Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear friends, There was a recent post on Facebook concerning extra-terrestrial life forms among us and how they have contacted certain people. Among them is a Steven Greer, who is the director of the Disclosure Project, which seems to claim that the government and

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. We (common people) have no way to prove his claims, I think the evidence is persuasive but not enough

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Mike, Mark Foster has been following this guy. If we can bring Mark out of occultation, he might be able to tell us something but his description to me was the same as yours. warmest, Susan On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike Moum mike.m...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. My understanding is that he is still on the membership list.

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Susan,  I doubt he is a bahá'í, if he is I'd be positively impressed that he was not removed from the rolls because of his political activities. How does he faced some radical bahá'ís hungry to punish anyone who deviate a hair from the official view and practice,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I doubt he is a bahá'í, if he is I'd be positively impressed that he was not removed from the rolls because of his political activities. I believe Mark checked and found he was still enrolled. If he is a bahá'í I'd be also surpraised that the media and the world

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I never looked for his religious background, never imagine he was related to the Bahá'í Faith in any sense. The main questions here are: Is he lying or not? Did he find conclusive evidence about aliens visiting earth or not? I saw a video where he call people to

ESW quote

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings, who are none other but the divines of Persia. . . . . . . . . . . . By “divines” in the passage cited above is meant those men who outwardly attire themselves with the raiment of knowledge,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv RE: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars, cheats, schemes, and cultists. A few people are even telling the truth occasionally. ;-) Whether a person is an enrolled Baha'i or not certainly is not (to me) even a main criterion of whether to

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Another point of view on Greer and others: The UFO Disclosure Myth- http://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/disclosure.htm On 6/21/2013 2:10 PM, Jeanine H. wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv RE: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Greer's CSETI organization should not be confused with the older SETI Institute, which a number of Baha'is are involved with. They permit their home computers to be accessed via the internet to function as part of a cluster that provides the computing power of a

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Jeanine wrote: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars, cheats, schemes, and cultists. A few people are even telling the truth occasionally. ;-) Whether a person is an enrolled Baha'i or not certainly is not (to me) even a main criterion of

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv What about the image of the Faith? I think Dr. Steven Greer is not just a human talking, if is a bahá'í then there are some problems. The main problem is that he is not exercising his profession so many would see him profiting with lies, and imagine if internauts

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would agree with both you and Hasan Elias. Of course this is particularly unfortunate, since he drags the Name of the Faith down in the mud with him. Unfortunately, there are always folks like this around. I pray the Faith becomes well-enough known so that nutters

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The full backing phrase should be full support (was working from memory),   and came from thus thread:  http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=planetbahaictx=cacheTag=24-4msg=9829.3gid=2028608331 And here's a link to a Facebook page called Baha'i

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, The first link doesn't work (need suscription, I will not suscribe), the second link is just another bahá'í page on Facebook, there are hundreds. This page, of course is somewhat bizarre but not so far from average. The problem of social network is that

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hmmm. I got to the page through a Google search. Not sure why it's not working. It comes from an old Delphi forum called planet bahai. The poster claims that Greer has the full support of the House. Reading on in the thread, it seems that the letter from the House

Re: ESW quote

2013-06-21 Thread Sen McGlinn
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 21 Jun 2013 at 13:06, Don Calkins wrote: These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings, who are none other but the divines of Persia. . . . . . . . . . . . By “divines” in the passage cited above is meant those men who outwardly

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread John Bromberek
The Baha'i Studies Listserv At 06:19 PM 6/21/2013, Mike wrote: Hmmm. I got to the page through a Google search. Not sure why it's not working. It comes from an old Delphi forum called planet bahai. The link did work for me. A pretty goofy conversation, there. ...there's a compilation from

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And I assume it is the various references in the Writings to extra-terrestrial beings and creatures. I would suggest people interested in the topic read Troxel's paper on the subject - http://bahai-library.com/troxel_extraterrestrials_exotheology Abstract:

Re: ESW quote

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv So an alternative, more literal, translation would be - These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings, who are none other but the learned of Persia. . . . . . . . . . . . By “the learned” in the passage cited above is meant those men who

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Personally,  I think it quite likely that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. As a Baha'i, I agree that the Revelation allows for that possibility. As a scientist, there is no evidence that such life exists, and at the same time there is also no

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I think Mike has summarized the current factual state of the issue pretty well as I also see it. Jeanine H. On 6/21/2013 11:01 PM, Mike Moum wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Personally, I think it quite likely that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv , there's a compilation from the House on extraterrestrials that's a real eye opener (which I can't find any evidence for), and on and on it goes. It all leaves me a bit speechless. I noted that one source supposedly from this supposed compilation was a quotation

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As one pundit once said, with tongue in cheek, the proof that there's intelligent life in the universe is that they haven't tried to contact us yet. Well put! __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: