Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging
On Wed Jan 19 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: I'd be OK with providing BBDB3 in a beta form through elpa.gnu.org. As long as the version string states it clearly, which it will. You are likely to get plenty of feedback. Feedback is always appreciated! A rewrite is the worst case, where you can't find the original contributor or they are not willing to assign the copyright to the FSF. Some pieces of BBDB in their original form are rather old. So I exepct that tracking down the original contributor can be more difficult. (CC to Chong Yidong in case he wants to comment) My main question is the legal meaning of rewrite. (Almost all code has been rewritten in one or the other way.) If BBDB3 is written by you then you have the copyright AFAIK. We need to find the code that you did not write and track down the authors. Can you do the first part? I can try to make a list of things that I have changed less. By the way, I already passed on the copyright to FSF for my general contributions to GNU Emacs. Is this enough here? I'll be happy to do this once more. RW ...For the new code I have not yet found anybody who might want to RW help with it. In that sense, I can speak here without further RW consultation for all (current) BBDB developpers. That's wonderful. Yes and no :-) Anybodies help is greatly appreciated... Thank you for working on this functionality and I look foward to helping you test and document it. ...including yours. Roland -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:17:27 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Wed Jan 19 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: A rewrite is the worst case, where you can't find the original contributor or they are not willing to assign the copyright to the FSF. RW Some pieces of BBDB in their original form are rather old. So I RW exepct that tracking down the original contributor can be more RW difficult. Sure, I figured that might be the case. Fortunately it only has to be done once :) Let me know when you've figured out what portions and authors need to be tracked down. I'll work with Chong Yidong and you to do it. RW By the way, I already passed on the copyright to FSF for my RW general contributions to GNU Emacs. Is this enough here? RW I'll be happy to do this once more. I think it's enough, it's what I've done too. Ted -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging
I'd be OK with providing BBDB3 in a beta form through elpa.gnu.org. As long as the version string states it clearly, which it will. You are likely to get plenty of feedback. Feedback is always appreciated! Talking about feedback: is there some warning/discussion about the change of format somewhere? I'm very happy with your BBDB3 overall, but the change of format is rather inconvenient (I share my bbdb file among several machines and would prefer to not have to upgrade them all at the same time). A rewrite is the worst case, where you can't find the original contributor or they are not willing to assign the copyright to the FSF. Some pieces of BBDB in their original form are rather old. So I exepct that tracking down the original contributor can be more difficult. AFAICT the main problem will be that Jamie is known for refusing to sign any copyright assignment for the FSF, and he's the original author, so any code of his that survived will need a rewrite. My main question is the legal meaning of rewrite. (Almost all code has been rewritten in one or the other way.) If the similarity is due to the API (e.g. compatibility with user's custom settings will force you to share variable names), I think that such similarity is OK, but otherwise, the code should look sufficiently different that the original author can't say look they took my code. By the way, I already passed on the copyright to FSF for my general contributions to GNU Emacs. Is this enough here? I'll be happy to do this once more. For your own code, AFAIK your general assignment can be sufficient under the condition that you send an email to ass...@gnu.org telling them that you consider this code to be covered by your assignment (this is because bbdb is not part of Emacs). That's wonderful. Yes and no :-) Hopefully your BBDB revival (and inclusion in the FSF's ELPA) will bring new blood. E.g. I've bumped into a few issues in the past but, for lack of a place where to report them, I never bothered to send a patch. Stefan -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
whenever I expand a bbdb name at To:, trailing whitespace gets added when using the latest emacs
Whenever I expand a bbdb name at To:, trailing whitespace gets added when using the latest emacs. -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: whenever I expand a bbdb name at To:, trailing whitespace gets added when using the latest emacs
Whenever I expand a bbdb name at To:, trailing whitespace gets added when using the latest emacs. It's probably the result of a change I made in message.el's completion code. I've seen a few other reports about it, but I can't reproduce it. Could you give me more details: which version of BBDB are you running, and which specific keys do you hit (and where) in order to cause the expansion? Stefan -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
