This is not the first time someone has questioned, why it is Indians most
often caught asking questions without a little basic research.
There has been an interesting discussion on this topic on reddit recently.
Take TCS, they have 50K java programmers- they can't afford to retrain
them.
It is not so much the effort involved to retrain
in a particular programming language as it is to change the prevelant
culture. I am curious to see how they change and adapt,
as I am skeptical that the cost difference
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Kiran Jonnalagaddaj...@pobox.com wrote:
I will add my little theory to this discussion.
Hahahaha :D
Nice writeup.
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Kiran Jonnalagaddaj...@pobox.com wrote:
2009/6/12 Srijayanth Sridhar srijaya...@gmail.com:
I don't doubt that its a global phenomenon, however, I am still curious
about the reasons for its prevalence out here.
I will add my little theory to this discussion.
Good points, but what I am most curious about is why this phenomenon is so
prevalent in the Indian dev community and not as pervasive elsewhere. The
ruby community is rife with apt examples. The average Indian developer will
pop up and demand answers for a really silly Rails question or something.
Depends upon the focus of the thread as well right? I mean a lot of threads,
like this one, will have an overwhelming prevalence of Indian people. Seems
to me that labeling the average Indian developer that way just might be a
tad unfair.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Srijayanth Sridhar
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Pradeep Gowdaprad...@btbytes.com wrote:
(...) it might still be worth answering them,
In light of this conversation's topic, we certainly wouldn't
spoon-feed them, would we?
at the same time also
pointing them to a net etiquette
link [2].
[2]
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Sridhar
Ratnakumarsridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Now do you think a person who is lazy to type a few characters in an
Internet search engine (as evidenced by Is there any tutorial. Should
we include any library?) would be interested at all in reading a
60,000
On Friday 12 June 2009 12:34:18 Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
wrt my earlier question, the following blog is a nice writeup. I realize
its Ruby, but the general principles of posting on a newsgroup/forum apply.
http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/posts/jamesbritt/and_your_Mom_too.html
including not
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Srijayanth
Sridharsrijaya...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
I've come to lament the factory like nature of IT in India. People learn
extremely minimal subset of specialized skills. I've had chaps who can't see
beyond .NET or Java very simply because these are industry
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote:
On Friday 12 June 2009 12:34:18 Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
wrt my earlier question, the following blog is a nice writeup. I realize
its Ruby, but the general principles of posting on a newsgroup/forum
apply.
On Friday 12 June 2009 13:59:09 Roshan Mathews wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Sriram Narayanansriram...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've concluded that a vast number of our developers are actually
incompetent, and also clueless on how to self-study and to conduct a
search. Perhaps our
the problem is that our education systems teaches tools and not concepts.
And
industry also wants people who can use tools and cannot think for
themselves.
Remember that most of our so-called IT industry does not produce software,
but
just writes code.
While I agree that the problem lies
As we speak:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/339092
Jayanth
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Srijayanth Sridhar srijaya...@gmail.comwrote:
the problem is that our education systems teaches tools and not concepts.
And
industry also wants people who can use tools
Okay, that was really hilarious. But I still believe the issue is not
confined to Indian developers but *stupid* developers from everywhere. Maybe
the sheer size of the software industry in India as well as the nature of a
lot of work done in that industry creates a lot of people who want instant
*not bothering
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Mandar Gokhale stallo...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, that was really hilarious. But I still believe the issue is not
confined to Indian developers but *stupid* developers from everywhere. Maybe
the sheer size of the software industry in India as well as the nature
I've considered this argument of a large working population being the
reason for this. However this argument doesn't hold up because, if this
supposition were true, then what would also be true is that the number of
posts by people in the Indian developer community would be high. I find,
Mandar Gokhale wrote:
Okay, that was really hilarious. But I still believe the issue is not
confined to Indian developers but *stupid* developers from everywhere.
It definitely is not confined to Indian developers - I see it from
developers in the United States as well. I'd say it's more from
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jeff Rush j...@taupro.com wrote:
Mandar Gokhale wrote:
Okay, that was really hilarious. But I still believe the issue is not
confined to Indian developers but *stupid* developers from everywhere.
It definitely is not confined to Indian developers - I see it
Anyway, this kind of questions are normally seen with devs who are
just starting off and doesn't have either the curiosity or the time to
devote some time to look at the issues, before asking for help.
Most of the time they can be correct with a gentle nudge in the righ
direction or
I've considered this argument of a large working population being the
reason
for this. However this argument doesn't hold up because, if this
supposition
were true, then what would also be true is that the number of posts by
people in the Indian developer community would be high. I find,
I have worked with many people who are very reluctant to post to a forum
asking for help. They will spend a whole day trying to figure out the
issue all by themselves. It became so bad that we had to institute a 30
minutes rule (if you can't solve an issue in 30 minutes - seek help) to
make
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:01, Pradeep Gowdaprad...@btbytes.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Sridhar
Ratnakumarsridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I often think the best way to handle such posters is to momentarily
divert the topic of the conversation to their own interest-level,
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:43 AM, vidv...@svaksha.com wrote:
hmm kindly define real name[0], real identity with respect to
the online world. If the owner of swtest...@gmail.com had used
Manmohan Singh or Rita Rai instead of testing123 test, would you
trust them more ?
[0] i've been using
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Pradeep Gowda prad...@btbytes.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:43 AM, vidv...@svaksha.com wrote:
hmm kindly define real name[0], real identity with respect to
the online world. If the owner of swtest...@gmail.com had used
Manmohan Singh or Rita Rai
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Srijayanth Sridhar srijaya...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Pradeep Gowda prad...@btbytes.comwrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:43 AM, vidv...@svaksha.com wrote:
Great discussion... the next time someone posts a non-curious
question
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Srijayanth Sridharsrijaya...@gmail.com wrote:
Names are irrelevant on the internet, so I agree with both of you in a
certain way.
Well, there is one way to be relevant in programming circles,
which is often condensed to -- show your code or GTFO.
Ruby
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Pradeep Gowdaprad...@btbytes.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Srijayanth Sridharsrijaya...@gmail.com
wrote:
Names are irrelevant on the internet, so I agree with both of you in a
certain way.
Well, there is one way to be relevant in programming
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Sridhar
Ratnakumarsridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Now do you think a person who is lazy to type a few characters in an
Internet search engine (as evidenced by Is there any tutorial. Should
we include any library?) would be interested at all in reading a
60,000
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:12, Pradeep Gowdaprad...@btbytes.com wrote:
While a name like Manmohan Singh Ph.D(oxford econ) may be treated
with suspicion, I see no problem
with a name like Rita Rai. I do not care for real names, as long as
the nick you use is acts as smart you are in real life.
2009/6/12 Srijayanth Sridhar srijaya...@gmail.com:
As we speak:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/339092
Jayanth
Don't blame the poor chap here. Blame microsoft for that cryptic error message.
'nmake' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/6/12 Srijayanth Sridhar srijaya...@gmail.com:
As we speak:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/339092
Jayanth
Don't blame the poor chap here. Blame microsoft for that cryptic
On Friday 12 June 2009 14:30:57 Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
What are your experiences as a person from a small town? My question is
more directed towards your 'programming culture' now vis-a-vis to your
programming culture from your small town?
I am both 'from' and mostly 'in' a small town. My
On Friday 12 June 2009 19:14:36 Pradeep Gowda wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Sridhar
Ratnakumarsridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Now do you think a person who is lazy to type a few characters in an
Internet search engine (as evidenced by Is there any tutorial. Should
we include any
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalveslaw...@au-kbc.org wrote:
On Friday 12 June 2009 14:30:57 Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
What are your experiences as a person from a small town? My question is
more directed towards your 'programming culture' now vis-a-vis to your
programming
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Srijayanth Sridharsrijaya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
My name is Jayanth. I am new to BangPypers and Python in general. I have
been working on Ruby however so I am not lost or anything.
I wanted to point out that on ruby-lang several posters from India seem to
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Sridhar
Ratnakumarsridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Srijayanth Sridharsrijaya...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't know the reasons either, but would like to know too.
I often think the best way to handle such posters is to momentarily
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