[BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Darkseid
2. It's easy to hire an IDE-aware monkey to do programming in proven technology I do most of my work in Ruby (and have done for a few years now). Every day I bemoan the lack of a powerful refactoring IDE like Java has in IntelliJ. A good IDE is a massive productivity booster; you can only get

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Yuvi Panda
VS is no just-text editor. But hey, that's a flame war waiting to happen! On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: 2. It's easy to hire an IDE-aware monkey to do programming in proven technology I do most of my work in Ruby (and have done for a few years now).

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: 2. It's easy to hire an IDE-aware monkey to do programming in proven technology I do most of my work in Ruby (and have done for a few years now). Every day I bemoan the lack of a powerful refactoring IDE like Java has in

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Pradeep Gowda
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: 2. It's easy to hire an IDE-aware monkey to do programming in proven technology I do most of my work in Ruby (and have done for a few years now). Every day I bemoan the lack of a powerful refactoring IDE like Java has in

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: you can only get so far with a text editor*, no matter how many macros you have set up. Honestly. Macros?? Really??? Don't you mean no matter how many scripts you have set up :)

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Darkseid
Yes, yes, I know, I know. While I'm no vi or emacs guru, I've paired (for a fair amount of time) with experienced VI and Emacs users. Snippets, Ctags etc. help a great deal - but have you ever worked with an AST aware development environment where you can safely make structural changes across

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: 2. It's easy to hire an IDE-aware monkey to do programming in proven technology I do most of my work in Ruby (and have done for a few years now). Every day I bemoan the lack of a powerful refactoring IDE like Java has in

Re: [BangPypers] But IDEs rock! (was Google Go)

2009-11-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, yes, I know, I know. While I'm no vi or emacs guru, I've paired (for a fair amount of time) with experienced VI and Emacs users. Snippets, Ctags etc. help a great deal - but have you ever worked with an AST aware