Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-18 Thread Ryan Inch via Bf-committers
Congratulations Dan!  I know this has been something that's been problematic for a long time, so it's great you were able to improve things (and by the sound of it, things have improved by a lot) Ryan Inch (Imaginer) On 2022-06-17 17:45, Dan McGrath via Bf-committers wrote: Just a heads-up

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-18 Thread Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers
Except for you just now i don't think anyone is questioning the need for version control on the 3rd party dependencies. This tree was there long before i joined the blender project so can't give any insights on any controversy in creating it. However whenever this subject (why svn) comes up, it

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-18 Thread Ankit via Bf-committers
Zack - To track library versions https://developer.blender.org/T88438 - To tag corresponding versions for each release https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/tags/ - Some bugs show up due to deps also, https://developer.blender.org/rBL62677 . VCS can point to the commit that caused it.

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-18 Thread Zack Brown via Bf-committers
Hi everyone, It's fascinating to see this discussion. It never occurred to me that anyone might continue to prefer svn once git came into existence, and yet here is a sample case, right under my nose! I guess svn is still relevant even after all these years! But actually I'd be curious to know

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers
Just an update with some new numbers, dan's changes brought down the time for a full clone from my home connection down to 5m48s (down from 27m39s previously) well done dan! --Ray On 2022-06-17 3:45 p.m., Dan McGrath wrote: > Just a heads-up that Ray and I took a packet capture on both ends for

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Dan McGrath via Bf-committers
Just a heads-up that Ray and I took a packet capture on both ends for me. Thanks to his capture, I noticed that the SVN server host was not sending TCP window scale or SACK options. Ultimately this turned out to be due to that host using the PF firewall "synproxy" state option, which apparently

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Chad Fraleigh via Bf-committers
On 6/16/2022 11:51 PM, Ankit via Bf-committers wrote: > Tom: > 1. Unlike SVN checkout, git checkout cannot be resumed. It starts >   over if interrupted. > 2. .git folder's size will blow up with every release. Git is not >   so good for binary files. Yes, plain vanilla git would be bad with

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers
=8<==[Editors note]=8<== I'll be honest I'm 100% convinced mailinator will ruin the little formatting I have done, I put a copy of this email on https://developer.blender.org/P3014. =8<8<8<8<== How much as I like the sentiment of "lets move to git will it solve all these problems"

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Jacob Merrill via Bf-committers
What about p2p? Can we have users seed lib downloads? On Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:11 AM Dan McGrath via Bf-committers < bf-committers@blender.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Really, I would need to see a capture from both sides to dig into it. I > need to see what is being sent, and what is received on each

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Dan McGrath via Bf-committers
Hi, Really, I would need to see a capture from both sides to dig into it. I need to see what is being sent, and what is received on each side. There could be some weird firewall stuff happening that is causing fragmentation or blocking TCP options, or window scaling issues, etc. As for the

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Tom M via Bf-committers
On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:20 AM Dan McGrath wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Long time no see :) > > I did some tests from home and found that, aside from slow speeds, I was able > to checkout at least 5 or 6 gig of the bf-blender repo without error or > having to retransmit. Yeah, looks like I was

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Dan McGrath via Bf-committers
Hi Tom, Long time no see :) I did some tests from home and found that, aside from slow speeds, I was able to checkout at least 5 or 6 gig of the bf-blender repo without error or having to retransmit. I took the liberty of packet capturing the stream from my PC's POV, and placed them in the ftp

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-17 Thread Ankit via Bf-committers
Tom: 1. Unlike SVN checkout, git checkout cannot be resumed. It starts over if interrupted. 2. .git folder's size will blow up with every release. Git is not so good for binary files. Chad: https://developer.blender.org/T73511 https://developer.blender.org/T73394 Cheers Ankit On 17/06/22

Re: [Bf-committers] move prebuilt libs from svn to git?

2022-06-16 Thread Chad Fraleigh via Bf-committers
I've been kind of wondering if they would eventually be migrated too. I only update my local libs occasionally, so it has a tenancy to fail if doing a large update spanning many revisions. Plus the benefit of not having to use two different tools. Now with Git LFS being more widespread, it