Sorry to hear about the large loss. We don't have a dog either. But find that fireworks work really well to scare off the coyotes when they start howling really close. The loud noise bothers them but we have found that dogs and especially dogs that are used buy hunters and around gun fire are not afraid. These are the dogs that kill for fun and leave and don't eat. Normally the coyotes will gut and eat the heart & liver if nothing else and then come back to finish it the next night if you leave it out there. It is the season like you said for momma's to train their pups. They coyote hunters won't even let there dogs out because the mommas are so mean this time of year they don't want their dogs tore up. Now is when we need them! Oh well, at least you have your dog and hopefully she won't come after him. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
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Today's Topics:

  1. Sad day (William Buchanan)
  2. Re: Sad day (GARLAND STAMPER)
  3. Re: Sad day (Gail Winnick)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:08:21 -0500
From: "William Buchanan" <bkbu...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Blackbelly] Sad day
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
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Hello all,

Last night, as with all July 4ths, we brought our Anatolian in to sleep in
the basement. He stresses out over the fireworks so we give him the night
off. Besides, we haven't lost a sheep or seen any signs of coyotes in ages.

Well, this morning we awoke to a field of dead sheep. At first I suspected
dogs, wild or otherwise, due to the number of dead. But upon inspection, I
determined this was done by a mother and her pups. Apparantley July is the
beginning of the "training period" for coyotes pups. Every single dead sheep
had small teeth marks on their throat or small puncture wounds on the
throat. Not one sheep had a single stray bite anywhere else on their body.
All the dead were a year old or younger, no adults killed. The most common
victims were ramlambs born last fall. All were text book coyote kills, the
only thing that confused me was not a single one was eaten or even cut open and of course, the number killed, 15. I had never heard of a coyote killing
more than one sheep at a time, but after researching it, I have learned
differently. They must have struck at daybreak. We got up and let the house
dog out to use the bathroom and noticed the sheep gathered in a tight ball
in the front pasture and very worried looking. We also noticed a young lamb
staggering across the pasture. I went up the slight rise to get a better
look and saw the dead bodies littering the pasture. All the bodies were very warm, the small amount of blood looked very fresh, no flies, and a few were
still barely alive, drawing their last breath.

I am still in a state of shock.

Chris Buchanan



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:32:06 -0700
From: "GARLAND STAMPER" <gstamper97...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sad day
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
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Chris,

OMG...I am so sorry and also shocked at the enormity of the attack.  How
senseless!

Thank goodness your adults are alive.  We don't have a sheep dog, but our
flock is very small only 25 lambs and adults, so our elec fence and the
neighbor dogs on all sides so far have kept ours safe.  Coyotes are
opportunistic predators...glad your dog can go back out and do  his job.
Sounds like he is doing a really good job!

Again, my condolences.

Beth in central OR



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:49:35 -0400
From: "Gail Winnick" <hearts...@acd.net>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sad day
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
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Oh my gosh Chris.  I'm so sorry.  Just when you think you're doing a
good/nice thing.  I would have never thought that after having the dog out
all the time before that they'd come at the first chance either.

Gail


----- Original Message ----- From: "William Buchanan" <bkbu...@bellsouth.net>
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:08 PM
Subject: [Blackbelly] Sad day


Hello all,

Last night, as with all July 4ths, we brought our Anatolian in to sleep in
the basement. He stresses out over the fireworks so we give him the night
off. Besides, we haven't lost a sheep or seen any signs of coyotes in
ages.

Well, this morning we awoke to a field of dead sheep. At first I suspected dogs, wild or otherwise, due to the number of dead. But upon inspection, I determined this was done by a mother and her pups. Apparantley July is the
beginning of the "training period" for coyotes pups. Every single dead
sheep had small teeth marks on their throat or small puncture wounds on
the throat. Not one sheep had a single stray bite anywhere else on their
body. All the dead were a year old or younger, no adults killed. The most
common victims were ramlambs born last fall. All were text book coyote
kills, the only thing that confused me was not a single one was eaten or
even cut open and of course, the number killed, 15.  I had never heard of
a coyote killing more than one sheep at a time, but after researching it,
I have learned differently.  They must have struck at daybreak. We got up
and let the house dog out to use the bathroom and noticed the sheep
gathered in a tight ball in the front pasture and very worried looking. We
also noticed a young lamb staggering across the pasture. I went up the
slight rise to get a better look and saw the dead bodies littering the
pasture. All the bodies were very warm, the small amount of blood looked
very fresh, no flies, and a few were still barely alive, drawing their
last breath.

I am still in a state of shock.

Chris Buchanan
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