Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
Hi, On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 07:41:02PM -0500, Larry Finger wrote: On 03/15/2010 06:20 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:54:23PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: when the broadcom-sta driver didn't compile with 2.6.33 I decided to give b43 a new try. I have a Lenovo Ideapad S12, which has a BCM4312 with LP Phy (14e4:4315). I am using Debian unstable. When I load the module, a new interface wlan0 appears, but iwlist scan says Interface doesn't support scanning. Looks like the device isn't properly initialized. The issue was that CRDA is not yet in Debian, and thus the kernel needs to have CONFIG_WIRELESS_OLD_REGULATORY=y. With this setting, the interface can scan. There should be a clearer error message about this. I feel that Debian should get their act together. The old regulatory method was left in the kernel for several cycles so that the distros could adapt. Only Debian failed to do so. Debian has a severe manpower problem in many fields. However, the interface doesn't work. Most prominent error is: Mar 15 18:27:12 feather kernel: [ 505.012549] b43-phy0 ERROR: PHY transmission error (this is with he chip forced to PIO). Are there lots of PHY Transmission errors, os just a few? We have never understood why these errors occur in the firmware. grep ERROR: PHY syslog | wc -l 10 What version are you using? Mar 15 18:27:45 feather kernel: [ 538.208462] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01 00:50:23) I don't have the system in question at hand now and therefore cannot check where the actual file is pulled from, but I clearly remember building b43-firmwarecutter from the VCS and using it on the exact version of the broadcom driver package mentioned in the instructions. I'll check back later today, probably. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
Hi, On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:54:23PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: when the broadcom-sta driver didn't compile with 2.6.33 I decided to give b43 a new try. I have a Lenovo Ideapad S12, which has a BCM4312 with LP Phy (14e4:4315). I am using Debian unstable. When I load the module, a new interface wlan0 appears, but iwlist scan says Interface doesn't support scanning. Looks like the device isn't properly initialized. The issue was that CRDA is not yet in Debian, and thus the kernel needs to have CONFIG_WIRELESS_OLD_REGULATORY=y. With this setting, the interface can scan. There should be a clearer error message about this. However, the interface doesn't work. Most prominent error is: Mar 15 18:27:12 feather kernel: [ 505.012549] b43-phy0 ERROR: PHY transmission error (this is with he chip forced to PIO). Any ideas about this? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On 03/15/2010 06:20 PM, Marc Haber wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:54:23PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: when the broadcom-sta driver didn't compile with 2.6.33 I decided to give b43 a new try. I have a Lenovo Ideapad S12, which has a BCM4312 with LP Phy (14e4:4315). I am using Debian unstable. When I load the module, a new interface wlan0 appears, but iwlist scan says Interface doesn't support scanning. Looks like the device isn't properly initialized. The issue was that CRDA is not yet in Debian, and thus the kernel needs to have CONFIG_WIRELESS_OLD_REGULATORY=y. With this setting, the interface can scan. There should be a clearer error message about this. I feel that Debian should get their act together. The old regulatory method was left in the kernel for several cycles so that the distros could adapt. Only Debian failed to do so. However, the interface doesn't work. Most prominent error is: Mar 15 18:27:12 feather kernel: [ 505.012549] b43-phy0 ERROR: PHY transmission error (this is with he chip forced to PIO). Are there lots of PHY Transmission errors, os just a few? We have never understood why these errors occur in the firmware. What version are you using? Larry ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
Hi Larry, On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:57:57AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: On 03/06/2010 04:07 AM, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:54:24PM +, Chris Vine wrote: You can get the Ideapad to work by forcing use of the PIO however. How exactly do I do this? I remember trying by adding some options to /etc/modprobe.d/b43, but the module didn't seem to understand this. I don't have the ideapad at hand at the moment, so I cannot look, but I can try tonight. Unless you are getting the DMA error, choosing PIO will not help. If you are getting that error, it will say so in the dmesg output. I have looked again, and the fatal DMA error is indeed there. It suggested setting CONFIG_B43_FORCE_PIO=y, which I did despite of the very clear warnings given in the make menuconfig help. However, the DMA error has vanished, but my B43 still says that the interface doesn't support scanning. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Marc Haber mh+bcm43xx-...@zugschlus.de wrote: Hi Larry, On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:57:57AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: On 03/06/2010 04:07 AM, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:54:24PM +, Chris Vine wrote: You can get the Ideapad to work by forcing use of the PIO however. How exactly do I do this? I remember trying by adding some options to /etc/modprobe.d/b43, but the module didn't seem to understand this. I don't have the ideapad at hand at the moment, so I cannot look, but I can try tonight. Unless you are getting the DMA error, choosing PIO will not help. If you are getting that error, it will say so in the dmesg output. I have looked again, and the fatal DMA error is indeed there. It suggested setting CONFIG_B43_FORCE_PIO=y, which I did despite of the very clear warnings given in the make menuconfig help. However, the DMA error has vanished, but my B43 still says that the interface doesn't support scanning. That message sounds like you are using iwlist to scan - try iw instead. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things. Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev -- Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-) ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
2010/3/8 Marc Haber mh+bcm43xx-d...@zugschlus.de: Hi, On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:54:44PM +0100, Gábor Stefanik wrote: That message sounds like you are using iwlist to scan - try iw instead. Yes, I am using iwlist. Has this changed? Have the tools like wicd and/or network-manager already adapted to use the new tools/API? AFAIK not, but iw gives more meaningful error messages in case of a failure. On the box that I am currently using (which has a ipw2200, oh wonderful old times), iw list returns nl80211 not found. Which option is my kernel missing? Probably nothing - rather, your libnl is too old (older than 1.0-pre8). However, you can't use iw with ipw2200 - it only supports drivers that use cfg80211. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things. Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 -- Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-) ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
Hello Marc Haber wrote: Hi, when the broadcom-sta driver didn't compile with 2.6.33 I decided to give b43 a new try. I have a Lenovo Ideapad S12, which has a BCM4312 with LP Phy (14e4:4315). I am using Debian unstable. When I load the module, a new interface wlan0 appears, but iwlist scan says Interface doesn't support scanning. Looks like the device isn't properly initialized. Silly question, but did you try to up (ifconfig wlan0 up) the interface before scanning? My b43 won't allow scanning either unless it is upped. i don't know if this behavior is intended (poke to the list) but it's not quite a problem. - William ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On 03/04/2010 12:49 PM, William Bourque wrote: Hello Marc Haber wrote: Hi, when the broadcom-sta driver didn't compile with 2.6.33 I decided to give b43 a new try. I have a Lenovo Ideapad S12, which has a BCM4312 with LP Phy (14e4:4315). I am using Debian unstable. When I load the module, a new interface wlan0 appears, but iwlist scan says Interface doesn't support scanning. Looks like the device isn't properly initialized. Silly question, but did you try to up (ifconfig wlan0 up) the interface before scanning? My b43 won't allow scanning either unless it is upped. i don't know if this behavior is intended (poke to the list) but it's not quite a problem. If you control the device with NetworkManager, it will bring it up. If you are controlling it manually, then either an explicit ifup is required, or it is set implicitly in the control file. That is distro dependent. For openSUSE, that file is /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0 where there is a line that says STARTMODE='XX', where XX is auto, ifplugd, manual, or off. Larry ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:16:26PM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: CRDA is the user-space implementation of the regulatory database. What will the b43 driver do without a CRDA user-space daemon? It's not yet in Debian (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=536502). Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:49:14PM -0500, William Bourque wrote: Silly question, but did you try to up (ifconfig wlan0 up) the interface before scanning? I tried ip link set dev wlan0 up, which gave me a few more dmesg lines: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode15.fw b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0initvals15.fw b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0bsinitvals15.fw b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.108 (2008-07-01 00.50:23) ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready iwlist scan wlan0 still says 'doesn't support scanning Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On 03/04/2010 03:46 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:16:26PM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: CRDA is the user-space implementation of the regulatory database. What will the b43 driver do without a CRDA user-space daemon? It's not yet in Debian (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=536502). I'm not an expert on the regulatory stuff, but if you do not have a list of allowed frequencies listed as I posted, then I think that none are allowed. There was compatibility code kept in the kernel for several cycles so that even the slowest distros could get prepared. Perhaps the devs underestimated Debian. Your best approach is to go to http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Regulatory/CRDA, get and build a copy. Larry ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:46:10 +0100 Marc Haber mh+bcm43xx-...@zugschlus.de wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:16:26PM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: CRDA is the user-space implementation of the regulatory database. What will the b43 driver do without a CRDA user-space daemon? It's not yet in Debian (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=536502). b43 works perfectly fine with my 4318 on my Debian Sid system, without CRDA installed. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On 03/04/2010 04:53 PM, Celejar wrote: b43 works perfectly fine with my 4318 on my Debian Sid system, without CRDA installed. What kernel version is in Sid? Larry ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:11:06 -0600 Larry Finger larry.fin...@lwfinger.net wrote: On 03/04/2010 04:53 PM, Celejar wrote: b43 works perfectly fine with my 4318 on my Debian Sid system, without CRDA installed. What kernel version is in Sid? Currently some version of 2.6.32. I should have noted that I actually usually run self-built vanilla ones (from upstream mainline), but I'm pretty sure that b43 works even when I use the Debian packaged ones from the repos. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Marc Haber mh+bcm43xx-...@zugschlus.de wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:49:14PM -0500, William Bourque wrote: Silly question, but did you try to up (ifconfig wlan0 up) the interface before scanning? I tried ip link set dev wlan0 up, which gave me a few more dmesg lines: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode15.fw b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0initvals15.fw b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0bsinitvals15.fw b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.108 (2008-07-01 00.50:23) ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready iwlist scan wlan0 still says 'doesn't support scanning Is your kernel compiled with WEXT scanning support? AFAIK it is deprecated in 2.6.33 in favor of nl80211 (i.e. iw dev wlan0 scan), so it is not auto-selected. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things. Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev -- Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-) ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On 03/04/2010 05:33 PM, Celejar wrote: Currently some version of 2.6.32. I should have noted that I actually usually run self-built vanilla ones (from upstream mainline), but I'm pretty sure that b43 works even when I use the Debian packaged ones from the repos. It may fail with 2.6.33. ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
Re: BCM4312 (14e4:4315) in Lenovo Ideapad S12 cannot scan with 2.6.33
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:52:15 -0600 Larry Finger larry.fin...@lwfinger.net wrote: On 03/04/2010 05:33 PM, Celejar wrote: Currently some version of 2.6.32. I should have noted that I actually usually run self-built vanilla ones (from upstream mainline), but I'm pretty sure that b43 works even when I use the Debian packaged ones from the repos. It may fail with 2.6.33. I'm currently using .33, and it works fine. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator ___ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
