[BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais and NLP to search RSS feeds for very specfic information. The presentation will cover the

Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
I downloaded the source tarball for Python 3.1 from python.org and built it. Works fine now. However, I don't know what could be the implications when I start downloading and installing modules for the other version of Python ( version 2.6 ) that came with the Linux distribution. On Mon, Oct 12,

Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 12:33:46 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: they will go into site-packages of the 2.6 version - if you install properly. That will be dist-packages from 2.6 upwards. my fedora 11 2.6 has site-packages, no dist-packages -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread JAGANADH G
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Pradip Caulagi caul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..]  It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been  only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali  and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. We can

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivasachari
+1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 2:06:01 pm Ramdas S wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Vishal
+1 Vishal Sapre On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Srinivasachari srinivasachari2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them?

[BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: [..] Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? [..] Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. --

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Hi list,

Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama shara...@tarangtech.comwrote: Hi, My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I have a query regarding meetings Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. Regards, Sharath Sama Anyone

[BangPypers] Re

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have I have attended Pycon and observed you people(noufal,senthil,ShyamShankar,AB,Kenneth) talking that's why i said. Regards,

[BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. That was a big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what they are teaching(in training) me? they taught entire java in 5 days and expected to do programming by the end of it which i couldn't.OOPS was a big ghost to me back

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service companies.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate jargon and using it drive your queries. Search isn't generally a skill taught in

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product development in India. But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs so build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in

[BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
But StackOverflow http://stackoverflow.com/ is changing all that. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky -- Vinayak On

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 5:18:07 pm Vinayak Hegde wrote: Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Zaki Manian z...@manian.org wrote: I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. Programming Pearls - Jon Bentley -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. -- Vinayak On

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Sharath Sama
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Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland

Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama shara...@tarangtech.com wrote: Hi, My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I have a query regarding meetings Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. Regards, Sharath Sama Anyone

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Yuvi Panda
Most important reason being people joining CS because of fashion and not because they like it. In my entire class of 68, only 4 joined CS because they liked it. The rest simply because they didn't want to 'disobey parents'. The 'don't question it' culture hurts. 20 people got 90+ in OOP in my

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Thanks Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: ... [:)] ... [:P]... ... [:)] ... [:)] Orkut overdose? :) Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to

Re: [BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Rajeev J Sebastian
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. That was a  big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what they are teaching(in training) me? they taught entire java in 5

[BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)

2009-10-15 Thread Sidharth Kuruvila
AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The question is how do we implement a recursive function in a language in which names can only be

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Tejas Dinkar
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic! There is a hypothesis presented in Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, on cultural

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread David Lyon
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:22:25 +0530, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the Indian

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 8:31:11 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? I think you didn't see the +1 at the end of the email. I saw one with 4'' characters before it -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: failing - and if you do lose respect you hang yourself. In fact I once made a remark about RMS, and was told 'at least respect him as an elder'. Why should I? He is younger than me ;-) Hahaha. :-D *must avoid

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. Hopefully more people will join in on the day. I will send another email to confirm this. Vishal Sapre On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM,

Re: [BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)

2009-10-15 Thread Siddharta
Sidharth Kuruvila wrote: AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The Y combinator is quite interesting. I blogged about this a little

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 10/16/09, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. Hopefully more people will join in on the day. I will send another email to

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. I'd like to showcase some of Belenix - especially the

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
+1 from me. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been working on for the last few weeks which uses

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Anurag Priyam
How come no one mentioned ESR's CatB? I loved it. - The Cathedral and the Bazzar by Eric S Raymond -- Anurag Priyam 2nd Year,Mechanical Engineering, IIT Kharagpur. +91-9775550642 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Amit Saha
Zaki Manian wrote: Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. You could consider Crossword near M.G.Road or Landmark at Kormangla Forum mall as a repo of all kinds of

Re: [BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: Folks: Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it ready by Sunday. We can also test all this before the meet Is Baiju around

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:36:35 +0530 Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic!

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 11:16:05 am Amit Saha wrote: Zaki Manian wrote: Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. You could consider Crossword near M.G.Road or Landmark