Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-03 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Sending from the correct email alias this time! On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 09:53, Greg Choules wrote: > Hi Greg. > Basically, you can't forward out of authority. If server A is > authoritative for "example.com" it is authoritative for that and > everything below that, ad infinitum, unless you tell

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Gregory Sloop
>Are you loading the parent domain and trying to zone forward a child domain on >the same DNS server? I.e. loading somedomain.local and trying to forward >ab.somedomain.local   Yup, exactly.   That solution was suggested by Jeff Sumner yesterday, but it seemed a little nuts to me (BIND behaving

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Ben Croswell
Are you loading the parent domain and trying to zone forward a child domain on the same DNS server? I.e. loading somedomain.local and trying to forward ab.somedomain.local If so an NS delegation is required in every instance I have done in my environment. The NS doesn't need to be "right" but it

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Gregory Sloop
Static-sub fixes the issue.   Any idea why static-sub works when forwarder doesn't?   (Again, the server is using recursion. Dig queries return the RA flag, so I know it's actually offering recursion in reality.)   I can live with static-sub just fine, since it works - but I'd really love to

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Gregory Sloop
This got held up in moderation. Let me repost it, from my regular mail client...     > You didn’t share much of your configuration except the one forwarded zone, > not a lot to go on.   Fair enough. (I guess I thought you could just infer all the needed information! Oops!) Let me try Ondrej's

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
Is static-stub something you are looking for? Reference documentation: https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9_18_0/reference.html?highlight=static-stub#zone-types And in human terms: https://jpmens.net/2011/01/25/binds-new-static-stub-zone-type/ Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 3/1/22 5:35 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you are right, forwarding queries requires recursion. Thank you for the confirmation Matus. :-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-03-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2/28/22 1:47 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote: I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the real experts! :) On 28.02.22 22:27, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: I'm definitely not an expert. I don't even pretend to be one on T.V. But I do wonder what, if any, sort

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 2/28/22 1:47 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote: I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the real experts! :) I'm definitely not an expert. I don't even pretend to be one on T.V. But I do wonder what, if any, sort of restrictions you are placing on recursion on your

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Crist Clark
You didn’t share much of your configuration except the one forwarded zone, not a lot to go on. But one thing to check, you do have recursion enabled on the server? On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:34 PM Gregory Sloop wrote: > Wow. I hate to be the guy who looks the gift horse in the mouth - but that

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Gregory Sloop
Wow. I hate to be the guy who looks the gift horse in the mouth - but that just seems "wrong." :)  (Not the answer, but that that would be the way BIND wants it done.)   So, now I've got two sets of NS and glue records?  Please tell me that's not the way BIND insists you do this!   I guess I

Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Jeff Sumner
Add Delegating NS records: ab.somedomain.local 3600 NS server1.ab.somedomain.local . . . And glue records server1.ab.somedomain.local 3600 A 10.0.0.1 . . And see if it works. It’s got something to do with the way the record is matched (or not) before the forward statement is hit. J > On

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-18 Thread Crist Clark
So why doesn’t it work to make your limited server authoritative for the root and only forward the zones you want? Anything that isn’t in a forwarded zone does not exist (except the root itself). On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 11:07 PM Marki wrote: > > On 4/14/2021 12:44 AM, Sebby, Brian A. via

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-13 Thread Marki
On 4/14/2021 12:44 AM, Sebby, Brian A. via bind-users wrote: My situation is due to a security requirement.  We have DNS servers at our site running BIND that allow recursion, but I’ve been requested to set up some additional DNS servers for another project that is expected to **only**

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-13 Thread Sebby, Brian A. via bind-users
rgonne National Laboratory From: bind-users on behalf of RK K Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 7:40 PM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?) Hello Marki, Matus, Thank you for the insights on this topic. Answering

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Tony Finch
Mark Andrews wrote: > > On 8 Apr 2021, at 00:37, Tony Finch wrote: > > > > Forward zones require the upstream server to be recursive too. > > More correctly, the upstream server has to serve the entire namespace being > forwarded if it does not off recursion to the client for forwarding to >

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread RK K
n replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of bind-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without > recursion?) (Chuck Aurora) >2. Re: forwarding zone setup

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread RK K
Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of bind-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?) > (RK K) >2. Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without > re

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Apr 2021, at 00:37, Tony Finch wrote: > > Chuck Aurora wrote: >> >> A stub or static-stub zone would not require recursion. In that case >> named is asking for authoritative data from upstream. But type >> forward zones indeed cannot work if recursion is disabled. > > Be careful

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Tony Finch
Chuck Aurora wrote: > > A stub or static-stub zone would not require recursion. In that case > named is asking for authoritative data from upstream. But type > forward zones indeed cannot work if recursion is disabled. Be careful in this kind of situation to be very clear about which client or

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Chuck Aurora
On 2021-04-07 03:59, Marki wrote: To elaborate a little bit on that... Indeed that is how it works, unfortunately. When you start using forwarders or stubs, recursion needs to be enabled because you're no longer looking for your own authoritative data only. A stub or static-stub zone would not

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Marki
Hello, On 4/7/2021 10:35 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 06.04.21 22:47, RK K wrote: In this scenario, in-order for the secondary server to forward the DNS query to an external DNS server, is it required to enable the recursion in the global options on the secondary servers? yes.

Re: forwarding zone setup from a BIND slave (without recursion?)

2021-04-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 06.04.21 22:47, RK K wrote: We have a set of BIND primary servers (MASTERs) and a set of secondary servers (slaves to the MASTERs). The secondary BIND DNS servers disabled recursion ( with "*recursion no;" *) in the global options. All the applications/systems do use secondary DNS servers for