Re: Ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Book knowledge, information knowledge can't cover the emotions that it all entails. It takes BOTH learned knowledge and experience, IMHO. Excellent post Sandy. Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snobear.freeyellow.com

Re: Has anyone ever returned a puppy??

2002-11-13 Thread Jdfolmar
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Re: Osteochondrosis

2002-11-13 Thread bernese
Hi Anne I can only give you our personal experience with OCD with our girl Ari. When Ari was about 8 mnths she started limping and after X-rays it was determined that she had a joint mouse [what they call the piece of bone that has come loose]...however in Ari's case it had not yet come

Re..now what?

2002-11-13 Thread BMdfriend
I too find that this thread is interesting and agree with most of what has been said about breeding and guarantees. When I sell a pup, I try not to make it sound like a good deal in that if the pup turns up dysplastic requiring surgery or euthanasia the pup price will be refunded in full. I

Re: Osteochondrosis

2002-11-13 Thread Eileen Morgan
Cross-species alert! My big gelding, Bard, developed OCD during a late growth spurt (he is over 17 hands tall, which means 5'8 at the withers, and weighs in at about 1450-1500 lbs--much, much bigger than both parents). Although they do a lot of OCD surgery on horses these days, his was very mild

Re: Ongoing Discussion of ED, HD and Breeders

2002-11-13 Thread Eileen Morgan
- Original Message - From: Valerie Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard for me to relate to those who are looking for show quality puppies and want their money back or want to return the dog if they don't turn out to be perfect specimens. I CAN see if they paid a premium that there is

Update about Neala

2002-11-13 Thread Sylvia Katvala
Dr.D just called me to talk about our plan of action with Neala. At the check up last week she was able to feel 6 lymphnodes, which were about peasize. Normally they cannot be felt. It could be allergies or something harmless, but the antibiotics should take care of it. She has this one sided wet

Re: Puppy Pictures

2002-11-13 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
The new pictures of the puppies at 4 weeks of age are on the WebPages along with some of the PPO's. Of course there's one of me with an lap full. As I looked the site over I noticed some misspelled words so please forgive the errors. Some of the picture files are a little larger so when you click

RE: Re Contracts/Guarantee

2002-11-13 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Sandy, I think you are looking at this one the wrong way. No one should promise to finish a dog if they don't want to do it. It's a lot of work and a lot of expense. Promising to get a CH on a dog if they don't plan to do it is not good for either the breeder or the owner. It's not a contract

Rescue Berner -- foster home needed ASAP!

2002-11-13 Thread Brnrmom
There is an 18 month old neutered male Berner in the NJ area who needs a new home, he will eventually be needing permanant adoption -- but for now most urgently needs at least an emergency foster. He sounds like a fun loving wild child.energetic, digs in the yard, described as

MINI-FUNDRAISER TO BENEFIT CANCER RESEARCH!!!

2002-11-13 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
I am very pleased to announce a Mini Fundraiser to benefit research on Malignant Histiocytosis in Berners. This fundraiser is Mini because it will only run for ten days. It also only has two fantastic items. The fundraiser will start today, November 13th and will run until November

Re: Guarantee/Contract Issues

2002-11-13 Thread Emma
I know this is from France so the issues are different and I have been reading with interest. We bought our lovely BMD from a breeder after much research (though not enough as I now realise). We realised things were not as they seemed when we tried to email and call for help with the terrible

Re: LSBMDC Signature Calendar

2002-11-13 Thread ptackett
Fellow L'ers I have heard that LSBMDC has already raised $1,000 for the Light One Candle.Come on folks we can raise more than that! This is a great cause -- for the future of not just our breed but other breeds to help change import transportation regulations. It only costs about

RE: shared info

2002-11-13 Thread Tracey Conner
Fox 2 news did a VERY short thing on this story this morning -- I watched for a Berner -- but didn't see any -- I saw a 1 or 2 week old tri-colored puppy -- but it had a black nose; don't Berner puppies have pink noses?? I also sent this email to the morning crew for their whats on your mind

Chaplin 4 1/2 mo Project Chaplin

2002-11-13 Thread Jennifer Delannoy
Hi List Mates!!! Chaplin is so much happier and less howling from all your input. I printed out all your replies and the kids and I read them. I made it like a home work assignment. ;0) We we're s guilty of leaving shoes around, things on the counter. There new assignment is called There new

Help!

2002-11-13 Thread Ed Wilk
http://web1.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=2pet=1211795adTarget=468doggenera lSessionID=3dd254671dfb2091display=preview=row=0

Re: Signature calendars amount raised so far!

2002-11-13 Thread Patricia Tackett
Fellow L'ers I have heard that LSBMDC has already raised $1,000 for the Light One Candle lobbying effort.Come on folks we can raise more than that! This is a great cause -- for the future of not just our breed but other breeds to help change import transportation regulations. It only costs

Re: Two young Berners needing homes

2002-11-13 Thread Judith Johnson
I thought the word was out that those 2 already were adopted? Judith on 11/12/02 10:25 PM, Susanne at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, There are 2 Berner siblings, born in March 2002 needing new homes. They are currently being fostered for the Northern Virginia SPCA can be seen at:

Re: Fw: Ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread BernerFolk
Sent this this morning...haven't seen it show up. Sorry if it ends up posted twice. -SV In a message dated 11/12/2002 5:51:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Breeders don't PLAN on scamming their buyers, they don't PLAN on pups becoming ill or dysplasic, they don't PLAN

Re: Two young Berners needing homes (NOT)

2002-11-13 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/13/2002 12:16:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, There are 2 Berner siblings, born in March 2002 needing new homes. They are currently being fostered for the Northern Virginia SPCA can be seen at: Look at Max Zoe at:

Hips, Elbows, X-Rays, Breeders, Owners...

2002-11-13 Thread catherine green
Whew! Now that I'm caught up on my Digests I must say that there have been some lively discussions! (we've been busy with Jenny and Canoe, getting them settled in and realizing that yes, we DO have 4 big dogs!) Our breeder sold us a pup with one blue eye for the same price as hershow quality pups.

Moses' osteosarcoma treatment begins

2002-11-13 Thread Lisa D Allen
Today we completed stage one in the treatment of Moses' bone cancer; the leg in which the tumor resided was amputated, the left rear, where the tumor was discovered on his femur. As many of you recall, my Yoda, too, lost a leg but NOT to bone cancer, in fact, no cancer was found in Yoda's

bleeding gums

2002-11-13 Thread Beverly Arnold
Does anyone have any experience with bleeding gums in Berners? Yesterday I noticed that Han's gums around his teeth were unusually red and several of his teeth had blood around the base. His mouth is definitely sore, he hasn't chewed up a remote control in a week. He had a bout of ulcers in

RE: Rescue Berner -- foster home needed ASAP!

2002-11-13 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Passing this along in plain text for Helen: In NJ -- 18 month, male, neutered, bred by Grace Bloemart in Alberta, Canada. Owner has an older Golden and a fenced yard and has done all she can to civilize this dog. He is VERY hyper -- destroys everything; chewed his way out of a metal crate, digs

Re: MINI-FUNDRAISER TO BENEFIT CANCER RESEARCH!!!

2002-11-13 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Hi Carol, I'm so happy that your story has a wonderful ending - I think that the word benign is one of my most favorite words!!! It's great news that Stretch is doing so well and the NO CANCER report will help you feel a lot better, too! Thanks for your support for our fundraiser and for

Re: ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread Sharon Montville
The way I interpreted Pat's comment about breeders who force an owner to finish the CH on a show quality pup was like this... not sure if this was what she meant or not: Oftentimes, the breeder has a pup or two left s/he thinks are nice and wants to see these pups in a show home. In the

Re: Trembling puppy......

2002-11-13 Thread Marion Brown
Dear Valerie The disease you are thinking of is called Hypomyelinogenesis and is a condition in which the normal myelin sheath-axon relationship is not properly formed. It has been concluded that this condition is brought about by the absence of myelin on the nerve fibres. It is believed to be a

All Too Suddenly...

2002-11-13 Thread Workndog
All too suddenly All too suddenly, Our house is much too quiet. All too suddenly, There is no one to come to the gate to welcome me home. All too suddenly, There are too many leashes on the rack for only a one dog household. All too suddenly, I don’t have to struggle to get dressed in the