Hello, Benjamin.
Markus is correct, and I am not aware of any new research that would
contradict what Lundberg says about the development on the 13-course lute.
Tum Crawford has written about the style of composition changed when going
from 11 to rider to swan. The swan pieces are much
Dear all,
For further discussion, please see the Weiss page at:
http://www.slweiss.com/
Go to Literature, then London unveiled. There is a well written article by
Michael Cardin, and he does address the rider vs swan neck issue. He has a
great deal of excellent information.
Not only does
Dear Benjaming,
BTW - I read today in our newspaper that Picasso very often used the
pictures of others to copy and work on them. So he never claimed to be
creative in a way to get everything out of himself.
What does that have to do with Weiss?
Some people pointed out regarding the
Hi Theo,
you can play many Weiss pieces on an 11 course lute - and many of them
had been intended for it. The later ones might be sometimes a little bit
tricky, as the added basses give more freedom for the leading voices.
But on the other side: If some guitarist can play these pieces on 6
In my book The Lute in Europe I mention as early swan neck lute
types the Angéliques of Tielke and Fleischer (1680? the instrument in
Zürich who was converted to a 13c. baroque lute; 1704 the Angélique
in Schwerin - picture in my book on p. 41; the Fleischer was built in
1695/1700). The
Indeed Martin - and what other reason for the invention of the 13
course German theorboed lute than that 18th C players desired to retain
the sound of plain gut but also wished for rather more
sustain/power possible with the longer (and thinner) basses.
Martyn
--- On Sat,
Swan necks for continuo seems reasonable IMHO. More omph for the bass
register is the only advantage of that type as far as I can see.
Mathias
Markus Lutz mar...@gmlutz.de schrieb:
Hi Theo,
you can play many Weiss pieces on an 11 course lute - and many of them
had been intended for it. The
Dear Martin,
Thanks for your message. See below
2009/1/10 Martin Shepherd [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk
Dear All,
Just a note on the strings issue: it is a mistake to assume that
just because wound strings were available, lutenists used them.
Some kind of wound
- Original Message
In fact they are easier to be played. More basses - more problems with the
thumb ;-). And there is plenty of good music for it (beside French music
Austrian, Bohemian, German etc.).
Best regards
Markus
I disagree with this-I have always contended that more
Dear Mimmo,
Grazie molto! La sua risposta e molto interessante.
My comments are below yours, in green:
Mimmo Peruffo wrote:
Hi Martin,
I do prefere to answer you directly in red colour.
Martin Shepherd ha scritto:
Dear All,
Just a note on the strings issue: it is a mistake to assume
--- Benjamin Narvey luthi...@gmail.com wrote:
But presumably wound strings were being used for
at least the 12th and
13th courses of the rider lutes? Although,
perhaps these were loaded
strings. At any rate, plain gut could not
possibly achieve those
pitches at such a short
Dale,
Excuse me, please, but what is 'RPGR' ?
On 2009-01-11, at 02:01, Dale Young wrote:
Let's go through pictures and writings about who was playing which
lute when and see if we can come to any conclusion why. Maybe a
musical style favoured one instrument over the other.Maybe they
were
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