[Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
First of all I apologice due to the possible mistakes in my writing below, I am not a Bitcoin developer but I have some knowledge about it. We all know the recent news, Ghash pool controlling 51% of the hashrate. While some consider it a threat others think that is not harmful. The thing

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Mistr Bigs
I have been surprised by the lack of discussion of this topic here! On 6/17/2014 10:57 AM, Raúl Martínez wrote: We all know the recent news, Ghash pool controlling 51% of the hashrate. While some consider it a threat others think that is not harmful. The thing is that we have to do something to

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Ron Elliott
In this scenario how do you ensure the miner solving the block cannot reapportion the subsidy to himself rather than the pool? On Jun 17, 2014 2:09 AM, Raúl Martínez r...@i-rme.es wrote: First of all I apologice due to the possible mistakes in my writing below, I am not a Bitcoin developer but

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
Because he cant change the coinbase once the proof of work is done. El 17/06/2014 15:58, Ron Elliott ronaldbelli...@gmail.com escribió: In this scenario how do you ensure the miner solving the block cannot reapportion the subsidy to himself rather than the pool? On Jun 17, 2014 2:09 AM, Raúl

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Ron Elliott
as I understood your proposal the entire block would be created on the miner rather than just the block header. Currently miners do not receive a list of transactions, they receive information required to create the block header, this is how you keep miners honest. if the miner is creating the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Isidor Zeuner
quote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate is supposed to solve most of the pooling-centralization problems. Unfortunately, it is opt-in, and GHash.io doesn't support it. Also most miners don't care and don't do the work to set it up. To do transaction inclusion themselves, they'd

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Karel Bílek
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Christophe Biocca christophe.bio...@gmail.com wrote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate is supposed to solve most of the pooling-centralization problems. This. There is no need to create anything new when GBT already exists. In my opinion.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
But miners dont want to run full nodes, its better to develop some SPV like that connects to some nodes. Also I believe that stratum mining protocol improves some performance things that GBT lacks. If a new protocol that requires blocks created by miners is developed and named in a cool way,