Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread SM
At 22:11 24-01-2009, Al Stu wrote: Some people seem to think RFC 974 creates a standard which prohibits the use of CNAME/alias in MX records. But very much to the contrary RFC 974 demonstrates that CNAME/alias is permitted in MX records. RFC 974 is obsoleted by RFC 2821; the latter is

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
RFC 2821 is much more recent and clearly documents in sections 3.5 and 5 that CNAME MX RR are permitted and are to be handled by SMTP MTA's. 3.6 Domains Only resolvable, fully-qualified, domain names (FQDNs) are permitted when domain names are used in SMTP. In other words, names that can be

Re: reverse lookup to CNAME

2009-01-25 Thread John Bond
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Why don't you just use normal reverse DNS: zone for 1.1.1.in-addr.arpa 1 IN PTR metis.local. IN PTR bob-www-sol-l01.local. I read there were problems having 2 PTR records for the same ip. I know its in the RFC but

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread SM
At 00:44 25-01-2009, Al Stu wrote: When a domain name associated with an MX RR is looked up and the associated data field obtained, the data field of that response MUST contain a domain name.That domain name, when queried, MUST return at least one address record (e.g., A or RR) that

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 25-Jan-2009, at 03:44 , Al Stu wrote: When a domain name associated with an MX RR is looked up and the associated data field obtained, the data field of that response MUST contain a domain name.That domain name, when queried, MUST return at least one address record (e.g., A or

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jan 25 2009, Al Stu wrote: RFC 2821 is much more recent and clearly documents in sections 3.5 and 5 that CNAME MX RR are permitted and are to be handled by SMTP MTA's. 3.6 Domains Only resolvable, fully-qualified, domain names (FQDNs) are permitted when domain names are used in SMTP. In

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
No I do not believe an extra step was added. Take the following example for instance. STMP server smtp.xyz.com. needs to send a message to some...@xyz.com. An MX lookup is performed for domain xyz.com. and the domain name of mx.xyz.com is returned. This is the first sentence: When a

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
Yes, blah was supposed to be srv1. I do receive both the CNAME and A records for the A mx.xyz.com query. See attached capture file. In the capture file three global search and replacements were performed to match the previous example. 1) domain name was replaced with xyz 2) server name

Re: Unified Root - Domain Configuration Issue

2009-01-25 Thread Doug Barton
Joe Baptista wrote: So a little more testing using firefox as an application gives us some interesting results. Using the .TM TLD I entered http://tm/ into my browsers. It did not work. Firefox replaced http://tm/ with http://www.tm.com/ - which is not the web site I wanted to reach. In

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 25-Jan-2009, at 13:15 , Al Stu wrote: Yes, blah was supposed to be srv1. I do receive both the CNAME and A records for the A mx.xyz.com query. See attached capture file. In the capture file three global search and replacements were performed to match the previous example. 1)

Re: reverse lookup to CNAME

2009-01-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: if metis.local is a CNAME, the PTR shouldn't point to it. On 25.01.09 10:14, John Bond wrote: could you please explain this. Although it's good to remove irelevant part of the text you are replying to, this

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
No it is only two steps, see the attachment (sent in previous message). Both the CNAME and A record are returned for the mx.xyz.com DNS A request. And this does met the RFC requirements. - Original Message - From: Matthew Pounsett m...@conundrum.com To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc:

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Alan Clegg
Al Stu wrote: ISC’s message that a CNAME/alias in an MX record is illegal is incorrect and just an attempt by ISC to get people to go along with what is only a perceived rather than actual standard/requirement, and should be removed so as not to further the fallacy of this perceived

BIND 9.6.0-P1 on windows server 2008 32 bit hangs

2009-01-25 Thread Kobi Shachar
Recently I upgraded my bind machine to a new windows 2008 server web edition 32 bit with 2 E5420 quad core CPU's. The server is configured with about 7000 master zone files. Since the upgrade, BIND hangs every 5-10 hours. I checked the logs and I saw these lines on the default log:

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Hills
Perhaps one day MX records can be deprecated entirely in favor of SRV. Jabber got it right, and it would solve the e-mail server autodiscovery problem for clients in a generic non-proprietary manner. For example:- _smtp-server._tcp for servers, _smtp-client._tcp for clients.

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jan 25 2009, Chris Hills wrote: Perhaps one day MX records can be deprecated entirely in favor of SRV. Jabber got it right, and it would solve the e-mail server autodiscovery problem for clients in a generic non-proprietary manner. For example:- _smtp-server._tcp for servers,

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Mark Andrews
MX records are supposed to be pointed to the name the mail exhanger knows itself as. This will correspond to a A record. If I could work out a way to determine which A records don't correspond to the name by which the mail exchanger knows itself as I'd

Re: Unified Root - Domain Configuration Issue

2009-01-25 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 497cae4b.4020...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: Joe Baptista wrote: So a little more testing using firefox as an application gives us some interesting results. Using the .TM TLD I entered http://tm/ into my browsers. It did not work. Firefox replaced http://tm/ with

DNS LAN/WAN confusion

2009-01-25 Thread Alt Rock
Hi all, thanks in advance for any help. It is greatly appreciated. I'm struggling a bit with setting up master and slave name servers. My goal is just to run my own name servers for mydomain.com.  I am not concerned at all with any internal DNS configuration. There are no workstations or

Re: BIND 9.6.0-P1 on windows server 2008 32 bit hangs

2009-01-25 Thread Danny Mayer
Kobi Shachar wrote: Recently I upgraded my bind machine to a new windows 2008 server web edition 32 bit with 2 E5420 quad core CPU's. The server is configured with about 7000 master zone files. Since the upgrade, BIND hangs every 5-10 hours. I checked the logs and I saw these lines

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article gli8nu$ja...@sf1.isc.org, Matthew Pounsett m...@conundrum.com wrote: In the example above, when I query for IN A mx.xyz.com? I do not get an address record back (A, )..instead I get a CNAME record. Requirements NOT met. Then there's something wrong with your resolver,

Re: Unified Root - Domain Configuration Issue

2009-01-25 Thread Doug Barton
Mark Andrews wrote: In message 497cae4b.4020...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: Joe Baptista wrote: So a little more testing using firefox as an application gives us some interesting results. Using the .TM TLD I entered http://tm/ into my browsers. It did not work. Firefox replaced

RE: BIND 9.6.0-P1 on windows server 2008 32 bit hangs

2009-01-25 Thread Kobi Shachar
Yes, I tried to downgrade to 9.50 p2 and the problem was there to. It's is looks like a bug on windows 2008 machine, isn’t it? Also, you can see that there is 8 lines of the same messages. Each for 1 core CPU. -Original Message- From: Danny Mayer [mailto:ma...@gis.net] Sent: Monday,

BIND 9.4.x vs 9.6.x - pid-file check and creation

2009-01-25 Thread Jan Arild Lindstrøm
Hi, I was going to upgrade from BIND 9.4.3 to BIND 9.6.0-P1, but run into a strange bug in BIND 9.6.0-P1. Exact same config for 9.4.3 and 9.6.0-P1, only added new to files that are written to (namednew.log, confignew.log and namednew.pid). OS: Solaris 10. Using: pid-file