Re: [SPAM] Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-28 Thread Mateusz Grotek
Dear Squeakers, As a long term Linux user let me add a couple of remarks to the discussion. The Linux way of doing things focuses on the super old school UNIX mentality that the person using the system knows what they're doing better than any program or developer can guess, and so the

Re: [SPAM] Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-28 Thread Phil (list)
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 09:56 +0100, Mateusz Grotek wrote: Dear Squeakers, As a long term Linux user let me add a couple of remarks to the discussion. The Linux way of doing things focuses on the super old school UNIX mentality that the person using the system knows what they're doing

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-27 Thread Phil (list)
On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 23:44 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Jan 24, 2015 11:00 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Bert says there are easy to follow instructions to do it. I actually said that there should be easy to follow instructions and was hoping for

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Muller
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil (list) pbpubl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 23:44 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Jan 24, 2015 11:00 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Bert says there are easy to follow instructions to do it. I actually said that

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-26 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 25.01.2015 um 23:44 schrieb Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 25.01.2015, at 09:21, Tim Retz human.shield@gmail.com mailto:human.shield@gmail.com wrote: if you use Linux, it's the user's responsibility to know (or figure out) how to get a piece of software working.

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-25 Thread Michael Rice
That being said, double-clicking the squeak.sh in the extracted all-in-one folder should get everything running, or give you error messages that Google could help with. Double-clicking doesn't work in my Fedora 19 Linux. Must do this instead: 1) Find the icon that looks like a terminal; open it

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.01.2015, at 09:21, Tim Retz human.shield@gmail.com wrote: if you use Linux, it's the user's responsibility to know (or figure out) how to get a piece of software working. If we claim that we support Linux, then we should help any user trying to get it to run. Also, Squeak *is*

Re: [Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-25 Thread Chris Muller
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Michael Rice limitc...@gmail.com wrote: That being said, double-clicking the squeak.sh in the extracted all-in-one folder should get everything running, or give you error messages that Google could help with. Double-clicking doesn't work in my Fedora 19 Linux.

[Newbies] Beginner's List Question

2015-01-24 Thread Kirk Fraser
I finally found the responses to my email that never arrived in my inbox yet by looking in the Archive. Thanks. Apparently my question needs to be restated in better jargon. So here goes: A beginner might want to start Squeak on a Linux machine. The Beginner's heading has no information for a