[blackbelly] Barn Mascot

2005-10-26 Thread Barb Lee
Question: I have a wether. He is out of my bb ram and his mom is a 1/2 bb and 1/2 wooly. He is the barn mascot but we have problems with him have the runs a lot. He is wormed. Eats what the others get, etc. No one else, including his mom or uncle have the runs. Has anyone come upon this

[blackbelly] Basic H question (Stephanie Jones)

2005-11-09 Thread Barb Lee
Passion! VBG! Sorry Carol, couldn't resist - BBSAI has a ripper of a newsletter! :o) Regards, Barb Lee (BBSAI Newsletter Editor!) ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info

[blackbelly] About those bedding pellets - And Sweet PDZ

2005-11-13 Thread Barb Lee
Well, that little experiment didn't work. When I went out to feed the little lounge lizards this morning, I discovered that I had totally underestimated their throughput capabilities...there are as many sheepie berries in the bedding as there are wood pellets after only one night! Well, it

[blackbelly] Cecil

2005-11-13 Thread Barb Lee
Oh my goodness Cecil, your story trumps anything I have to offer! :o) I hope I never have to try out for the lambing olympics like that! Barb ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at

[blackbelly] Dispersal Sale

2006-03-05 Thread Barb Lee
About 20 head registered/registerable American Blackbellies. Rams, ewes, lambs, wethers. Mostly young stock. All or nothing, $200. Located in Oregon City, OR Contact Barb, 503-631-2862 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ This message is from the

Re: [blackbelly] constipated lamb

2006-03-06 Thread Barb Lee
Julie, go to the pharmacy and pick up a kid's Fleet enema for him. He may just be a little clogged up. Barb - Original Message - From: JULIE RIHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re:

[blackbelly] Breeding American Blackbellies

2006-04-14 Thread Barb Lee
ram within the year, hopefully within a day or two's drive of Portland, OR, and would love to share notes with others. Thanks and best regards, Barb Lee lee @ccwebster.net (omit the space) ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit

[blackbelly] Am. Blackbelly Ewe Lamb for Sale

2006-04-15 Thread Barb Lee
for producing quality American Blackbelly lambs. She is a soft fawn color, totally breed standards compliant, excellent hair coat, good bone, and correct bite. She is in excellent health and all health management is up to date. She is yours for $85. Will register. Contact Barb Lee, lee

[blackbelly] I Should never attempt...

2006-04-16 Thread Barb Lee
To show off my mathematical prowess publicly! :o) The lamb ewe lamb for sale gained avg. .36/day, which is .04 below our selection criteria. Otherwise I think the statistics are correct! :o) Thanks! Barb, the mathematically challenged ___ This

Re: [blackbelly] Immunities/was colostrum feeding

2006-05-15 Thread Barb Lee
Living with horses predisposes my stock to tetanus. Having watched a horse die of lockjaw, this is not a risk I will take. This next bit got me heckled off another sheep list, but I'll take a chance here. I went through a very difficult period with the sheep which extensive research revealed

Re: [blackbelly] colostrum feeding

2006-05-15 Thread Barb Lee
My vet told me that Covexin-8 is a real injection-site abcess maker, so keep an eye out. We quit using it and just went with CD-T Barb - Original Message - From: Paul Renee Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:03 PM Subject:

Re: [blackbelly] Reluctant Butcher

2006-05-15 Thread Barb Lee
Sue, Ted is sharpening the knife!! How come you're not hoppin' in there! VBG! Just kidding! I still run and hide for the actual shot, but after that, I was all over it. Bob got me a special little skinning knife with a replaceable blade, which I hope is sharpen-able. It certainly did an

Re: [blackbelly] Butchering

2006-05-16 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Terry, Yes, it is a remote temperature controller. You stick a temperature sensing bulb inside the fridge/freezer and plug the freezer into the control unit which sits outside the freezer. It overrides the temp controller in the freezer. I think it is designed for beer lovers who convert

Re: [blackbelly] butchering

2006-05-16 Thread Barb Lee
Glad to hear your freezer worked well for you. I have a question though. We have an older upright freezer that just wasn't keeping his 'animals' that needed to be mounted frozen enough. It would still cool but not keep them froze. Would that 'freezer tamer' gadget work in an upright

[blackbelly] Sheep Genetics for Dummies

2006-05-22 Thread Barb Lee
is selecting their American Blackbelly breeding stock for all the desirable breed characteristics as well as improving gains and creating greater uniformity within their flocks. My e-address is lee@ ccwebster.net (omit the space). Regards, Barb Lee

Re: [blackbelly] scrapie testing/Johnes Long

2006-05-27 Thread Barb Lee
I got sort of heckled off the Shedders list for bringing up mineral imbalances as causes for certain health problems. I got scoffed at because I might be reading Pat Coleby's books on natural animal care. Well, I do read Pat Coleby and she was the one who alerted me to the lack of copper in

Re: [blackbelly] thistle

2006-05-27 Thread Barb Lee
soil in balance, generally the specific weed problem will take care of itself. Regards, Barb Lee - Original Message - From: Nancy Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: [blackbelly] thistle We have a field

[blackbelly] Making Soap

2006-05-27 Thread Barb Lee
Last week, when we butchered our first lamb, I stupidly threw out all that snow white visceral fat with the innards. However when cutting and packaging, I got a brain and saved what was left. Rendered, it ended up being 3 pounds of pure tallow - three pounds of grain, grass, hay and a year's

Re: [blackbelly] Mineral Mix

2006-05-29 Thread Barb Lee
Sue, Supplementing with copper is playing with dynamite and you HAVE to know the copper status of your living animals before you attempt it. Copper will accumulate in the liver undetected possibly for years, and then suddenly wash into the bloodstream, killing the animals. Copper deficiency

[blackbelly] Breeding Programs

2006-05-30 Thread Barb Lee
Waxing philosophical here, and not being contentious or argumentative. The ability to produce more than one litter of lambs per year is one of the priceless genetic gifts our blackbellies come equipped with. It is necessary in some production models such as accelerated lambing and is part of

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-21 Thread Barb Lee
I think it would probably mean death to earthworms and dung beetles too. Maybe fly predators would be a solution worth considering. Barb ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-22 Thread Barb Lee
Julian, can you quote your source? How could DE cut up internal worms and maggots, and not earthworms or dung beetle larvae? I am not challenging you, I'd just like to read it from the source. Thanks, Barb - Original Message - From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [blackbelly] lameness

2006-07-25 Thread Barb Lee
Terry, I had a ewe that frequently came in 3-legged lame. She was very prone to hangnails - always breaking the hoof wall off above the sole. I trimmed her and in a couple of days she went sound again. She did this several times. During wet times it is also not uncommon for my sheep to come

[blackbelly] Proud of My Boy!

2006-07-30 Thread Barb Lee
Was taking pics today and got a nice one of my upcoming young ram, Blacklocust Dancer. I posted the pic at http://www.picturetrail.com/gid6650228 The young ewe, Prancer, is his sister. (Yes, they were born close to Christmas, as were Comet and Cupid!) Regards, Barb Lee

Re: [blackbelly] RE AB w/Dorper Corn/Silage/Hay/Pasture Diets

2006-08-01 Thread Barb Lee
' diet. Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [blackbelly] RE AB w/Dorper Corn/Silage/Hay/Pasture Diets

2006-08-01 Thread Barb Lee
Sheep require a range of 8-12 ppm copper in their diet. Dietary molybdenum should be in the range of 6-10 ppm copper to 1 ppm moly. Higher ratios of molybdenum bind with copper and make it unavailable to the animal. Our feed/forage is averaging about 3 ppm copper with a copper/moly ratio

[blackbelly] Browsers/Grazers

2006-08-04 Thread Barb Lee
Mark, your observation about browsers is astute, but I would apply a slightly different logic. Some of the goat websites I've read are so hysterical about cocci that they demand breeders remove all kids from their mothers immediately they are born, and rear them artificially. It's widely

[blackbelly] Pictures

2006-08-19 Thread Barb Lee
://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6650228 Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [blackbelly] lavendar fed lamb?!?

2006-08-23 Thread Barb Lee
A friend of mine in Australia knows someone who finishes his lambs on lavendar and says it's the finest lamb on the planet (don't we all). If you want to ask him more, he'll be happy to talk to you I'm sure. Name is Rob Johnson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell him Barb Lee sent you. Regards, Barb

[blackbelly] Wormers

2006-08-25 Thread Barb Lee
I have fairly substantial proof that parasites in my sheep are immune to Ivomec. Have one group of animals with a fairly heavy parasite challenge at the moment. Despite 2 oversized doses of Ivomec drench within a week of each other, watched egg counts actually rise. Have tried the Basic H

Re: [blackbelly] Wormers

2006-08-25 Thread Barb Lee
No, Chris, other than I have finally managed to identify the oocysts. My vet didn't believe I could with home equipment, but you can, quite readily, with a 400 power microscope. If the eye registers the haemonchus egg at 1/4, the coccidia oocyst would register at about 16th inch, so it is

[blackbelly] Home Fecals/McMasters Slides

2006-08-26 Thread Barb Lee
Gotta tell ya, once you get set up to do them, home fecals have got to be the world's cheapest entertainment! VBG! I have just learned how to use the McMasters Slides, which I've owned for two years. They make it S much easier, not to mention considerably more scientific. I have been

[blackbelly] Little Stuff

2006-09-12 Thread Barb Lee
of pleasant equilibrium. A few lambs due around the 22nd. That is always something to look forward to. Hope everyone's had a great summer. Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-08 Thread Barb Lee
. This is a pretty specific skill, and of course his knives are as sharp as surgical instruments. Barb Lee I have a couple of unusual questions today. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http

[blackbelly] New Farm Website

2006-10-08 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Everybody, I got bold and decided to take a stab at building a little website for our farm. I would like you all to visit! Please go to http://www.blacklocustfarm.net Thanks! Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit

[blackbelly] Use for Blackbelly Hair was Re: hide tanning

2006-10-11 Thread Barb Lee
is interested in pursuing it. Oh, and there really IS a substantial draft horse and driving horse equipment market, not just among the Amish. I imagine it would take QUITE a lot of deer hair to stuff a 36 sweat pad. Regards, Barb Lee erstwhile harnessmaker

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-11 Thread Barb Lee
Wow, that *is* a pretty specific skill... I'd have to see it done many times before I'd be confident to try it. He could probably sell an instructional video to homesteader types. I have a hard time separating the skull from the spine when they're dead, let alone still breathing. I

Re: [blackbelly] Taste and Butchering now Cholesterol

2006-10-11 Thread Barb Lee
sword. I've been wanting to do this for some time. Believe it would take lamb from several farms to be meaningful. Thanks! Anyone else? Regards, Barb Lee - Original Message - From: Cecil Bearden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, October 11

[blackbelly] Cuts of Lamb/Oneta

2006-10-12 Thread Barb Lee
lamb, which is incredibly versatile! Sometimes we have part of it made into breakfast or Italian sausage, and when we do more home butchering I plan to try some sausage making. Can't get enough ground lamb! Whatever you decide, you are in for a treat! :o) Barb Lee

[blackbelly] Making Jokes about Bad Presentations was Re: Young ram, again...

2006-10-13 Thread Barb Lee
Here's one... Vet came out to help a friend pull a backwards calf with the hind legs sticking out. His comment was, Jeez, how fast was the little sucker running when he hit her?? Barb L. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit

[blackbelly] Castrating a Mature Ram

2006-10-14 Thread Barb Lee
fellow, not nasty at all. He would be very nice for someone else's flock, but for reasons that make perfect sense to me, I prefer to keep him, but I can no longer use his genetics. If it would be too hard on him though, I'll have to rethink my plan. Thanks, Barb Lee

[blackbelly] Sign of the Times and Sustainability

2006-10-19 Thread Barb Lee
I read in the newspaper yesterday that our noble government is about to bless cloned meat and dairy for your dinner table. I don't know about you, but the thought of it sent me spiraling into fits of nauseous revulsion. You think NAIS is bad? Wait until all you get on your plate is patented

Re: [blackbelly] Sign of the Times and Sustainability

2006-10-19 Thread Barb Lee
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/cloning_petitionPR10.12.06.cfm Barb L. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [blackbelly] Average daily gain in blackbelly sheep

2006-11-07 Thread Barb Lee
parasite infestation. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm Registered American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net - Original Message - From: Carol Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: [blackbelly

[blackbelly] Winter Strategies

2006-11-24 Thread Barb Lee
and the sheepies and horses will all get a shot at some nice warm water twice a day. Hope everyone's staying warm and dry. We are toppling rainfall records here in W. Oregon. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net

Re: [blackbelly] lamb processing

2006-12-04 Thread Barb Lee
I did not get the original message. Cecil, is there any chance you could send to me privately? Thanks! Barb Lee After reading your posting, I can see why we've put this off so long! Peg Haese in cold SW Wisconsin USA --- Cecil Bearden wrote: I just thought I would let you all be amused

[blackbelly] Hanging Lamb

2006-12-13 Thread Barb Lee
there will be any advantage to aging a blackbelly lamb anyway. We butchered a yearling wether last month and hung him overnight. Tastes marvellous. Something to seriously think about. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net

[blackbelly] Long term antibiotics was Re: Poor Bailey

2006-12-15 Thread Barb Lee
I just had a mature ram surgically castrated. The vet said that though it usually wasn't necessary, it wouldn't hurt for me to give him a long acting antibiotic - LA-200 - at 5cc per hundred pounds. One shot only. I offer that just as an alternative to daily antibiotics. Wish I'd had the

[blackbelly] Brix and Grass Quality

2006-12-23 Thread Barb Lee
during the growing season - it should be able to help make decisions about when to supplement the feed without just wasting money willy nilly. I am also keen to see the results on veggies grown in a well mineralized garden soil. Regards, Barb Lee

Re: [blackbelly] Brix and Grass Quality

2006-12-24 Thread Barb Lee
- Original Message - From: helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Brix and Grass Quality Barb Lee; How much did the Brix refractometer cost? If you don't mind my asking. WOW! This is something

[blackbelly] Mastitis Prevention

2007-01-16 Thread Barb Lee
Just picked up a tidbit from Stockman Grassfarmer magazine on animal health, written by an organic vet. He says that it's been shown that in dairy cows, a shot of selenium 3 days before freshening and on dry-off day has a powerful antibacterial effect and helps ward off mastitis. A shot of

[blackbelly] Record Keeping

2007-01-17 Thread Barb Lee
such comparison I have been able to make, and the statistics become a permanent part of each ewe's record. This is all very empowering when it comes to selecting breeding stock! I am very excited to see what this year's crop will produce. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm American Blackbelly

Re: [blackbelly] Performance Record Keeping

2007-01-18 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Mark, Great stuff! You have had a lot more time to work on these issues than me, and what you relate makes me believe my goals are reasonable and achievable. And your experience with ram lambs mirrors my own, too; that they can be everything you want rolled into one little package at

Re: [blackbelly] Record Keeping

2007-01-18 Thread Barb Lee
report for duty! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Lee Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:32 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Record Keeping Mark, This is purely conversational, so don't think

[blackbelly] Lamb Weights, Ram Pens, Etc.

2007-01-27 Thread Barb Lee
that technique with the next bunch of lambs. Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [blackbelly] Lamb Weights, Ram Pens, Etc.

2007-01-27 Thread Barb Lee
I am cautious about making judgments on breeding stock at 120 days using ADG. Some lamb operations are feeding 3 pounds of corn per lamb per day to achieve their ADG. The hay is fed out just enough to keep the lamb from scouring. I feed grain as a supplement to the hay, not the other

Re: [blackbelly] Lamb Weights, Ram Pens, Etc.

2007-01-27 Thread Barb Lee
and water it takes to keep the ewes fat and thriving. Now, add that thriftiness to a ewe that's weaning 70-80 pounds of lamb at 8 weeks and you have the ideal small ruminant for the small grass based farm. Best regards, Barb Lee ___ This message

[blackbelly] Second and Third Year Winter Coats

2007-02-11 Thread Barb Lee
Does anyone ever see a change in the amount of winter wool a blackbelly will put on as it matures? Thanks, Barb L. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

[Blackbelly] Thoughts on Finishing Lambs

2007-09-28 Thread Barb Lee
near your animals at slaughter time, if it is at all possible to avoid it. I have a couple of other things to share, but this has rambled on long enough. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm Registered American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net

Re: [Blackbelly] Finishing Lambs: The Abbatoir

2007-09-28 Thread Barb Lee
By happy mischance (long story), I ended up finding an elderly Mexican gentleman who happens to work part time at the local butcher shop. He is happy to come on-farm to do the slaughter and charges $15 for kill, skin, and dress. This was basically the method used for the hands on harvest,

Re: [Blackbelly] FW: Safe Handling of Horned Rams

2007-09-30 Thread Barb Lee
I sure appreciate the replies on handling rams. And ALSO the info on disbudding lambs! Uck uck uck! Those little horns can be a nuisance, but there will be no smoking little noses around here! :o( I guess what I was after when I asked about handling rams, was information about some sort of

[Blackbelly] The Lamb Tram

2007-10-07 Thread Barb Lee
A multi-tasking guard donkey! http://mfrost.typepad.com:80/cute_overload/2007/10/packin-lambs.html Barb L. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] dying lambs

2007-10-21 Thread Barb Lee
I don't think I've seen clostridium - overeaters disease mentioned. My apologies if I missed something. Kills the biggest and best lambs quickly and apparently without a lot of symptoms. Good luck to you. I've screamed into my pillow many times over the mysterious loss of sheep, but this

[Blackbelly] Montmorillonite Clay

2007-10-21 Thread Barb Lee
I first ran across this item in an article by a holistic DVM in Stockman Grass Farmer magazine. It was an excellent series of articles on the importance of minerals. He said he couldn't create a holistic herd health program without a product such as this. That's a pretty broad statement, but

Re: [Blackbelly] DE

2007-10-29 Thread Barb Lee
I have to wonder if you really can't OD sheep on DE (still smarting from my surprise lesson about clay!!) Lot of silica in DE, no? Talking to the guy at the lab where I send my forage samples...he told me that he was testing some Central Oregon hay that was suspected of killing some

[Blackbelly] Diatomaceous Earth and the Boys

2007-11-03 Thread Barb Lee
I've been giving my two rams DE on their grain ration in the amount of 1/2 teaspoon each per day now for four days. I have no idea how much others feed. The boys each get about one cup per day of COB with molasses, and the 1/2 teaspoon is more than enough to powder-coat their ration. At the

Re: [Blackbelly] Diatomaceous Earth and the Boys

2007-11-04 Thread Barb Lee
Well, day five on DE at 1/2 tsp each per day, and the EPGs were 400-550. I'm sorry to say that I can't see any detectable result from feeding that amount; perhaps I need to feed more? Half a teaspoon is a lot of dust, and while I realize that the DE doesn't create a chemical reaction, I worry

[Blackbelly] Updated Website

2007-11-05 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Folks, Would like to invite you to visit our recently updated website (address below) - mostly the What's New page. Thanks! Barb Blacklocust Farm Registered American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net ___ This message is from the

[Blackbelly] Free Sheep

2007-11-06 Thread Barb Lee
Anybody within hailing distance of Oregon City OR want a free ewe? Two years old, small, sheds late but completely, had a nice big (first) lamb last year that was very tasty, but fat for a blackbelly, and missed breeding this year (definitely not her fault). Barb Lee

Re: [Blackbelly] Out of Season Breeding

2007-11-07 Thread Barb Lee
Thanks Mark, I do know of some blackbelly flocks that lamb seasonally, despite running with the ram year round. I was thinking that if a person was in the midst of a personal breed improvement program (such as myself), that some effort would want to be made to deliberately breed out of season

Re: [Blackbelly] Out of Season Breeding

2007-11-07 Thread Barb Lee
Mark, Western Oregon is a very temperate climate...we may get one or two days above 90 by July, and from what I've read, 90 degrees is where the fetus really starts suffering heat stress. I'll confess we had a bizarre lambing season this year, but I don't think it had anything to do with the

[Blackbelly] Minor Miracle!

2007-11-12 Thread Barb Lee
Did I ever get a surprise today! I didn't exactly plan it this way, but I knew that my 12 month old ewe lamb was preparing to give birth. Last night I locked her little mob up near the barn. This morning we awoke to a howling gale. I went down to feed the sheep and horses and everything

Re: [Blackbelly] How Many Ways Can You Say AAAGH!!!

2007-11-16 Thread Barb Lee
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Lee Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:03 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [Blackbelly] How Many Ways Can You Say AAAGH!!! So we have this ridiculously long, drawn out lambing that should have ended in mid-August, right

[Blackbelly] Thanksgiving Dinner

2007-11-18 Thread Barb Lee
Woo hoo! Gonna have us some Jamaican Jerked Leg o' Blackbelly ala BBSAI Lamb Lover's Cookbook, some dirty rice, a tropical fruit salad, and maybe a mud pie for dessert, and what rum doesn't go in the lamb marinade will...uh...be poured down the drain??? :o) Barb L.

Re: [Blackbelly] seeking opinions about Animal Welfare Institute

2007-11-19 Thread Barb Lee
AM beginning to smell some possibilities with the high level of activity in a certain breed assn lately! :o) Barb Lee ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] Thanksgiving Dinner

2007-11-19 Thread Barb Lee
As for our dinner...Sally and Bob Gibson invited us over for the traditional turkey do!! We all went to the NW Circuit Finals Rodeo yesterday and had a nice afternoon. You're having turkey do for thanksgiving dinner? LOL! I'll pass! No, we're not actually celebrating thanksgiving,

[Blackbelly] Prolific?

2007-11-20 Thread Barb Lee
. I'm not thinking of one or two outstanding individuals, but tendencies of any flock to produce large litters of lambs. I'd also be curious for curiosity's sake, whether folks are going out of their way to produce triplets + Thanks, Barb Lee

Re: [Blackbelly] Prolific?

2007-11-21 Thread Barb Lee
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Lee Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:12 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [Blackbelly] Prolific? Do folks out there generally feel that blackbellies fall into the prolific category, with such breeds as Finnsheep? That would mean producing

[Blackbelly] N'ewes

2007-11-25 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Cecil, Yes, I can see where excess body fat in a pregnant blackbelly would be a big problem, because most of the fat is in the body cavity. I know I've belabored my situation here, but our grass is just not (yet) strong enough for anything but maintenance at any time of year, so I'm

[Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth

2007-11-25 Thread Barb Lee
The rams reported in this morning with five H. Contortus eggs, 250 eggs per gram. That is negligible. They are getting 1/2 tsp DE per day (that's actually a lot of dust on a small grain ration), and were moved to a paddock that had been rested for 30 days. Could be also, that the worms are

Re: [Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth

2007-11-26 Thread Barb Lee
for it!!! Terry W --- Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rams reported in this morning with five H. Contortus eggs, 250 eggs per gram. That is negligible. They are getting 1/2 tsp DE per day (that's actually a lot of dust on a small grain ration), and were moved to a paddock that had

Re: [Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth

2007-11-26 Thread Barb Lee
what he uses for that-- he also does everything as naturally as possible. HAs some pretty nice looking animals to show for it, too. Terry W --- Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I AM getting a positive on cocci in the lambs though and I haven't seen much here on alternative cocci control

Re: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control

2007-11-28 Thread Barb Lee
Hi Terry, Great stuff. The biggest problem with cocci for me at the moment is right inside the barn. Add to that, the need to keep the sheep off the pasture and in sacrifice areas for just the part of the year that favors cocci (in my particular program). Even though the paddock the lambs

Re: [Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth

2007-11-28 Thread Barb Lee
Thanks Dayna, Hopefully something a little less expensive is available. I am holding off until the Basic H comes...the lambs are not clinical and may be getting enough nutrition to be able to deal with the cocci without treatment, since they should be developing an immunity by this time. Barb

Re: [Blackbelly] some interesting articles on parasite control

2007-11-28 Thread Barb Lee
Thank you for those links, Terry, especially the second one. Barb - Original Message - From: Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: [Blackbelly] some interesting articles on parasite control

[Blackbelly] lThe D.E. Drama Continues

2007-11-29 Thread Barb Lee
to the freshly rested paddock on 12/1. It will be very hard to get them consistently less wormy than they are right now. Will keep you all posted. Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http

[Blackbelly] Then there's the cocci situation...

2007-11-29 Thread Barb Lee
Well, huh... The cocci count in the lambs has crashed to nearly zip. Three weeks ago I checked and the lambs were pretty heavily peppered with cocci oocysts, but nobody was clinical (diarrhea). I did a five-day Corid treatment which dropped the count to almost zero. Then about a week ago,

Re: [Blackbelly] Then there's the cocci situation...

2007-11-29 Thread Barb Lee
Well, I'm probably not as smart as I thought I was (surprise surprise!) LOL! Reading up on a good cocci article showed me that essentially, the lambs actually were clinical, they just handled it without scouring. In some cases, apparently the animal does not start to shed oocysts until 5-7

[Blackbelly] The Nose Gets Fixed, Now the Mouth Don't Work

2007-11-30 Thread Barb Lee
to do is convince them that BP is an Edible Substance. Corn gluten meal and distiller's dry grains are non-starch energy supplements. I just don't know how available they are. Guess I'll have to start checking the feed mills. Barb Lee In snowy Western Oregon where the paper is predicting

Re: [Blackbelly] The Nose Gets Fixed, Now the Mouth Don't Work

2007-12-01 Thread Barb Lee
Well Tracy! If you can get those little prima donnas to eat soaked beet pulp, so can I! LOL! I've made up a worksheet for this ration balancing act - even got through the calcium/phosphorus ratio! And it's just awful...If I were to go by the book I'd be feeding these little monkeys over

Re: [Blackbelly] Grain Rations (was The Nose Gets Fixed...)

2007-12-02 Thread Barb Lee
- Original Message - From: Tracy Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Grain Rations (was The Nose Gets Fixed...) . I also would not consider offering that much grain to hair sheep. In

[Blackbelly] Balancing Rations

2007-12-03 Thread Barb Lee
I know you're all thinking I'm a complete nutcase over this ration balancing thing. I think I can vindicate myself. First of all, I have made many grevious errors in ration calculations in the past, primarily from giving too much credit to my pasture's ability to grow sheep. The place is

[Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-09 Thread Barb Lee
their digestion is different.) we should be able to fashion our breed into an excellent breed for the burgeoning grassfed market. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust Farm Registered American Blackbelly Sheep http://www.blacklocustfarm.net ___ This message

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-09 Thread Barb Lee
that were bedded down in the straw I put under a low shelter. I just left it there did not want to disturb them. It was fine this morning. Cecil in OKla Barb Lee wrote: Now that I've got all smart (haha!) and learned how to balance rations, I've been making some interesting

[Blackbelly] The Litmus Test

2007-12-09 Thread Barb Lee
Oh, now here's an interesting tidbit harvested from this month's Stockman Grass Farmer...Get some litmus paper for your medicine chest. Rumen pH should be between 6.4 and 7.0. Fresh manure has the same pH as the rumen. So if your sheep seems sick, you can press the litmus paper into some

[Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs...

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
energy. It is taking some effort to get the lambs to accept B.P. Once they're consuming it readily, I'll give it about 30 days, then we have a runt we'll butcher and give it the taste test. Something tells me we're definitely on the fast track to 100% grassfed now. Regards, Barb Lee Blacklocust

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
average about 45 lb. with a .35 pound average daily gain from birth, .05 less than the minimum I would like to see. Some are over, some are under. There are nine lambs. Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs...

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
if you feed grain - they will stop eating hay and wait for the grain and not eat hay until they are really hungry - they gap in eating hay changes the rumen - it all makes sense to me. Nate --- Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be I'm just seeing things, but the lambs are cleaning up

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-11 Thread Barb Lee
it will have to sustain the sheep the majority of the year without purchased feeds. Maybe I am way behind the learning curve here, but if nothing else, this is keeping me humble. Regards, Barb Lee, whose lambs suddenly seem ravenous for hay

Re: [Blackbelly] Re. Feeding Trivia

2007-12-11 Thread Barb Lee
PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:17:35 -0800 From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info The lambs are beginning to accept beet pulp. I will have shredded B/P on Wednesday (my sheep show a marked

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