Re: more BARF questions

2003-08-14 Thread Karyn Waugh
There are several books out there that you can read about BARF. My personal favorites are: all of Dr. Ian Billinghurst's books (Give your dog a bone, grow your pup on bones, and his new one BARF Diet), and Susan Johnson's book, Switching to Raw. You may want to consider joining

more BARF questions

2003-08-14 Thread Vicky Whitney
Hi, Kendra. I'll BRIEFLY address your BARF questions, as this is sort of a taboo subject here on the Berner-L. Like some other emotionally-charged topics it has caused big flame wars in the past. A more appropriate place for discussion and getting some EXCELLENT information, support

BARF ALTERNATIVES

2003-08-08 Thread Tschuggen
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more BARF questions

2003-08-05 Thread KendyBo
Hi again, I'm starting to think about trying BARF again, and have a few questions. 1. Is there a simple book I can get, with information, and most of all, recipes? 2. Is there an easy way to make the BARF diet? Does it have to consist of tons of ingredients, and does it have to involve

BARF versus Kibble, Berner-L Discussions

2003-07-05 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
discussion of BARF can be done on the Natural Berners yahoogroup List. Anyone who would like to ask about BARF or give a general summary on the Berner-L, please do! We always have new people on the List, and we'd always like to hear more. As in any discussion, it is best not to make negative comments

what is BARF?

2003-06-10 Thread Vicky Whitney
(food, vaccinations, pesticides, etc.). BARF stands for biologically appropriate raw foods or bones and raw foods. The theory behind it is that all life was designed by nature to be nurtured by specific foods -- and dogs were not designed to eat grains, highly-processed, or cooked foods. Just

Re: excuse my ignorance what is BARF, etc.

2003-06-09 Thread The Ortega Family
I also know only a little but while all of you with the expertise are answering the question posed by Andie excuse my ignorance -- what is the BARF diet? -- would you please address generally, HOW vegetables, fruits, and other human raw foods are prepared for dogs? Im not planning to go BONES

First timer--barf diet and puppies

2003-06-08 Thread etfonehome1
My cute little Hawkeye (we are oringinally from Iowa) is 5 mo old and #58. He is not thin but looking tall and sleek. This is the first dog I have ever feed the BARF diet to. My other two adult dogs are also participating. They are doing great with the adult dogs eating 2% fo their body wt

Joining NaturalBerners list (was BARF)

2003-02-17 Thread Vicky Whitney
In response to a question about a BARF diet, I suggested anyone interested in BARF, natural raw diets, or discussions on more natural treatment of Berner health in general, join the NaturalBerners list at yahoogroups.com. Deb Tripp, the moderator, just reminded me that this is a restricted

BARF and trichinosis

2003-02-17 Thread Vicky Whitney
from a wide variety of wild game meats. (I feed raw wild elk, antelope, bison, and deer meat here in Montana, but I will NOT feed bear meat to my dogs.) People and dogs can carry trichinella cysts but not be clinically affected. Most us who feed BARF or another raw diet do feed raw pork products

Re: BARF and trichinosis

2003-02-17 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Thanks for the info. Vicky. I don't feed BARF, but am not against it. Growing up I had a Mom who drilled into me that pork MUST be well done or we'd all die of trichinosis! So was just curious about dogs who ate it raw. : ) Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California

Re: BARF/YahooGoup

2003-02-15 Thread E M Poster
Dear Vicky... I just went to YahooGroups and did a search for NaturalBerners in every shape and form that I can think of but alas I can not find it. Can you help me here? BTW... I/We are new to the this list as well as a waiting list for a Berner Pup. This E-List is a veritable fountain of

Re: BARF/YahooGoup

2003-02-15 Thread Liz Caldwell
At 10:39 AM -0500 2/15/03, E M Poster wrote: Dear Vicky... I just went to YahooGroups and did a search for NaturalBerners in every shape and form that I can think of but alas I can not find it. Can you help me here? BTW... I/We are new to the this list as well as a waiting list for a Berner Pup.

Re: BARF

2003-02-15 Thread James and Karen Gross
Pat, Is this true? Do you eat Scrapple? My husband is from Nebraska and he has been trying and trying to find scrapple since he moved here (Oregon), of course, no body here even knows what scrapple is Do you have a recipe? I would love to surprise him sometime and make him some thanks

Re: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread jane heggen
of iowa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: Re: BARF I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a good understanding of the basics. You listed

BARF Diet

2003-02-14 Thread JAL
a Bone by Dr. Ian Billinghurst. This book is easy to understand and explains the principles of the BARF diet. There is also a yahoo group specifically for people that raw-feed their Berners called Natural Berners. The only drawback to the diet that I can see is 1) you must do your homework

Re: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread jane heggen
Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: BARF At 11:26 PM 13/02/2003 -0600, Pat wrote: My understanding of the four basic food groups for humans is as follows: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate That's

RE: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi, For the British:-) Tea Chocolate Red Wine Cheese Mine has two anti-oxidants! Rose T.

BARF

2003-02-14 Thread Vicky Whitney
ORIGINAL POST: From:Jenn and Scott Waldron [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been reading a lot about the BARF diet and have heard a lot of positive things and no negatives. Are there any draw backs to a raw diet? Does a raw diet make the dog more aggressive and less domesticated? And finally, I have

BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Jenn and Scott Waldron
Thank you everyone who sent me information and supply lists. I am just about ready for my boy to come home. I have one last issue to resolve. I have been reading a lot about the BARF diet and have heard a lot of positive things and no negatives. Are there any draw backs to a raw diet? Does a raw

RE: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Jean, The biggest drawback I know of the BARF diet is a lack of dietary knowledge. My understanding of the four basic food groups for humans is as follows: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate That's not a mistake, chocolate is important enough to be two separate food groups. Green

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Brnrmom
I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a good understanding of the basics. You listed the 4 basic food groups as: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate You scored a 50%,which is really pretty good, you are half there. Here is the correct list, based on my

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread gwebara
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:48:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a good understanding of the basics. You listed the 4 basic food groups as: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate You scored a 50%,which is really

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
H .I think that Pat is going to have to add a 5th (no pun intended) item (Margueritas) to her four basic food groups!!! Joye Neff --On Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:10 PM -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:48:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see that you do in