Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-07 Thread Mark Andrews
In message barmar-dda2da.01122607052...@mara100-84.onlink.net, Barry Margolin writes: In article gtrqte$2in...@sf1.isc.org, Sam Wilson sam.wil...@ed.ac.uk wrote: In article gtrbsa$296...@sf1.isc.org, Mark Elkins m...@posix.co.za wrote: One place that TCP may make sense - if you

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-07 Thread Sam Wilson
In article gttqkl$ot...@sf1.isc.org, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote: In article gtrqte$2in...@sf1.isc.org, Sam Wilson sam.wil...@ed.ac.uk wrote: In article gtrbsa$296...@sf1.isc.org, Mark Elkins m...@posix.co.za wrote: One place that TCP may make sense - if you are

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:00:12AM -0400, Danny Mayer ma...@gis.net wrote a message of 39 lines which said: That's nonsense. That's Peter Dambier. If you try to fix every mistake he makes, you're not over soon... http://xkcd.com/386/ ___

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-06 Thread Mark Elkins
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:59 +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:00:12AM -0400, Danny Mayer ma...@gis.net wrote a message of 39 lines which said: That's nonsense. That's Peter Dambier. If you try to fix every mistake he makes, you're not over soon... Some

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-06 Thread Sam Wilson
In article gtr212$220...@sf1.isc.org, Danny Mayer ma...@gis.net wrote: Peter Dambier wrote: Hello Martin, since a major outage at my provider, dtag.de or Deutsche Telecom AG, I have trouble with f.root-servers.net. Sometimes dig ... +vc does help me to see f.root-servers.net.

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-06 Thread Barry Margolin
In article gtrqte$2in...@sf1.isc.org, Sam Wilson sam.wil...@ed.ac.uk wrote: In article gtrbsa$296...@sf1.isc.org, Mark Elkins m...@posix.co.za wrote: One place that TCP may make sense - if you are involved in a registry system and the process involves actually checking the information

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-05 Thread Peter Dambier
Hello Martin, since a major outage at my provider, dtag.de or Deutsche Telecom AG, I have trouble with f.root-servers.net. Sometimes dig ... +vc does help me to see f.root-servers.net. The real problem is anycast. With udp it behaves different than with tcp. When querying servers that are

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-05 Thread Traynham . Ken
Please explain:With DNSSEC tcp is almost a must. Same with IPv6.Is EDNS0 not

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-05 Thread Peter Dambier
Date: 05/05/2009 05:31AM Subject: Re: tcp versus udp Hello Martin, since a major outage at my provider, dtag.de or Deutsche Telecom AG, I have trouble with f.root-servers.net. Sometimes dig ... +vc does help me to see f.root-servers.net. The real problem

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-05 Thread Danny Mayer
Peter Dambier wrote: Hello Martin, since a major outage at my provider, dtag.de or Deutsche Telecom AG, I have trouble with f.root-servers.net. Sometimes dig ... +vc does help me to see f.root-servers.net. The real problem is anycast. With udp it behaves different than with tcp.

tcp versus udp

2009-05-04 Thread Martin McCormick
When are tcp dns queries necessary? It was my understanding that clients could user tcp or udp. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-04 Thread Eduardo Júnior
Hi, On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.eduwrote: When are tcp dns queries necessary? It was my understanding that clients could user tcp or udp. According to what I read, dns queries are executed using udp Only zone transfers use tcp

RE: tcp versus udp

2009-05-04 Thread Baird, Josh
In addition, TCP is used for queries 512bytes. Josh From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf of Eduardo Júnior Sent: Mon 5/4/2009 8:35 PM To: Martin McCormick Cc: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: tcp versus udp Hi, On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-04 Thread Matt Baxter
On May 4, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: When are tcp dns queries necessary? It was my understanding that clients could user tcp or udp. When a response can not fit in a single UDP packet the server will mark the truncated flag (and respond with all the data it

Re: tcp versus udp

2009-05-04 Thread Ben Croswell
Also if EDNS0 is in effect theoretically the max size would be 4096 bytes before a truncate happened. -- -Ben Croswell On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.eduwrote: Matt Baxter writes: When a response can not fit in a single UDP packet the server will mark