27:30 +0200 Daniel Berteaud wrote: > Because what you want to achieve is not really backups, but some kind > of rotative snapshots. There are lots of different ways to do this > (LVM, LVM-thin, btrfs, zfs etc..), and this is very dependant on

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Daniel Berteaud
Le 20/07/2017 à 15:54, B a écrit : On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:26:18 +0200 Daniel Berteaud wrote: I think this is out of BackupPC's scope Please develop, don't drop me dry, why is that? Why adding a kinda-Xtiple-fugitive-daily-snapshots of only touched files is

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:18:44 -0600 Ray Frush wrote: > I believe you could do something like you propose with the current > BackupPC by setting the "IncrPeriod' to 0.04 (1/24 of a day). You'd > have to make some interesting settings for "FillCycle" and > "FullKeepCnt"

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:17:29 -0500 Les Mikesell wrote: > You can set the schedule to run as often as you like, but the > underlying tools are going to have to traverse the whole directory > tree to find the touched files, which you probably don't want to > happen while you

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Ray Frush
I believe you could do something like you propose with the current BackupPC by setting the "IncrPeriod' to 0.04 (1/24 of a day). You'd have to make some interesting settings for "FillCycle" and "FullKeepCnt" to make it keep a usable schedule, but you could then have 'hourly' incrementals. As

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM, B wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:26:18 +0200 > Daniel Berteaud wrote: > >> I think this is out of BackupPC's scope > > Please develop, don't drop me dry, why is that? > Why adding a

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:26:18 +0200 Daniel Berteaud wrote: > I think this is out of BackupPC's scope Please develop, don't drop me dry, why is that? Why adding a kinda-Xtiple-fugitive-daily-snapshots of only touched files is out of the BPC's scope ? On the other

Re: [BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-20 Thread Daniel Berteaud
Le 20/07/2017 à 02:54, B a écrit : Hi Bacukppcers, My suggestion is to avoid using such things as FS snapshots during the day to avoid work losses. An addition to BPC could do the trick, preferably saving the result in another directory than the main one, by checking which files have been

[BackupPC-users] I'd like to make a suggestion to the BPC devs

2017-07-19 Thread Bzzzz
Hi Bacukppcers, My suggestion is to avoid using such things as FS snapshots during the day to avoid work losses. An addition to BPC could do the trick, preferably saving the result in another directory than the main one, by checking which files have been touched the present day and save them