Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-21 Thread Ronan Waide
On February 21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (sorry I can't find the message for credit purposes) responded with the following for .emacs, which works: (unload-feature 'bbdb-autoloads t) (bbdb-initialize) Good stuff. Thankfully, we've gotten rid of the problem for the next BBDB release, but

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-21 Thread David S. Goldberg
Okay, this is officially irritating me. 1. Why is xemacs telling me that bbdb-autoloads is already loaded, when I have nothing to load it in my .emacs? 2. Why is it a fatal error to load bbdb-autoloads twice? If this is a "my version vs. your version issue, wouldn't it be more sensible

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-18 Thread Ronan Waide
On February 18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Shouldn't you be able to `require' rather that `load' it? Daniel That appears to work, yes. Going into CVS shortly. Waider. Along with a buncha other stuff, whee! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me. I really need to

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-17 Thread Adrian Aichner
"Ronan" == Ronan Waide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronan Xemacs at this point barfs; if I do a -debug-init, the Ronan stack trace reveals that it's barfing on the *first line* Ronan of my .bbdb, which is calling bbdb-initialize. I don't have Ronan a require or anything else. Are

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-17 Thread Alex Schroeder
Ronan Waide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yah; it's the gratuituous differences that annoy me. Like overlays vs. extents, for example, and the completely incompatible menuing systems. Yaaahrg! I've written layers to handle both two or three times and I'm getting s tired! But back to this

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-17 Thread Jack Twilley
"Alex" == Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronan Yah; it's the gratuituous differences that annoy me. Like Ronan overlays vs. extents, for example, and the completely Ronan incompatible menuing systems. Alex Yaaahrg! I've written layers to handle both two or three times Alex and I'm

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-17 Thread Ronan Waide
On February 17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: "Alex" == Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then why doesn't someone write two really good layers -- one to XEmacsify FSF code, and one to FSFify XEmacs code -- and save us all the trouble? Have a look at sysdep.el (?) as included in w3 the

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-17 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Ronan Waide wrote: On February 17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think that it should be possible to load and reload all lisp files to you heart's content. Therefore I suggest you remove it and see wether it breaks. My guess is, nothing breaks. The check is inserted by

xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-16 Thread Ronan Waide
Okay, this is officially irritating me. 1. Why is xemacs telling me that bbdb-autoloads is already loaded, when I have nothing to load it in my .emacs? 2. Why is it a fatal error to load bbdb-autoloads twice? If this is a "my version vs. your version issue, wouldn't it be more sensible

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Ronan Waide wrote: Okay, this is officially irritating me. 1. Why is xemacs telling me that bbdb-autoloads is already loaded, when I have nothing to load it in my .emacs? If you have the package installed, it's probably done by the packaging system to ensure that the

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-16 Thread Ronan Waide
On February 17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you have the package installed, it's probably done by the packaging system to ensure that the autoload functions are available. Packages are designed to be available (autoloads only) when they are installed, IIRC. Okay; that's not solving the

Re: xemacs and autoloads

2001-02-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Ronan Waide wrote: On February 17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] Oh dear. I've just realised what the problem is. bbdb-initialize does (load "bbdb-autoloads"), IIRC. D'oh. I'm leaving the above text to show you that I am an idiot who misses the obvious from time to