On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:57 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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Drieux if ( ref($got_back) eq Foo::Bar)
No no no. Stop using ref(). It means you can't replace it
with a subclass of it.
You want (and I show in my still-hidden article);
if (UNIVERSAL::isa
allowing a module
work out how many processes to create?
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now if you're a subscriber. But in there,
I tout Exception::Class as a good solution.
We look forward to the kvetch.
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commonly shared functions.
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};
self; # since the 'new' returns the blessed self...
}
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of stuff that is much closer to
the OS specifics that are easier to write and maintain
in a 'c-code' source that one builds an XS module to
expose to the Perl Coders as the compromise.
cf: perldoc h2xs
So use the correct Swiss Army Chainsaw on the problem.
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are 'formal languages'
and hence have to be formalizable, this is why they
are by definition 'not natural languages'. So the
question then really is what part of the 'formalization'
are you having problems with?
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On Apr 23, 2004, at 9:04 PM, WC -Sx- Jones wrote:
[..]
Please, decode this key:
SxEyj/gJs5pXISX11386025
Thank you in advance :)
[..]
My compliments to your wit.
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or not - since reasonable folks do not generally
stuff shell variables into /etc/sysconfig/apache
At which point there is the other odd question
that comes to mind, why? What is it you are
really trying to work out ? Why not talk to
the httpd directly?
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language should I pick' - unfortunately that
is really only one part of the problem.
As the saying goes - anything can be turned
into a club - the questions then become what
exactly was one planning to beat to a pulp
with it.
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On Apr 21, 2004, at 4:16 AM, Michael C. Davis wrote:
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Thanks for the insights, drieux. While I wish I were
in a position to establish corporate policy, I'm not,
and my objective is merely to satisfy
myself that I have a reasoned, workable approach.
Your feedback helps a lot.
Coming up
problem or this or that,
and one check for how they deal with an ambiguously
worded coding problem - hence whether they should
be looking before leaping - and then one catches
their basic issues with actually doing perl code.
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on creating
the appropriate code coverage in the t/ and making sure
that the POD is useful are the places where your time is best spent.
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with an ambiguously
worded coding problem - hence whether they should
be looking before leaping - and then one catches
their basic issues with actually doing perl code.
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the simple strategy
of being put in
$ENV{HOME}/bin
with a uselib line of
$ENV{HOME}/lib/perl5
then use your installer with the offset
values to install it there.
Haul around one distribution and it will
work for all of your 'user names' on
all of the machines.
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does that...
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there\
Happy Happy | ./stdio.plx
Hello there
Happy Happy
past the line
[jeeves: 29:]
HTH.
yes, your old school tie 'c coding tricks'
are mostly what you fill find most useful...
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into the database.
If all of the items that can be placed in the cart are
on one page, then you seem to have your solution here.
The trick becomes if one has to create a shopping cart
that will persist over several web page presentations.
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for the 'learn perl references, objects, modules' by R. Schwartz,
it will help get you into module building as well...
HTH.
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for keeping track of which of
them you are dealing with as they write to you. But you can
get that part spun up after you have your basic translation
table in place.
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HTH.
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to go about this type of problem is discussed at
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/Proj/DI704/
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sure that your
documentation makes clear where to find all of the other docs...
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{
my ($me, $arg, $other) = @_;
$me-doOther($arg) unless $other ;
...
}
but I am fond of 'my $me' and it saves me from
having to type two additional letters...
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. This is a part of
how/why one likes to encapsulate things into perl modules so
that one can hide the common repeatively repeated redundent parts
without having to keep retyping them over and over and over again
in each new script that you need.
HTH.
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back and review what exactly
you are trying to do in the process.
Do you really like having a declared cgi-bin directory?
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looked at say
perldoc IO::Handle
eg:
$io-opened
Returns true if the object is currently a valid file
descriptor,
false otherwise.
The perldoc IO::File is a subclass of IO::Handle...
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If all you need is a form mail then check out
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/nms-cgi/formmail/
but it rests on even 'older' technology than the
Mail::Mailer modules...
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you will note that
a. there is no 'new' in the perl code,
b. hence it goes into the AutoLoader, but
gets a response back that the 'new' construct is not found
in the underlying XS code.
HTH.
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to be flushed...
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On Feb 4, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Johnson, Michael wrote:
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I guess a part of the question is at what level.
My general documentation is at:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/Proj/TPFH/gen_doc.html
if you feel at home reading just Perl Doc's
/11/09 SMI
require 5.6.1;
use strict;
use warnings;
vladimir: 60:]
HTH.
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code that will deal with that.
But there is the problem with the sigkill, which
is a non-maskable interrupt.
cf
man stty
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On Jan 27, 2004, at 6:59 AM, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
This is probably a stupid question, but does anyone know how to force
the output of print to actually PRINT, without forcing me to use a \n?
did you try
$| = 1;
cf perldoc perlvar
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sub foo { my ($me,$arg) = @_; print have arg: $arg\n; }
}
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not
be located in the dynamic link library oracore9.dll
[/snip]
Has anyone else seen this? If so, how do I fix this?
[..]
it appears that you have a DLL mismatch problem there.
I think the version of the client side is is not correct
for what the wrapping code is trying to get to.
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function {
(\%author_indexlines, \%poem_lines, [EMAIL PROTECTED], $etc)
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then you re-ref them as
while( my ($k,$v) = each %$author )
{
}
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Since basically I go with the idea that perl modules really
belong as perl modules and then one has a simpler overall
management problem. First because then multiple scripts
can use the package, then as you so elegantly have demonstrated
= \my_cisco_err_handler
);
You might also find a better place to write your Dump_log
and hence also where you are puttng your Input_log to read from
and put those in variables as well...
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to externalize them as a Perl Module.
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advocates
doing the start of a perl module with h2xs
cf perldoc h2xs
so that you can start off at least modestly sanely
my traditional rant on PM's is at
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/lang/Perl/PM/quick_pm.html
When I am brewing up a new module, I then of course use
something like
http
object {
my $self = shift;
return $self-{OBJECT} unless @_;
my @list = $self-{OBJECT};
[..]
have we thought about doing that as an array ref?
$self-{OBJECT} = [xpto1,xpto2];
...
my @list = @{$self-{OBJECT}};
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For Quality purpouses, Ajey Kulkarni 's mail on Saturday 24 January
2004 17:52
may have been monitored or recorded as:
i would like to quickly append a string to a variable.
open NEWFH, $filename.new or die new procmailrc err;
where $filename has
woman[1]
And do I need to take down the Satelite Dish first
before trying to wash it Or can I put the whole
house into the dishwasher
You know this with trying to be a Terran is
clearly much tougher than the original briefing said...
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$probability[$roll] \n;
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has been addressed, my pet favorite way to include a
package inside of a piece of code is
BEGIN {
package Foo::Bar;
}
That way it will be compiled early and so you can
place it above the __DATA__ section since it is
not 'data'.
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On Jan 23, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
[..]
when I tried to add a package to it, I did some test and its not
reading
the DATA anymore. Is there a certain order?
[..]
How did you put the package in?
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my $foo
);
will work without requiring the no strict refs.
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Some code to play around with would be:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my ($foo, $line) ;
while(DATA){
chomp;
/^([\w:]+)\s+(.*)/;
($foo, $line) = ($1
then it is going off to it's own
Monkey.pm
file where it is a fully externalized perl module...
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won't be available?
[..]
did you try something like
sub new
{
my $type = shift;
# call our parent class new to get our $self
my $self = $type-SUPER::new();
.
}
cf:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/OO/Object_in_Object.html
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One of the stock modules most of us use is Getopt::Long
which is really good for the more complex command line optioning.
cf:
perldoc Getopt::Long
An Illustration:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/CommandLine/
do_get_opt_long.txt
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, $value) = each %$allRecs) {
minor nit.
So what exactly were you planning to assign the output
of that map to???
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) = @_;
my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @$list1;
grep { $_ if ( ! exists($hash{$_})) } @$list2;
}
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are they
really trying to go with their idea. The only way
that a person can sort that out is by trial and error.
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|;
print qq|x $Building x\n|;
and the last lines look like:
TD bgcolor=blackEW9NS8/TDTD/TD
TD bgcolor=blackEW9NS9/TDTD/TD
/TR
/TABLE
x TEST.gif x br
x EW9NS9 x
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Word is: $array[3][3]\n;
HTH...
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you accept the
code without the Proper POD and internal comments?
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of perl you are
using on your PC and the 5.8 version on the linux box???
yes, i'm using perl-5.8.1 and he is using 5.8.0
Strange.
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be cooler
if one could start with say
use Foo::Monkey;
and have it contain
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use diagnostics;
and work in the sort of
#include stockHeaderStuff
way that would turn it into a one liner.
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use to start
the basic perl code that I will actually create and they
have
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
already in them - along with various other things that
I have found useful to have as a basic template for this
or that type of perl coding...
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???
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is going to deal with
all of the STDOUT|STDERR as well a always sending
you the email...
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, that it will stop working soon.
When one notices that deprecated is used in
documentation about code that means it is time to
go back and refactor any code you had that used
that trick so as to be safer in subsequent releases.
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)
{
($type) = split(::);
}
}
so that you have a slightly more 'obvious' solution...
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that you
need to know or understand about the underlying
binary incompatibility between 5.6 and 5.8.X at
the XS level...
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only or in
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that are in the RPM.
any additional perl modules that have an XS component
will need to be re-built and installed.
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are wandering into is the problem
of can one code without an IDE... and in particular without
a GUI that provides colour coded syntax matching...
One way to think about the problem is:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/PR/blog2/Code/200401.html#id3156855452
One of the reasons that folks tend to use vi
a stand alone
CD and will get you the current gcc plus all of the expected
supporting libraries.
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with
http://perl.oreilly.com/
and
http://www.perldoc.com/
and the current version of perldoc stuff
that came with your release of perl.
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for it...
Otherwise, accept that in the long run it is simpler
to skip over the prototyping
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upgrade by rpm and then STOMP on it with
your own build...
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point is that one should cut the code
with the open dread that one will be the person who
will have to come back and refactor the code - so leave
one's self bread crumb trails about why one did which -
it will help
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] ;
} # end of some_sub
in this case there is a function call in the while
loop that will return the array reference - but there
is the minor detail that it is NOT being assigned to $_
as is your assumption...
HTH.
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of
making sure that it is
my $guts = ($use_second_choice)? $var2: $var1 || '';
Just a thought to think...
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can see that now.
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have updated the code
to show how the IO::Select could be used to gate
for the case that the code was called without
command line input, nor a current connection for STDIN.
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/CommandLine/
file_or_stdin.plx
Note all of the noisy 'print statements
for that there is perldoc perlipc
for everything else, there is ioctl()
8-)
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it's sorta a case of what exactly were you trying
to do with the case like statement???
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this will invoke the 'goWork' code in an xterm...
HTH
ciao
drieux
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that
with the IO::Select approach - since that will tell one
if there are bits on STDIN, even if the process itself
is being run without a controlling terminal.
To help illustrate the point:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/CommandLine/
got_ttyline.plx
now granted, I have only tested
|| '';
ciao
drieux
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multiple files were
specified on the command line)?
This is gonna sound a bit silly, so laugh along
with me while I play this out.
If you want to know which is the whom For What,
why not simply code it that way?
As an illustration:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/CommandLine
merely
need a client side application...
But you may wish to check with say Hummingbird
http://www.hummingbird.com/exceedusers/
and see if any of the specific issues you think
you may be having with putty-exceeds have already
been dealt with.
ciao
drieux
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be breaking down in strange and twisted manners.
What did you see when you ran it in the perl debugger?
ciao
drieux
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of A...
have you peeked at the
perldoc perltoot
to begin with???
ciao
drieux
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one go about creating a wrapper class
that will allow one to stuff objects into other
objects without actually getting into the whole
multiple class inheritence thing:
cf:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/perlTrick/OO/Object_in_Object.html
So I too look forward to which is the issue set the OP
.
The more complex way would be your basic
pipe and exec trick say something like:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/Sys/gen_sym_big_dog.txt
so you will need to be a bit more clear about whether
it is really run time data - or the fact that both codes
will need a common perl module that understands how
answer.
I personally would start with
perldoc h2xs
since that will help frame out your perl module
in a way that will allow you to install it either
canonically like any other CPAN module -
cf:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/Proj/Wetware_ps/
index.html#id3154425254
for the perl 5.8.1 stype
might want to take a look at the illustrative
code provided from O'Reilly with the Mastering
Regular Expressions, where it is trying to resolve
for 'legitimate email address' as being one of the
more complex problems.
ciao
drieux
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On Dec 31, 2003, at 9:04 AM, deb wrote:
Drieux,
Vladimir???
yes, named after vladimir ilyich,
it is my Sparc Box.
:-)
Thanks for the hints. :-)
Personally I would be doing it with something like
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/CS/Proj/Wetware_ps/
Which of course first started out as
http
there is both perl and ksh.
ciao
drieux
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:
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/PR/blog2/Code/200312.html#id3155628391
in it I have references to two pieces of demonstration
code that you might want to think about as tactics in
this type of problem.
ciao
drieux
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in the process.
Logically the next line would do the remove
of things like the \f and then we start
worrying about the rest of the substitutions.
I presume you have already peeked
perldoc perlretut
as well as picked up the book on mastering
regular expressions.
ciao
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1,$s/init_tm/time_object_init_tm/g
1,$s/mini_mktime/time_object_mini_mktime/g
and now your code will not have function names that will
get into an argument. I have cc'd matt into this, in the
hope that he may have a better fix.
ciao
drieux
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