Re: [Blackbelly] taste of lamb

2014-04-07 Thread Rick Krach
Carol, this is the first time I've heard of a 3-year age put on good-tasting meat. Is that for real cuz I've never tried lamb over 13 months. Secondly, would this only apply to your Barbados Blackbellies or possibly the American Blackbellies, too? And finally, what does the meat taste like

Re: [Blackbelly] taste of lamb

2014-04-07 Thread Carol Elkins
Hi Rick, Yes, I've butchered 2- to 3-year-old rams and they taste fine. The connective tissue in the older rams gets pretty tough, so I generally have the older animals put into ground meat rather than steaks. There is no magic butcher age; I guess a lot depends on the ram's diet and

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-11 Thread Barb Lee
Wow, that *is* a pretty specific skill... I'd have to see it done many times before I'd be confident to try it. He could probably sell an instructional video to homesteader types. I have a hard time separating the skull from the spine when they're dead, let alone still breathing. I

Re: [blackbelly] Taste and Butchering now Cholesterol

2006-10-11 Thread Barb Lee
, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Taste and Butchering now Cholesterol I have read all the reports on lamb and the saturated versus unsaturated fats, cholesterol numbers and all the data on wooled lambs. Then I read the purported, and reported, and opinions on the fat content

[blackbelly] Taste and Butchering

2006-10-10 Thread Bonnie Wilkening
Thank You for everyone's input on taste and butchering. We have 6 unregistered sheep. We were told 4 Ewe Barbado, 1 Ewe Blackbelly I could have registered-- and 1 Sakota Ram. The Sakota -No papers --is a blackbelly mixed to get horns and size. Don't know the other mixture. You have been

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-10 Thread Stephanie Parrish
Thanks Julian. Sounds as if a skilled operator can cut the jugulars and effect a quiet, relatively humane death which results in good-tasting meat not tainted by adrenalin. At least, that seems to have been Carol's experience. I have always thought that bleeding to death was supposed to be

Re: [blackbelly] taste

2006-10-09 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Hi Rick, It is understood in the hair sheep world that Dorper are not a pure hair breed. Indeed, the description on the OK site says, The Dorper is an easy care breed which requires a minimum of labor. Its skin covering which is a mixture of hair and wool, will drop off if not shorn to keep it

[blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-09 Thread RAYMOND C ZANE
A few years back when I was in sheep in Oregon. We had the Aribbra spelling come to are place to buy there sheep and the butcher the right on the place we set it all up for them and they just lay them down and said a belssing over them and cut there throat and bleed them. They gave some

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-09 Thread Julian Hale
At 11:27 AM 10/8/2006, Stephanie Parrish wrote: Carol, Does he just cut the blood vessels? Or is he severing the spine(?) which I think would be difficult to do quickly, even with a very sharp knife. Does he cut the windpipe as well? Stephanie He's probably just cutting the jugular. It most

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-09 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:07 AM 10/8/2006, Barb Lee wrote: Rick, The last time the custom slaughter guy was out here, he did not shoot the animal, but instead simultaneously cut its throat and broke its neck. Death was instantaneous. I couldn't watch but Bob did and he said the animal never twitched, unlike

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-08 Thread Cecil Bearden
Rick: What y ou described is typical of bleeding to death. The reason for shooting them in the head is that it stops the central nervous system reaction and stuns or paralyzes the animal prior to draining the blood from the body. When you cause the bleeding to death syndrome you allow the

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-08 Thread Barb Lee
Rick, The last time the custom slaughter guy was out here, he did not shoot the animal, but instead simultaneously cut its throat and broke its neck. Death was instantaneous. I couldn't watch but Bob did and he said the animal never twitched, unlike being stunned by a rifle first. This is a

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-08 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Hi Rick, My experience is similar to Barb Lee's. This past year I've been able to use the services of an experienced on-farm slaughter person. I calmly catch up the sheep and hold it while the man quickly slits the throat using a very sharp knife. The sheep quietly bleeds to death, and the

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-08 Thread Rick Krach
Thank you, Cecil. What you wrote is what I feared. I have always used a mallet before butchering rabbits and know that others ring their necks. I will surely never attempt to simply bleed an animal to death again. It's a shame I have learned this now from experience and didn't know it ahead

Re: [blackbelly] taste

2006-10-08 Thread Rick Krach
Hi Carol, You refered to the Dorper as a non-hair sheep breed so I copied the OK State info here which says that they are a hair breed, as are the St. Croix. How come you were thinking differently? And have you really not tasted the American Blackbelly? If what my friend is telling me is

[blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-07 Thread Rick Krach
I have a couple of unusual questions today. First one is about butchering lambs, actually the killing of them. For years I have always shot them before cutting their throats, but yesterday I tried just holding the lamb and having a friend slit his throat. I was so surprised to see that it