Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-15 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Oct 14, 2011, at 14:57 , Fischlin Andreas wrote: I guess you tested this with records where the doi is actually known? As a matter of fact, I did. It wouldn't have been much of a test, otherwise, would it? It took a while to find a way to search on DOI in the web interface, but I'm more

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-14 Thread Maxwell, Adam R
On Oct 12, 2011, at 08:47, Fischlin Andreas wrote: Searching a single publication through the doi might be fast, however, will work only for more recent publications I tried this briefly. It seems that searching WoS based on DOI is only allowed through the web interface, not SOAP, so we're

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-13 Thread Fischlin Andreas
AFAIK those services cost a lot. I do not see how that is compatible with an open source BibDesk. Regards, Andreas On 13/10/2011, at 02:35 , Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 17:29, Douglas Stebila wrote: On 2011-10-13, at 0:52, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: AFAIK,

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-13 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Oct 13, 2011, at 00:57 , Fischlin Andreas wrote: AFAIK those services cost a lot. I do not see how that is compatible with an open source BibDesk. I don't see what on earth you're talking about. We've supported Web of Science searching in BibDesk for several years, and many (most?) of

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-13 Thread Fischlin Andreas
I was talking only on the web scraping. That AFAIK costs a lot, e.g. http://www.automationanywhere.com/solutions/screenScrape.htm. But perhaps that's not an issue at all. Regards, Andreas On 13/10/2011, at 15:00 , Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Oct 13, 2011, at 00:57 , Fischlin Andreas wrote:

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-13 Thread Gregory Jefferis
On 12 Oct 2011, at 14:23, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 05:09 , M. Tamer Özsu wrote: I was simply wondering out loud how some of these other programs manage to extract the title/author/... data from the PDF files to at least attempt to generate some of this citation

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-13 Thread Fischlin Andreas
Indeed, I would support that suggestion. I have it on since years and never regretted (so far) ;-) Regards, Andreas On 13/10/2011, at 16:32 , Gregory Jefferis wrote: On 12 Oct 2011, at 14:23, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 05:09 , M. Tamer Özsu wrote: I was simply

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
Thank you. I'll study that. I wonder how programs such as Papers and Mendeley are able to extract that info from PDF files -- or do they not extract them from the PDFs? ==Tamer On 2011-10-11, at 11:20 PM, Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On Oct 11, 2011, at 14:16, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: Some PDF

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Fischlin Andreas
Hi Tamer Özsu, Look at the data you provided: file = {:Users/tozsu/Documents/Collected Papers/Proceedings Papers/EDBT/EDBT 2011/LID11(EDBT)\_a6-zaniolo.pdf}, This is AFAIK not a valid file path, e.g. it starts with a :. I guess Christiaan's word use 'junk' is more too often true than not.

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Fischlin Andreas
No, they often do not extract them from the pdf. They often search in the pdf for a doi and then provide the actual data from a provider such as ISI WOS or other data base sources. BibDesk does not do that. As a consequence you see in BibDesk how lousy the meta data in the pdf generally

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
HI Andreas, Thanks for this. As I noted in a separate response, the path was easy to fix, and I knew that -- what I didn't know was to set the default fields. Now the file shows up. The issue of importing PDF files was a separate question that I wondered about. I was not at all criticizing

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Oct 12, 2011, at 05:09 , M. Tamer Özsu wrote: I was simply wondering out loud how some of these other programs manage to extract the title/author/... data from the PDF files to at least attempt to generate some of this citation information. I now understand that Bibdesk does not do

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Oct 12, 2011, at 15:23, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 05:09 , M. Tamer Özsu wrote: I was simply wondering out loud how some of these other programs manage to extract the title/author/... data from the PDF files to at least attempt to generate some of this citation

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Douglas Stebila
On 2011-Oct-12, at 11:23 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: They do it by scraping information from the PDF, including the DOI. BibDesk can also do this, using the BDSKShouldParsePDFToGeneratePubMedSearchTerm hidden preference. I don't use it myself, since it only searches PubMed. Pretty

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Oct 12, 2011, at 07:17 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: Does WoS run well synchronously? All of the SOAP calls are synchronous; they use the WSGeneratedObj-sync runloop mode to block until results are available. As to whether it runs well...I guess that depends :). I thought that was the

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Douglas Stebila
On 2011-10-13, at 0:52, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: AFAIK, none of the screen-scraping sites in the web group are suitable for a query, unfortunately. You need a service such as PubMed or Web of Science with an actual API. Couldn't you visit the page defined by the DOI, and, if

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-12 Thread Maxwell, Adam R
On Oct 12, 2011, at 17:29, Douglas Stebila wrote: On 2011-10-13, at 0:52, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: AFAIK, none of the screen-scraping sites in the web group are suitable for a query, unfortunately. You need a service such as PubMed or Web of Science with an actual API.

[Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-11 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
I think I am doing something wrong and would appreciate any help. I thought it was possible to drag and drop a PDF file on the bibdesk library, but although the PDF is included as an entry, it has empty title (all the fields are empty in fact). I am dropping it to the top window when bibdesk is

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-11 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Oct 11, 2011, at 22:48, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: I think I am doing something wrong and would appreciate any help. I thought it was possible to drag and drop a PDF file on the bibdesk library, but although the PDF is included as an entry, it has empty title (all the fields are empty in

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-11 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
Some PDF files do have this information included as metadata that some programs are able to extract. I thought there might be a mechanism such as that, but I understand that there isn't. -- M. Tamer Özsu University of Waterloo (Currently on sabbatical leave at ETH Zürich) On 2011-10-11, at

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Importing PDF files

2011-10-11 Thread Maxwell, Adam R
On Oct 11, 2011, at 14:16, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: Some PDF files do have this information included as metadata that some programs are able to extract. I thought there might be a mechanism such as that, but I understand that there isn't. There is, but most of that metadata is junk. Look for

Re: [Bibdesk-users] importing pdf files

2010-08-07 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Dear Adam, Thank you for your reply and sorry for late reply. The way you suggested worked well! I shall add note here what I did: I changed all the strings in each entry from (JabRef form) File = {FILENAME.pdf:FILEDIRECTORYNAME/FILENAME.pdf:PDF}, to (BibDesk form) Local-Url =

Re: [Bibdesk-users] importing pdf files

2010-07-24 Thread Fischlin Andreas
Dear Masa, Find some AppleScripts that might do the job after only minor adjustments from my new BibDesk AppleScript website: http://se-server.ethz.ch/staff/af/bibdesk/index.html Regards, Andreas ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative

[Bibdesk-users] importing pdf files

2010-07-23 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Hi all, I'm a switcher from JabRef to BibDesk. If there are documentations for switching, let me know. (Of course, I searched it already. But I might be bad at it...) What I really want to do is liking the pdf files automatically, since I have .bib file which has a field called file which

[Bibdesk-users] importing pdf files

2010-07-23 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Hi all, I'm a switcher from JabRef to BibDesk. If there are documentations for switching, let me know. (Of course, I searched it already. But I might be bad at it...) What I really want to do is liking the pdf files automatically, since I have .bib file which has a field called file which

Re: [Bibdesk-users] importing pdf files

2010-07-23 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Jul 23, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Masahiro Takahashi wrote: I'm a switcher from JabRef to BibDesk. If there are documentations for switching, let me know. (Of course, I searched it already. But I might be bad at it...) What I really want to do is liking the pdf files automatically, since I