Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-07 Thread Dave Andrus
Michael, I have three female Llamas and one Akbash...love all of them...teh dog does bark and the Llamas are about the easiest and cheapest keeper guard animal I have. Dave -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] farming on crutches?

2012-08-02 Thread Dave Andrus
They also make metal cleats for crutches for people in the Colorado ski country that flip up and down if you have any slippery or hilly ground Mary Swindell mswin...@siu.edu wrote: Carol, You could go to a surgical supply company and ask to see their catalog. As for how to use it on uneven

Re: [Blackbelly] Can we trim horns? (Follow up)

2012-07-07 Thread Dave Andrus
A trained and experienced dog with a equally trained and experienced human is a great combination!!! Until the finances, training and experience are in place some 4 way in a 1and 1/2 gallon bucket with a familiar shepherds call can bring a flock of sheep in as long as they are in ear shot.

Re: [Blackbelly] Rejected lambs

2012-05-16 Thread Dave Andrus
Great post Mary! If I may, I would make two additional suggestions...use a finger nail file with a diamond surface I'd you need to adjust the teeth ( dentists use diamond surface burrs to fringe on teeth because they are more comfortable for the patient and tooth ) and a quick , easy and

Re: [Blackbelly] lamb disappeared

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Andrus
I've had what most likely was a coyote or coyotes take a Turkey weighing 15 to 20 lbs from my place. Not with fencing as tight as yours. Jerry blueberryf...@bellsouth.net wrote: A 2 day old ABB lamb, one of a twin pair, has disappeared. There is no sign of intruders, no hair, no bones, no

Re: [Blackbelly] Tired of losing sheep to coyotes

2011-09-09 Thread Dave Andrus
Llamas have worked well for me I have three classic hair llamas so I don't have to shear them and have enjoyed watching them chase coyotes off of my property on two occasions. They can be very inexpensive if not free, easy keepers and mine love to eat fruit left overs from my hand. Dave

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Economics

2011-03-03 Thread Dave Andrus
John, I have sheep, chickens, mini Hereford cattle, full size cattle( one that had twins a week ago) and llamas to guard the sheep and have never realized a financial profit. I rest easy knowing the quality of the food my fine feathered, furry, hairy and woolen friends provide along with the

Re: [Blackbelly] Polled Barbados Blackbelly Rams for Sale

2010-10-17 Thread Dave Andrus
HI Liz. Just wanted to see how the little girls are doing now and to report Miracle (their momma) called at the man gate a couple times after you guys left and went back to eating and has been fine ever since. By the way you gave me far too much credit on your blog for my photo skill. You

Re: [Blackbelly] dog training questions

2010-08-25 Thread Dave Andrus
With dogs, children, horses,etc...it is all the same...we get more of the behavior that is rewarded. For me I almost always find myself to be my worst enemy. Dave KATHI SEAMAN hot4d...@earthlink.net wrote: The stay is simply a training issue. Dogs really aren't stubborn they just do what is

Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle babies Day 2

2010-08-05 Thread Dave Andrus
Tom, thanks for the update I have wondered about your babies throughout the day. Dave Tom Quinn cars1...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to thank everyone for the quick and helpful responses. I was so shocked--went by the sheep pen at 5:30 yesterday evening and there they were! The 2 little guys are

Re: [Blackbelly] More ram lambs than ewe lambs

2010-08-05 Thread Dave Andrus
Our wolf sheep all had twins a ram and a ewe with the ewes all being born first...our hair sheep had seven lambs five rams and two ewes. Dave Curtis Yeschke cyesc...@peoplepc.com wrote: I'm in southwest Texas and had about two ewe lambs compared to the 10 plus ram lambs this past winter. I

Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Andrus
Tom, are you sure she does not have any milk? We had a ewe that bagged up, had her twins but would not let them nurse. IT turns out it must have hurt her when the lambs tried to nurse to the point she would walk away. What I did is hold her against the wall in the jug while helping the lambs to

Re: [Blackbelly] New Here!

2010-06-16 Thread Dave Andrus
Hi Krystal, We have had sheep for only two years and this forum has been invaluable as we had NO previous AG expetiance and moved to the country from the suburbs of Denver! I would also suggest if I may a couple things we have found very helpful to invaluable as well. A basic how to book on

Re: [Blackbelly] treats for taming

2010-06-12 Thread Dave Andrus
Liz, give me a call. Dave 303-929-7677 Liz Radi lizr...@skybeam.com wrote: Personally, I would be very concerned about feeding herbivores anything with animal by products in it. It has caused troubles in the past. Now, what I give my goats is salted peanuts in the shell. They love them for

Re: [Blackbelly] Sheepdog Trainer near Denver

2010-05-05 Thread Dave Andrus
Thank you very much Tom Ill give him a call. Dave - Original Message - From: Tom Quinn cars1...@yahoo.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [Blackbelly] Sheepdog Trainer near Denver Dave: Cappy Pruett is located in Ft Morgan. I

Re: [Blackbelly] Possible temporary fences for herding?

2010-05-02 Thread Dave Andrus
Tom, have you considered starting the training process with ducks? This Is what most dog training books digest. Dave Tom Quinn cars1...@yahoo.com wrote: I have just finished a new corral for my sheep. Next I plan to build a training pen to work the Border Collies. Until I get the permanent pen

Re: [Blackbelly] Training pen

2010-05-02 Thread Dave Andrus
Carla, does your boyfriend know anyone. In the Denver Colorado area who trains Austrailan sheep dogs...or any one on the list for that material? I have a great one year old who IA just itching to heard but I would like to start her correctly. Carla Amonson chicki...@yahoo.com wrote: Not that

Re: [Blackbelly] Shepherds tactics

2010-03-27 Thread Dave Andrus
In a discussion this morning some one told me they had heard that a tactic used by shepherds with lambs that continuously ran off was to break a leg and carry the lamb so the lamb could not/would not run away for the period of time the leg was healing. During the healing time the

Re: [Blackbelly] New to group

2010-03-24 Thread Dave Andrus
Hello Liz, Welcome to the forum, I am also relatively new to the group and have been helped greatly by many here. Where is Nunn Colorado? I live in Byers Colorado which is 25 miles east of E-470 off of I-70. Dave - Original Message - From: Liz Radi lizr...@skybeam.com To:

Re: [Blackbelly] Lame Ram

2010-03-12 Thread Dave Andrus
It could also be as simple as his momma steped on his hoof I had that happen ( as far as I could tell) and the Lamb was fine in about five days. Dave GARLAND STAMPER gstamper97...@msn.com wrote: Tom, Check his hoof...are there an breaks or tears?? How about between his toes?? Sometimes

Re: [Blackbelly] Shepherd's crook

2010-03-11 Thread Dave Andrus
, 2010 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Shepherd's crook Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:59:54 -0700 From: Dave Andrus I am looking for a shepherd's staff Dave, I made a couple of crooks out of 1/2 ID electrical conduit, My fave tool for cornering and safely subduing wild sheep

Re: [Blackbelly] shepherds Staff

2010-03-10 Thread Dave Andrus
I am looking for a shepherd's staff that is a good quality, long lasting and highly functional (the real thing, not a decoration) and would appreciate any and all input on where to find good ones, what I should expect to pay, any suggestions for sheep/handling related to a staff/crook, or

Re: [Blackbelly] CDT shots

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Andrus
Julian My primary concern is any negative effect on the lams or ewes because of the ewes getting the shot too close to laming time. Do you know if there can be bad effects to the lams/ewes or just the potential of the lams not getting the full effect? Thanks, Dave - Original Message

Re: [Blackbelly] CDT shots

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Andrus
the shots to the ewe before breeding then the lamb within 24 hrs after birth. Any input will be appreciated. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Andrus andruscompan...@netecin.net To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] CDT

Re: [Blackbelly] CD/T Shots

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Andrus
1/24/2010, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:39:18 -0700 From: Dave Andrus andruscompan...@netecin.net To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] CDT shots Message-ID: 7de90efdb2214ca6af860b0537a74...@sharolyn Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset

Re: [Blackbelly] CDT

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Andrus
I am very much a novice agrarian of only three years and have much to learn and have no problem taking correction or suggestions from any one but I believe I am starting to see a pattern with many of the vaccinations and allot of the miscellaneous supplements I see advertised with sheep,

Re: [Blackbelly] Lambing kit on a budget

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Andrus
Ok, my next novice question... I have been reading about putting together a lambing kit...it seems if I purchase everything in the book I could have a couple hundred dollars into it and may only need a small number of those items. At the risk of not being prepared for every possibility what

Re: [Blackbelly] CDT shots

2010-01-23 Thread Dave Andrus
My ewes are going to start to lamb in about 30 days is it too late to give them CDT shots? TIA, Dave ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-14 Thread Dave Andrus
Thanks to everyone for all the helpful input!!! I can already see things I have done wrong in trying to treat my ram like a dog instead of a ram. A mistake I will not make again and great tips for a successful future with my little friends. The character traits from one animal to another

Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-12 Thread Dave Andrus
Thanks Carol, I have a few questions and appreciate your observations...they make good sense. *** Carol writes Generally it is a good idea to segregate the rams, keeping them with ram lambs or perhaps a wether. Dave asks.. Is it a good

Re: [Blackbelly] Aggressive Ram

2010-01-12 Thread Dave Andrus
regarding: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:11:36 -0700 From: Dave Andrus andruscompan...@netecin.net Garland, 1)Are you saying that all rams are not aggressive and some can be kept with the flock all year round. I was told that it is always a good idea to keep a ram segregated from

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbellies VS Wool sheep

2009-12-25 Thread Dave Andrus
Beth, Thanks for the reply, I looked it up on the internet and it doesn't really seem too difficult if we are just eating it ourselves. A table, few other key items and a winch and it seems that is about it. What do you use to wrap it in? Dave - Original Message - From: GARLAND

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbellies VS Wool sheep

2009-12-24 Thread Dave Andrus
WOW Beth, Your own butchering, how did you get started doing that and what kind of equipment do you need? Dave - Original Message - Dave, Live weight for our jr. rams is between 110 and 120 lbs. The meat yield is about 40 lbs. Since we do all of our own butchering...this is

Re: [Blackbelly] Welcome Dave

2009-12-22 Thread Dave Andrus
Wolf) 2. Re: welcome Dave (Dave Andrus) 3. Re: welcome Dave (GARLAND STAMPER) 4. Re: welcome Dave (Dave Andrus) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:53:04 -0600 From: Crystal Wolf crystalw...@windstream.net To: Blackbelly

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbellies VS Wool sheep

2009-12-22 Thread Dave Andrus
Beth, Can you tell me off the top of your head what the average weight of your BBs are at the time you butcher them? Dave - Original Message - From: GARLAND STAMPER gstamper97...@msn.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:28 PM Subject:

[Blackbelly] New subscriber

2009-12-21 Thread Dave Andrus
Hello everyone my name is Dave, I am a new subscriber, with five wool sheep and have enjoyed them. We are looking forward to learning more about and obtaining hair sheep in the near future. Dave ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing

Re: [Blackbelly] welcome Dave

2009-12-21 Thread Dave Andrus
Thanks for the welcome Crystal, I am a self admitted rookie at the agricultural life (three years and not my primary income) but love it and enjoy all my outside friends a bunch.. Dave - Original Message - From: Crystal Wolf crystalw...@windstream.net To: Blackbelly digest

Re: [Blackbelly] welcome Dave

2009-12-21 Thread Dave Andrus
Hello Beth,. Thanks for the welcome, I am on the high (about 5350 ft above seal level) plains of Colorado about 45 minutes east of Denver. My primary interest in black bellies is to have hair sheep to either add to my existing flock (of two years) or replace my wool sheep. While I love the