I would like to chime on on the user experience of the SPV client (in
particular MultiBit).
Without exception, everyone that I have introduced Bitcoin (which is a lot
of people) have expected an instant-on experience. It has to clobber
PayPal and credit cards or people won't give it a second
I was under the impression that connectedness was the real metric of
concern
I think the real thing we need full nodes for is sockets where by
socket I mean resources needed to serve another node.
Last year we actually ran out of sockets and it took forever for new
nodes to connect because so
On 5 December 2012 19:43, Gary Rowe g.r...@froot.co.uk wrote:
I would like to chime on on the user experience of the SPV client (in
particular MultiBit).
Without exception, everyone that I have introduced Bitcoin (which is a lot
of people) have expected an instant-on experience. It has to
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote:
The alternative, I guess, is to make Bitcoin-Qt have an SPV mode. I'm
not convinced this is the best use of time, but if somebody steps up
to do it, that could also work.
I strongly believe that if community leads with client
Alan's UTxO meta-chain proposal becomes vastly easier to do now that
ultraprune is merged. That would allow the Satoshi client to know it's
wallet balance and operate with a =SPV level of security during the
initial block download, and keep them on the path of becoming a full node.
If users can
...or should we be directing people to a (vetted) list of cloud services -
I think this has a significantly lower entry cost than any client. I know
the mybitcoin debacle has clouded (pun intended) people's views of these
providers, but blockchain.info (for example) really does seem quite well
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Mark Friedenbach m...@monetize.io wrote:
Alan's
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UTxO meta-chain proposal becomes vastly easier to do now that
ultraprune is merged.
No, not really. Somewhat easier due to some structural changes, but it
still needs to invent and get consensus on a
It sounds to me that you're insisting that you're asking people who
oppose degrading our recommendations to commit to a costly rushed
development timeline. I think this is a false choice.
Hardly. I don't have any particular timeline in mind. But I disagree
we have forever. New ideas have a
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote:
It sounds to me that you're insisting that you're asking people who
oppose degrading our recommendations to commit to a costly rushed
development timeline. I think this is a false choice.
Hardly. I don't have any particular
Jim, perfect idea with some logo indicating wallet compatibility! This
should cover BIP32 + some mnemonic algorithm for easy transferring of
wallets across various clients.
Btw I asked ThomasV for making BIP from his mnemonic algorithm and he
agreed, so I believe some proposal will be here pretty
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Alan Reiner etothe...@gmail.com wrote:
Greg's point looks like it's veering towards we don't want to grow
the network unless we're going to get more full nodes out of it.
No…
There is no fundamental completion between taking what actions we can
to maximize the
Our divergence is on two points (personal opinions):
(1) I don't think there is any real risk to the centralization of the
network by promoting a SPV (purely-consuming) node to brand-new users.
In my opinion (but I'm not as familiar with the networking as you), as
long as all full nodes are
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Alan Reiner etothe...@gmail.com wrote:
Our divergence is on two points (personal opinions):
(1) I don't think there is any real risk to the centralization of the
network by promoting a SPV (purely-consuming) node to brand-new users.
In my opinion (but I'm not
Gavin's grandma needs to be able to use bitcoin. Here is a real world
sampling of the types of people wanting to use bitcoin but are having some
difficulty which I have collected from Facebook. Should we listen to the
end user? :-P
*what is the intention of Bitcoin? Is it supposed to be -
Jim,
Most of those issues don't have to do with the SPV versus non-SPV problem.
First person doesn't understand what Bitcoin is supposed to do (he's
confusing mining and running a node). An information problem that could be
solved by explaining what is going on.
Another one seems to have a
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