Re: [BangPypers] June meet up

2010-06-24 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Variety. No *real* reason. In that case we could ask Saju and have the meetup at NSRCEL, IIM-B. How about this Sunday (June 27th) at 15:00?

Re: [BangPypers] June meet up

2010-06-24 Thread Shiv Shankar
I'd like to hear it too. -- shiv ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] June meet up

2010-06-24 Thread Rahul R
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Abhishek Mishra ideam...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the apac talk, I and a friend would definitely be interested. That's 3 people including me. Anyone else? What about the venue? We

Re: [BangPypers] June meet up

2010-06-24 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Rahul R rahul8...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Abhishek Mishra ideam...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the apac talk, I and a friend would definitely be interested.

Re: [BangPypers] Facebook Event for PyCon India 2010

2010-06-24 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Pranav Prakash pra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe it would be great if the admins could create a

Re: [BangPypers] Indian Python Software Society

2010-06-24 Thread kausikram krishnasayee
they did not (except possibly Kaushik who did the formatting so may glanced at the content ah yes, after point 9 i started concentration on the whitespaces and wiki format and not the content. -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net |

[BangPypers] sorting of list

2010-06-24 Thread Vikram
Suppose i have this: -- z1 = [[34,44,'1011'],[40,60,'1011'],[50,50,'1013'],[40,20,'1011'],[10,30,'1013']] z1 [[34, 44, '1011'], [40, 60, '1011'], [50, 50, '1013'], [40, 20, '1011'], [10, 30, '1013']] for i in z1: print i [34, 44, '1011'] [40, 60, '1011'] [50, 50, '1013'] [40, 20,

Re: [BangPypers] sorting of list

2010-06-24 Thread Navin Kabra
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Vikram kp...@rediffmail.com wrote: Suppose i have this: z1 = [[34,44,'1011'],[40,60,'1011'],[50,50,'1013'],[40,20,'1011'],[10,30,'1013']] how do i sort the nested list z1 so as to obtain: bla =

[BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, what tools do people use when designing software? I tried dia once or twice but found it rather cumbersome -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Nothing beats a clean white sheet of paper and a nice pen for me. No enforced structure. No barriers. Once I start, I use org mode to keep a log/track. I also find that writing documentation before the program is fully done clears things in my head. On 6/25/10, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:22, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: what tools do people use when designing software? I tried dia once or twice but found it rather cumbersome UI? http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups is popular. I prefer paper/whiteboard. Nothing beats having a

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 June 2010 08:35:23 Roshan Mathews wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:22, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: what tools do people use when designing software? I tried dia once or twice but found it rather cumbersome UI? http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups is

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 09:03, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: UI?  http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups is popular.  I prefer paper/whiteboard.  Nothing beats having a designer do it for you. what do you mean by 'having a designer do it for you'? There are people who do UI

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 June 2010 09:34:42 Roshan Mathews wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 09:03, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: UI? http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups is popular. I prefer paper/whiteboard. Nothing beats having a designer do it for you. what do you mean by 'having

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Elvis Joel D'Souza
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Friday 25 June 2010 09:34:42 Roshan Mathews wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 09:03, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: UI? http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups is popular. I prefer

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:52:47AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I am not talking of ui design - I am talking about program design. I do not know what the technical word for it is but what I mean is that when a program has to do something one has to sketch out the data structures and

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 June 2010 10:57:00 Elvis Joel D'Souza wrote: program has to do something one has to sketch out the data structures and functions that are needed to get the thing done with the least possible effort. I think you are referring to Design Patterns Head First Design Patterns

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi, On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: I am not referring to Design Patterns - I think flow charting is the word I am looking for You can use UML with its Sequence Diagrams and State machine diagrams etc. to design/model systems. There are

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 June 2010 11:01:34 Senthil Kumaran wrote: I am not talking of ui design - I am talking about program design. I do not know what the technical word for it is but what I mean is that when a program has to do something one has to sketch out the data structures and functions that

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 June 2010 11:09:01 Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: I am not referring to Design Patterns - I think flow charting is the word I am looking for You can use UML with its Sequence Diagrams and State machine diagrams etc. to design/model systems. There are tools like BoUML

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread ThinRhino
On 25 June 2010 10:52, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: I am not talking of ui design - I am talking about program design. I do not know what the technical word for it is but what I mean is that when a program has to do something one has to sketch out the data structures and

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

2010-06-24 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:17, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: for one particular very complicated program, I modelled the whole workflow in dia - and found that the code worked perfectly on the first try. But I found dia a bit cumbersome, so I am looking for an alternative. I tried