Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-20 Thread Lars Krueger
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:34:29 -0500 Von: Reuben Martin reube...@gmail.com An: bf-blender developers bf-committers@blender.org Betreff: Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond I don't know if this has already been discussed or not, but has

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
This is great. +1 for Brecht's 8-week release cycle. My only concern is whether some users might get confused about the release versions. I think that instead of having 2.58 as the last release, we should skip to 2.60, and make it the base release for the 2.6x series. This would make sense (I

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Carsten Wartmann
Am 13.03.2011 15:52, schrieb Brecht Van Lommel: Hi, [...] There's this dynamic which I think we should try to break: unstable features push back release dates, then after a while, core developers in other areas get impatient and add another unstable feature, which agains pushes things back

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Thomas Dinges
Big -1 for this, seriously let's not change the naming again! Ton and others decided on naming it 2.57 and 2.58 (Ton sent a mail with this in January to the ML). Let's stick to that! This is the n'th discussion about it on this list, and it starts to get annoying. ;-) Thomas Am 14.03.2011

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Gustav Göransson
I'm not a coder, but I guess one issue is to determine weather a branch is stable or not, and to know if it have been properly tested. Why don't do this in a more systematic, 'official' way than before: When a branch is getting near completion: 1. Set up a dedicated bug tracker for the branch,

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread raulf
We've been in some kind of freeze long enough now. Let's have fun for a while, and then try to fix it all up again :) -Ton- Those words are music for my ears :) Congratulations!!! Cheers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
Sorry. I had not realized that this was already set until today. I had figured we would be releasing 2.59 and then 2.60 and then working on new stuff, not finishing with 2.58. If I had known that I would have started protesting earlier. If we want to end with 2.58, then that's fine with me, I was

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-14 Thread Campbell Barton
+1 to brecht's proposal, big +1 to shorter fixed release cycles. -1 for discussions on details of point releases, just go with Ton on this one and focus on real issues :) On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote: Hi Brecht, I strongly believe we should switch to

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi. Will 2.57 have a stable API? Yes. But depends on definition of stable too. Is a matter of documenting it well. Most of it can be called stable and frozen, some parts might need bug fixes, and some parts are in WIP or unfinished. -Ton-

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
Hi, I think we should make major modifications to the release cycle, to avoid problems that we've been having with 2.5 and also releases before that. In my opinion a migration schedule for new features as we have done before does not work, because it's unpredictable when developers will be

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi Brecht, I strongly believe we should switch to short, fixed release cycles, and be much more strict in only accepting functionality in trunk that is reviewed and can be stabilized in a short time. Fully agree! :) -Ton-

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Martin Poirier
Double thumbs up from my end also. There's a lot to be said about stricter discipline for commits to trunk. Martin --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote: From: Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond To: bf-blender

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Tobias Kummer
+1 Here, sounds very reasonable! On 03/13/2011 03:52 PM, Brecht Van Lommel wrote: Hi, I think we should make major modifications to the release cycle, to avoid problems that we've been having with 2.5 and also releases before that. In my opinion a migration schedule for new features as we

Re: [Bf-committers] Roadmap for 2.5x - 2.6x - beyond

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Dinges
Hey, I completely agree with that and be happy that you bring it up now. :) This 8 weeks release schedule sounds good and doable. Our main problem was never the amount of new features, it was good testing and quality. Hopefully this will improve with such a new system. Very strong +1 Am