OT: Update - Canberra Wildfire

2003-01-19 Thread Roger Pye
8.30pm Sunday

A semblance of normality. Garbage (wheelie) bins out the front of houses 
all down the street for the regular collection tomorrow, if it happens. 
Temp outside about 22, very welcome cool wind from the east/southeast, 
the smoke blanket has cleared which protected us from the high temps 
forecast for today so well that the dreaded west/northwesterlys did not 
develop, and we even managed to make it up to a restaurant (not far 
away) for dinner.

But the water-bombing choppers are still flying overhead every 30 
minutes or so to refill at the lake not far away and go on back to dump 
their loads on smoking smouldering fire-ravaged areas. The firebreak 
making continues, now with teams of five bulldozers running side-by-side 
converting enormous swathes of grass and bushland into bare dirt. For 
tomorrow high temps are forecast again (but not as high as first feared, 
35 instead of 39) and winds.

Four confirmed dead now, no details of the last one. Temporary power 
restored to some of the shattered and other suburbs. Traffic lights 
still out of action in most areas of the south side of the city. 
Residents allowed to return to Holt and Duffy and Chapman for short 
periods under a checkpoint/registration system.

Unfortunately a lot of unfair criticism surfacing now about the apparent 
unpreparedness of the emergency and fire services. Except they weren't - 
what they were was out on the far flung flanks trying to keep the fires 
contained in the Namadgi National Park, and scattered across rural areas 
to protect property. When the fires broke through, they roared across 
those open areas of grassland driven by superheated winds gusting to 
over 70 kms an hour, flames rising to over one hundred metres. No one 
could get back in time to prevent them reaching the suburbs at such 
speeds and with such power that trees literally exploded into fireballs 
igniting everything around, dry or not, houses, sheds, garages, cars, 
power poles, even green lawns. Indeed no way the flames could have been 
stopped at all.

In fact the people in the emergency services have done - are still doing 
- a magnificent job. Many have lost houses and property but they are 
still out there to try and prevent a recurrence tomorrow or later.

God bless them - and you for all your thoughts and support

roger




Re: Canberra Wildfire

2003-01-19 Thread Roger Pye
Deborah Byron wrote:


Dear Roger--My thoughts and prayers are with you and all there who have
suffered such shocking losses (the poor terrified wild animals as
well).  What do the devas have to tell us in times like these?  Was
there no warning?


The speed of advance cancelled out all warnings, sentient and spiritual. 
Not even devas can predict everything. But - at 3pm yesterday afternoon 
my wife Robin was on our tile roof cleaning out  the gutters (which I 
couldn't do because I can't handle heights any more) and blocking the 
downpipes with rags so we could fill the gutters with water. The wind 
was at gusty gale force and I was up a ladder panic-stricken, my heart 
in my mouth, thinking of the danger she was in. Then the devas came in 
to me and quietened me down - we have four here - and between us we 
fashioned a globe of protective energy around her. Which worked.

I have a lot of time for the devas, have had ever since I first met them 
in this life about a year ago at Dalgety, even though (or probably 
because) they have an immense advantage over me. They've been around a 
long, long time. We would all do well to listen to them more, and more 
carefully.

Thanks, roger



Dr. Doug Rokke

2003-01-19 Thread Merla Barberie
I received a tape of Dr. Doug Rokke speaking about his experiences in
the Gulf War.  It is unspeakably shocking.  I put his name and depleted
uranium munitions into Goggle and got a lot of confirming documents.
He says there are 1-2,000 of such munitions ready to be deployed in the
2003 Iraq War which will make Iraq lethally radioactive for eternity.
He said that 10,000 U.S. troops were dead and 221,000 on permanent
disability--from radiation, from the Gulf War in 1990-1, not to mention
non-combatants, and that the government would not acknowledge any of
this or give the 24 hr medical attention that is required in cases like
this to our own troops.  They used solid U-238 3/4x18 tank shells that
exploded into spalling, the equivalent of burning BBs--that also
contained nuclear waste, Plutonium, Neptunium, from Padukah, KY,  Oak
Ridge, TN and Portsmuth OH.  Also in cruise missles, land mines, 3/4 lb
bombs dropped by Warthogs.  Read document Los Alamos memorandum which
was also on the net.





FW: [globalnews] The Golden Verses of Pythagoras

2003-01-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] The Golden Verses of Pythagoras




HIEROS LOGOS 

In the first place revere the Immortal Gods as they are 
established and ordained by the Law. 

Reverence the Oath. In the next place revere the Heroes 
who are full of goodness and light. 

Honour likewise the Terrestrial Daimons by rendering them 
the worship lawfully due to them.

Honour likewise thy father and thy mother, and thy nearest 
relations. 

Of all the rest of mankind, make him thy friend who distinguishes 
himself by his virtue. Always give ear to his mild exhortations, and 
take example from his virtuous and useful actions. Refrain, as far as 
you can, from spurning thy friend for a slight fault, for power 
surrounds necessity. 

Know that all these things are as I have told thee. 

Accustom thyself to surmount and vanquish these passions: First, 
gluttony, sloth, lust and anger. Never commit any shameful actions, 
neither with others nor in private with thyself. 

Above all things, respect thyself. 

In the next place, observe Justice in thy actions and in thy 
words; and accustom not thyself to behave thyself in anything without 
rule and without reason. 

Always make this reflection, that it is ordained by Destiny for 
all men to die; and that the goods of fortune are uncertain. As they 
may be acquired, they may likewise be lost. 

Concerning all the calamities that men suffer by Divine Fortune, 
support with patience thy lot, be what it will, and never repine at 
it, but endeavour what thou canst to remedy it, and consider that Fate 
does not send the greatest portion of these misfortunes to good men. 

There are amongst men several sorts of reasonings, good and bad. 
Admire them not too easily and reject them not neither, but if any 
falsehoods be advanced, give way with mildness and arm thyself with 
patience. 

Observe well, on every occasion, what I am going to tell thee: 
Let no man either by his words, or by his actions, ever seduce thee, 
nor entice thee to say or to do what is not profitable for thee. 

Consult and deliberate before thou act, that thou may'st not 
commit foolish actions, for it is the part of a miserable man to speak 
and to act without reflection. 

But do that which will not afflict thee afterwards, nor oblige 
thee to repentance. 

Never do anything which thou dost not understand; but learn all 
thou oughtest to know, and by that means thou wilt lead a very 
pleasant life. 

In no wise neglect the health of thy body; but give it food and 
drink in due measure, and also the exercise of which it has need. By 
measure, I mean what will not incommode thee. 

Accustom thyself to a way of living that is neat and decent, 
without luxury. Avoid all things that will occasion envy, and be not 
expensive out of season, like one who knows not what is decent and 
honourable. 

Be neither covetous nor niggardly. A due measure is excellent in 
these things! 

Do only the things that cannot hurt thee, and deliberate before 
thou doest them. 

Never suffer sleep to close thy eyelids after thy going to bed, 
till thou hast thrice reviewed all thy actions of the day: Wherein 
have I done amiss? What have I done? What have I omitted that I ought 
to have done? 

If in this examination thou find that thou hast done amiss, 
reprimand thyself severely for it; and if thou hast done any good, 
rejoice. 

Practise thoroughly all these things; meditate on them well; thou 
oughtest to love them with all thy heart. It is they that will put 
thee in the way of Divine Virtue. 

I swear it by Him who has transmitted into our souls the Sacred 
Tetraktys, the Source of Nature, whose course is eternal. 

Never set thy hand to the work, till thou hast first prayed the 
Gods to accomplish what thou art going to begin. 

When thou hast made this habit familiar to thee, thou wilt know 
the constitution of the Immortal Gods and of men; even how far the 
different Beings extend, and what contains and binds them together. 

Thou shalt likewise know, in accord with Cosmic Order, that the 
nature of this Universe is in all things alike, so that thou shalt not 
hope what thou oughtest not to hope; and nothing in this world shall 
be hid from thee. 

Thou wilt likewise know that men draw upon themselves their own 
misfortunes, voluntarily and of their own free choice. 

Wretches that they are! They neither see nor understand that 
their good is near them. There are very few of them who know how to 
deliver themselves out of their misfortunes. 

Such is the Fate that blinds mankind and takes away his senses. 
Like huge cylinders, they roll to and fro, always oppressed by ills 
without number; for fatal contention, which is innate in them, 
pursues them everywhere, tosses them up and down, nor do they 
perceive it. 

Instead of provoking and stirring it up, they ought by yielding 
to avert it. 

Great Jupiter, Father of men, you would deliver them all from the 
evils that oppress them, if you would show them what is the Daimon 
of 

FW: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, andelsewhere a horrendous warcrime

2003-01-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, and elsewhere a horrendous warcrime



Merla, heres a copy of his address:

-

The San Francisco Times
When all the news is not fit to print


Dr. Doug Rokke's address on Depleted Uranium

Vieques Libre - http://www.viequeslibre.org

The following is a copy of the Address given by Dr. Doug Rokke, former head of the Pentagon's Depleted Uranium Project, at the National Vietnam and Gulf War Veterans Coalition 17th Annual Leadership Breakfast, at the U.S. Senate Caucus Room on November 10, 2000. Adrian Cronauer was Master of Ceremonies.

Distinguished Members of Congress, Coalition Leaders, Fellow Warriors, and Guests-- It is a distinct honor to address you today. During the Gulf War I was the U.S. Army health physicist assigned to 12th Preventive Medicine AM theater command staff and the 3rd U.S. Army Medical Command headquarters. I was recalled to active duty 20 years after serving in Vietnam, from my research job with the University of Illinois Physics Department and sent to the Gulf to ensure that all military and civilian personnel were prepared for the anticipated nuclear, biological, chemical, and environmental exposures. I also was assigned to two equally vital special operations teams: Bauers Raiders and the Depleted Uranium Assessment team.

The preparations for war take many forms. Infantry soldiers learn and practice their combat skills, truck drivers practice maneuvering their rigs to make sure they can deliver supplies, and medical personnel prepare to treat the expected combat casualties. Ideally, preparations are driven by intelligence reports. However as the recent bombing of the U.S.S. Cole shows commanders may ignore intelligence information and not protect either their personnel or equipment. Prior to the start of Operation Desert Storm military intelligence reports and threats issued by President Saddam Hussein suggested that nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare and environmental hazards (NBC-E) would be employed to win battles.

As we prepared for the battle in the Deserts of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Iraq, medical and combat unit commanders realized that medical personnel must be able to provide emergency medical care to conserve the fighting strength in an NBC-E environment. This required an assessment of medical capabilities. Four deficiencies were identified. First, an assessment of existing emergency medical response capabilities in the staging areas located within Saudi Arabia revealed the need to respond to medical emergencies resulting from combat to disease and non-battle injuries (DNBI). Second, an assessment of medical personnel arriving in Southwest Asia verified that most of them did not have the knowledge, skills, and attitudes needed to provide medical care for the expected nuclear, biological, chemical, and environmental (NBC-E) casualties much less the conventional weapons casualties. Third, the we verified that that most operations personnel needed a NBC-E defense refresher course that was specifically designed for verified threats. Fourth, we needed to design and construct decontamination facilities, prepare standard decontamination procedures, and train personnel to provide immediate personnel and equipment decontamination. Consequently, Bauer's Raiders, the 3d U.S. Army Medical Command theater NBC-E special operations planning and teaching team was formed. Each team member had prior combat experience and was a qualified medical and NBC-E instructor. This team also designed and supervised the construction of the NBC decontamination facilities and provided operations assistance throughout the echelons above corps, corps, and coalition forces. Since 1991 numerous Department of Defense reports have stated that medical and tactical commanders were unaware of the probable NBC-E exposures and never told about the medical and environmental consequences of these exposures. THAT IS A LIE! They were told! They were warned! Immediate and long-term medical care was recommended. The threats, health and environmental consequences, and medical care recommendations were provided in written messages and during courses such as the 3rd U.S. Army Medical Command  ARCENT Medical Management of Chemical and Biological Casualties, the NBC-E defense refresher course, the Combat lifesaver course, and the Decontamination procedures course which we taught to over 1200 military personnel in the theater between December 1990 and February 1991. I gave the classified threat briefing specifically identifying the anticipated NBC-E exposures, taught the NBC-E defense refresher course, the combat lifesaver course, and decontamination procedures course. Thus I can confirm that commanders knew what to expect and how to be prepared!!! Another important fact is that although Department of Defense officials have stated over and over that the vital chemical and biological logs were misplaced or lost, 

S.A. National Parks Petition - Keep It Wild!

2003-01-19 Thread Philip Owen
We are at a time that we need to consider our relationship with Earth. 
We can no longer afford to exploit finite natural resources at the
expense of the integrated environment. We will have to drastically limit
our impact, maximize recycling and minimize waste.  We must protect,
manage and restore natural ecosystems to conserve biodiversity and
maintain ecological services. Most importantly, we must learn to respect
all life, recognizing that all is connected and interdependant and that
there are limits to exploitation.
www.geasphere.co.za 


The South African National Parks Petition

The South African National Parks (SANParks) have embarked on a
commercialization programme that will significantly alter the character
of our National Parks and that threatens to irretrievably alter the
undeveloped status of large tracts of relatively untouched wilderness.
The commercialisation programme includes not only the privatisation of a
number of facilities and services but also the construction of an
indeterminate number of new lodges and roads and the granting of rights
for exclusive use of considerable prime portions of land within our
national parks including the Kruger National Park.  This will include,
inter alia, off-road driving, a considerable increase in night traffic,
commercial air traffic in and out of our park(s), and increased private
and commercial traffic on the existing road network of the parks. The
sale and harvesting of game, birds and other resources in our parks, in
order to make money, has not been ruled out as a possibility. The
decision to embark on this high impact programme that has no defined end
(ie. how much development is acceptable) and scope to indicate what
forms of developments and activities are appropriate or desirable, was
made:
with extremely limited public participation
without an in-depth investigation to look for lower impact alternative
means of generating income for the SANParks without consideration to the
cumulative and off-site impacts of the luxury private concessions (the
individual, compartmentalised developments' Environmental Impact
Assessments DO NOT address these very important impacts); without a
preceding or concurrent investigation and programme having been put in
place to ensure SANParks are optimally managed and structured in terms
of cost effectiveness (efficiency) and accountability (to minimise
unnecessary losses); 
and
without fully complying with all the principles and requirements of
applicable legislation that is currently in place to protect the
integrity of the environment (eg.Section 22 of the Environmental
Conservation Act [Act No. 73 of 1989] and the National Environmental
Management Act [Act No. 107 of 1998]). We support the idea that National
Parks should be managed in a manner that minimises the need for
government subsidies and in a manner that creates jobs and generates a
profit, wherever feasible. However, this must not compromise or destroy
the essence and uniqueness of what makes many people wish to visit our
National Parks (and our country) in the first place. Wilderness areas
are irreplaceable and are ever-increasingly becoming more rare and more
valuable on a global scale. Development decisions need to be made only
after careful and thorough consideration of these facts and of the needs
of future generations, to whom we have an obligation to ensure they are
left with some options of their own. Already, we have left them with
arguably too little undeveloped land. 
We thus support proposals for some, suitably low impact and truly
peripheral developments, where these are deemed appropriate through the
application of the Precautionary Principle (err on the side of caution)
to ensure that long term / permanent loss is not incurred through
decisions motivated by short and medium term needs / profits. We call
for an immediate halt to the concession process  until such time as:

a)  A comprehensive Strategic Environmental Assessment has been
conducted in which all the cumulative and off-site impacts of the
concessions have been identified and addressed;

b)  A thorough investigation has been conducted to identify and consider
all alternatives;

c)  The scope and extent of the commercialisation programme have been
firmly set;

d)  An environmental management system that will capacitate the SANParks
to effectively manage and monitor the programme has been developed and
implemented; and

e)  A proper public participation programme has been conducted!

 To register your support, click here on our Petition Website:
http://www.mylittleblackbook.co.za/Petitions
 

For more information go to :  http://www.geasphere.co.za/sawilderness

Geasphere Website

Also visit the  http://www.parks-sa.co.za/ Parks Website 

Should you wish to support the plea to preserve the integrity of South
Africa's National Parks through a moratorium on commercial developments
until these 5 requirements have been addressed, please add your name to
the petition.

 







Re: Ordo Templi Orientis and RS

2003-01-19 Thread Chris Shade

 RS, while in Berlin, reached the 33rd Level within
 the OTO, or Free Mason. I
 guess that is some association.  Chris-I guess he
 was their type after
 all.
 

Thanks for that information.  One point, though,
Freemasonry has 33 levels (actually 32 official, and
then the mysterious 33rd); and OTO has 9 levels.  OTO
seems to have splintered off of Masonry and many of
the levels are probaly similar or condensates of a few
Masonry degrees.  Many people at RS time seem to have
been in both lodges.

Chris

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Re: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, andelsewhere a horrendous warcrime

2003-01-19 Thread manfred
Title: FW: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, and elsewhere a horrendous warcrime



In addition to this, here is an url dedicated to 
the illumination/clarification of the medical issues regarding DU:
http://www.umrc.net/index.asp
There was also an enlightening live radio interview 
in Seattle area early this week with the director of the umrc. ( a personal 
friend) and a less informed w.h.o. doctor. MD/S.P.I.N.
www.kuow.org

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jane 
  Sherry 
  To: Bdnow 
  Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:08 
  AM
  Subject: FW: [globalnews] US Use of 
  Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, andelsewhere a horrendous warcrime
  Merla, here’s a copy of his 
  address:-The San Francisco Times"When all the news is not 
  fit to printDr. Doug Rokke's address on Depleted 
  UraniumVieques Libre - http://www.viequeslibre.orgThe 
  following is a copy of the Address given by Dr. Doug Rokke, former head of the 
  Pentagon's Depleted Uranium Project, at the National Vietnam and Gulf War 
  Veterans Coalition 17th Annual Leadership Breakfast, at the U.S. Senate Caucus 
  Room on November 10, 2000. Adrian Cronauer was Master of 
  Ceremonies.Distinguished Members of Congress, Coalition Leaders, 
  Fellow Warriors, and Guests-- It is a distinct honor to address you today. 
  During the Gulf War I was the U.S. Army health physicist assigned to 12th 
  Preventive Medicine AM theater command staff and the 3rd U.S. Army Medical 
  Command headquarters. I was recalled to active duty 20 years after serving in 
  Vietnam, from my research job with the University of Illinois Physics 
  Department and sent to the Gulf to ensure that all military and civilian 
  personnel were prepared for the anticipated nuclear, biological, chemical, and 
  environmental exposures. I also was assigned to two equally vital special 
  operations teams: Bauers Raiders and the Depleted Uranium Assessment 
  team.The preparations for war take many forms. Infantry soldiers learn 
  and practice their combat skills, truck drivers practice maneuvering their 
  rigs to make sure they can deliver supplies, and medical personnel prepare to 
  treat the expected combat casualties. Ideally, preparations are driven by 
  intelligence reports. However as the recent bombing of the U.S.S. Cole shows 
  commanders may ignore intelligence information and not protect either their 
  personnel or equipment. Prior to the start of Operation Desert Storm military 
  intelligence reports and threats issued by President Saddam Hussein suggested 
  that nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare and environmental hazards 
  (NBC-E) would be employed to win battles.As we prepared for the battle 
  in the Deserts of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Iraq, medical and combat unit 
  commanders realized that medical personnel must be able to provide emergency 
  medical care to conserve the fighting strength in an NBC-E environment. This 
  required an assessment of medical capabilities. Four deficiencies were 
  identified. First, an assessment of existing emergency medical response 
  capabilities in the staging areas located within Saudi Arabia revealed the 
  need to respond to medical emergencies resulting from combat to disease and 
  non-battle injuries (DNBI). Second, an assessment of medical personnel 
  arriving in Southwest Asia verified that most of them did not have the 
  knowledge, skills, and attitudes needed to provide medical care for the 
  expected nuclear, biological, chemical, and environmental (NBC-E) casualties 
  much less the conventional weapons casualties. Third, the we verified that 
  that most operations personnel needed a NBC-E defense refresher course that 
  was specifically designed for verified threats. Fourth, we needed to design 
  and construct decontamination facilities, prepare standard decontamination 
  procedures, and train personnel to provide immediate personnel and equipment 
  decontamination. Consequently, Bauer's Raiders, the 3d U.S. Army Medical 
  Command theater NBC-E special operations planning and teaching team was 
  formed. Each team member had prior combat experience and was a qualified 
  medical and NBC-E instructor. This team also designed and supervised the 
  construction of the NBC decontamination facilities and provided operations 
  assistance throughout the echelons above corps, corps, and coalition forces. 
  Since 1991 numerous Department of Defense reports have stated that medical and 
  tactical commanders were unaware of the probable NBC-E exposures and never 
  told about the medical and environmental consequences of these exposures. THAT 
  IS A LIE! They were told! They were warned! Immediate and long-term medical 
  care was recommended. The threats, health and environmental consequences, and 
  medical care recommendations were provided in written messages and during 
  courses such as the 3rd U.S. Army Medical Command  

Re: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, andelsewhere a horrendous warcrime

2003-01-19 Thread manfred
Title: FW: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, and elsewhere a horrendous warcrime



Woops, 
Allan:
forgot to snip the bulk of the 
post from global news in previous message. 
manfred


Re: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, andelsewhere a horrendous warcrime

2003-01-19 Thread barrylia
Title: FW: [globalnews] US Use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, Kuwait, and elsewhere a horrendous warcrime



I've not read this thread, so this may have been said already. I happened 
to catch snippets of that KUOW interview. Of interest, it seemed one 
interviewee's concern was as much or more for the straightforward chemical 
toxicity of uranium as for the 
radioactivity.___Barry 
Lia \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Seattle 
WA

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:42:17 -0500 "manfred" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  In addition to this, here is an url dedicated to 
  the illumination/clarification of the medical issues regarding 
DU:
  http://www.umrc.net/index.asp
  There was also an enlightening live radio 
  interview in Seattle area early this week with the director of the umrc. ( a 
  personal friend) and a less informed w.h.o. doctor. MD/S.P.I.N.
  www.kuow.org


Indigenous Microorganisms + Korean Natural Farming Association

2003-01-19 Thread Steve Diver
[Previously... Re: [SANET-MG] Beneficial Soil Microbia]

The question is how to get information on IM or IMO's,
Indigenous Microorganisms.

Well, there is a seminar on Indigenous Microorganisms
at the Ecological Farming Conference in California,
Jan. 22-25.  Gil Carandang, a farmer from the Phillipines,
will demonstrate some of the special cultures.
http://www.eco-farm.org/efc/efc_main.html

Concepts and practices on Indigenous Microorganisms, IM
or IMO, originate with Han Kyu Cho and the Korean Natural
Farming Association, or KNFA, going back 35 to 40 years.
Yet, this knowledge has only come into English language in
the last few years.

There is one book in English, yet it is not available for-sale
from any distributor that I can determine.

Korean Natural Farming: Indigenous Microorganisms and
Vital Power of Crop/Livestock
Han Kyu Cho and Atsushi Koyama
Korean Natural Farming Association, 1997. 172 p.

Here is an address for KNFA:

Korean Natural Farming Association (KNFA)
209-2 Woongok-ri, Chungan-myun
Kyisan Kun, Chung cheong buk do
Republic of Korea
Tel:  (82-43)832-8777
Fax: (82-43)832-8783

Listed in:
Asian Productivity Organization // Green Productivity and
Natural Farming
http://www.apo-tokyo.org

KNFA develops IMO's in association with specific substrates
to create special cultures.  The IMO's are diluted to certain
concentrations and sprayed on plants, composts, and soils.

fermented fruit juices -FFJ
fermented plant juices FPJ
fish amino acid - FAA
brown rice vinegar - BRV
Oriental herbal nutrients - OHN
lactic acid bacteria serum - LAS

Often, these special cultures are mixed together to make
a complete recipe for plant pest control, to provide
soluble nutrients, to provide bioactive substances,
to inoculate the leaf surface with beneficial microorganisms.

KNFA farming practices pay special attention to soil
management, cover crops, and organic mulches. IMO's
are directed at critical stages of the plant growth,
to enhance and facilitate physiology and microbiology.

Very little on IMO's exists on the web, as well.
Here is one article to gain insight:

Indigenous Micro-organisms Put to Work
The Seed Saver's Network
http://www.genevar.com.au/seedsavers/resources/10.html

Here is a web document from a Korean company, a .doc
download, that points to commercial equipment for the
production of fermented biofertilizers with IMO's in
the KNFA tradition.  It contains useful background
information on KNFA, IMO's, microbial processes, and
microbial benefits.  It contains photos in an educational
series that show the production steps and processes.

Bio Plant of Indigenous Microorganism
Developed by... Natural Farming Institute
Manufactured by... H-Tec Co., Ltd
http://www.htech-fa.co.kr/english/env/images/infoeng.doc

Interestingly, EM in Japan does something very similar.  The
equipment featured here may be the same.  Over 1 million
Japanese households collect  food scraps in the EM bokashi
buckets.  Trucks come by every once in a while to pick up the
pickled bokashi-treated food waste.  The bokashi food-waste
material is taken to farms and composted.  And, the bokashi
food-waste material is taken to these biofertilizer plants which
run the material through bioprocessing equipment that integrates
(as best I can surmise):  bokashi food-waste + rice bran biomass
+ molasses + EM microbes + heat treatment + fermentation
process that results in a ready-to-use, pelletized organic
fertilizer for use on commerical on organic farms.

Web research on Korean-language websites -- to locate IMO
material on the web -- included digging through Korean
characters to find English-language resources.  That's how
I found the following chapter from Korea Organic Farming
Association, which offers complimentary notes on organic
farming, composting, fermentation, beneficial microorganisms,
and special-culture microbial-inoculants.

The Technics and Management of Organic Farming
Korea Organic Farming Association
http://www.organic.or.kr/whatis/what6.php

Similarly, web research found these items at Research Institute
of Organic Agriculture, Dan Kook University, Republic of Korea.

Research Institute of Organic Agriculture
Dan Kook University, Republic of Korea
http://www.anseo.dankook.ac.kr/~ecnet/

Chemical Characteristics of Soil and NO3- Accumulation of
Vegetable by Conventional and Organic farming in Korea
College of Agriculture, Dan Kook University, Republic of Korea
http://www.anseo.dankook.ac.kr/%7Eecnet/serve/base9.html

Development, Current Issues and Prospects of  Organic Agriculture
Movement in Korea
College of Agriculture, Dan Kook University, Republic of Korea
http://www.anseo.dankook.ac.kr/%7Eecnet/serve/base7.html

If you look at EM practices, you can see that Kyusei Nature
Farming + EM practices from Japan does something very similar
to KNFA + IM from Korea -- interestingly -- and that is get
beneficial microbes in touch with organic substrates and let
microbiology work over the organic amendments and raw

Re: Indigenous Microorganisms + Korean Natural Farming Association

2003-01-19 Thread Allan Balliett
Thanks for this information filled post, Steve.

To share with the group, I was introduced to Korean Natural Farming a 
couple of years back. One of my interns came from a family that was 
commercially involved with Korean Natural Farming. The intern herself 
had worked for a season at a cucumber greenhouse in Japan that 
utilized Korean Natural Farming methods to produce cucumbers that she 
described as 'free of disease, 40% larger than non-innoculated 
cucumbers, bringing 50percent more at market, and lines of housewives 
waiting for the cukes each market day as the large, healthy cucumbers 
were believed to also have profound health benefits.' She was very 
clear: Korean Natural Farming was founded in Korea but thrived in 
Japan. She also described he culture of cucumbers: plants sprayed 
with a fermentation of GROWING TIPS of cucumbers growing on black 
plastic in greenhouses. If you peeled back the black plastic, the 
ground under it and around the cucumber stems was covered about 1/2 
inch thick with a mat of white mycellium.  Again: no greenhouse 
diseases and no pest problems around, including cucumber beetles.

It was this information and a visit to Bob Cannards indigenous 
microbe operation that spurred my interest in compost tea (CT).

I do not, however, for a minute, think that the bd preps are 'about' microbes.
Forget the effects of using the preps, for now. Is anyone satisfied 
that the transubstantiation of cow manure to purest humus that occurs 
in a horn is accomplished by microbial action alone? If so, let me 
know.

-Allan



Re: Indigenous Microorganisms + Korean Natural Farming Association

2003-01-19 Thread Steve Diver
Hey Allan -

The language and resources I posted on BD practices
as special culture approaches to take advantage of
IMO's is accurate and revealing and expansive
but certainly not the whole picture; nor should you assume
that is what I imply.  You can look at my resources in
totality and easily see that life force energy and
dynamic effects are all there in my attempts to share
information on the bio-dymamic approach.

BD-Now handles the subtle energy aspects of BD
on a regular basis, so there's no fuss.

I did promise to post notes and resources on subtle
energy aspects of EM + Magnetic Resonance + Hado,
weaving a thread back to the universality of Humus
Management + Biological Energy Fields resulting from
enlivened microbes, yet I'll do that some day in
the future.

Now I better go focus on workshop notes.

Peace,
Steve


Allan Balliett wrote:

I do not, however, for a minute, think that the bd preps are 'about'
microbes.
Forget the effects of using the preps, for now. Is anyone satisfied
that the transubstantiation of cow manure to purest humus that occurs
in a horn is accomplished by microbial action alone? If so, let me
know.





Re: Canberra Wildfire

2003-01-19 Thread Gil Robertson
Roger Pye wrote:

 we need your prayers tonight very badly

Hi! Roger,
What is the latest on the fires. We trust that the weather will be kinder
and the worst has passed.

My daughter, who lives in western Melbourne, phoned from the tram stop at
seven this morning on her way to work, to ask how far smoke from a big fire
travels as the sun came up bright red and the atmosphere full of smoke,
assumedly from the fires on the NSW/ Vic border. It is raining in the west
of SA and near Adelaide. But not here (Port Lincoln)

Regards

Gil




Canberra wildfires

2003-01-19 Thread Maxwriter
Roger, will continue to focus my thoughts of low/no wind and drenching rain over a 
mental map of the Canberra area since reading your reports of the horific firestorms 
earlier today. Am visualizing orgone-like squiggles as best as I can recall 
SteveStorch's description of them some time back. Also have in mind the concept 
organizational patterns since their underrepresentation, from what I understand from 
reading on this list (?), seems to be lacking in conditions of low/no rain.
HTH,
- Lily




Re: Lungworm problem

2003-01-19 Thread Ian Kate Buckingham



Diana

One of the following maybe of help, depending on 
symptoms.

Characteristic cough. Head lowered during spasms - 
Cuprum aceticum

Patient becomes thin. Breathing shallow and rapid - 
Drosera

Rapid breathe. Patient thin and anxious - 
Lycopodium

Worse for movement. Cow lies down a lot of the 
time. - Bryonia

I generally recommend to use these remedies in 30c 
potency. After twice a day for 3 days I would expect to see a change in the 
animal.

Ian BuckinghamMaungatawhiriNew 
Zealand

  I have a 16 month 
  heifer who has a lungworm problemand I would like help for 
  her.She is under no pressure feedwise.4 weeks 
  agoshe had5 daysof being drenched daily withcider 
  vinegarand still not a happy girlAny suggestions 
  please?