Re: [blfs-dev] Reverting my work

2014-02-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 2/25/2014 2:20 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: Rev 12783 has reverted what I had done for guile. I am curious why: I had suppressed instructions for building pdf docs (using texlive!), and simplified instructions to build and install html and txt doc, but had not changed anything else (I had

Re: [blfs-dev] Reverting my work

2014-02-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 2/25/2014 5:26 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 25.2.2014 23:54, Randy McMurchy wrote: Though I strongly disagree with your decision to remove the docs, the more important part of your commit is removing the work done by another editor without discussion. Another editor went to the trouble of adding

Re: [blfs-dev] discussion about sendmail

2014-02-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 2/25/2014 10:43 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: That said, I don't have strong opinions about whether it is in the book or not. I would like to see it back in the book. As Bruce mentioned, Sendmail has a background unlike most other software. The current version still is usable and works fine. There

Re: [blfs-dev] Which one is dependency: libwww-perl-6.05 or LWP::Protocol::https?

2014-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/20/2014 8:58 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I have installed LWP::Protocol::https, using cpan -i, then libwww-perl-6.05 got installed: snip But it is a dependency of libwww-perl-6.05, if you want the LWP installation to support the HTTPS protocol, so, I assumed, after it was

Re: [blfs-dev] Which one is dependency: libwww-perl-6.05 or LWP::Protocol::https?

2014-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/20/2014 10:00 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: May be it is difficulty from a non-English native. If you are saying that the sentence means to be installed after LWP, I would then rephrase it to: After the LWP installation, if you want HTTPS protocol support, install: ... But may be

Re: [blfs-dev] libidn and dev note

2014-01-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/14/2014 6:41 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: The point (or the dumb question, forgive me for not knowing much about this) is: although it is easy to see whois is linked to libidn, I cannot notice any difference with or without. Would you an example, please? With an example, I would come

[blfs-dev] Mesalib dependencies

2014-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Listed as recommended dependencies for Mesalib is as such (current SVN book): Recommended elfutils-0.157 (required for radeon 3d drivers), libvdpau-0.7 (to build VDPAU drivers), LLVM-3.3 (required for radeon 3d drivers and also for llvmpipe which is intended to be the fastest of the

[blfs-dev] Nitpick with Shadow Package

2013-12-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Looking at the BLFS Shadow package instructions, there is a command and descriptive text for disabling the Korean and Chinese man pages. However, this is not done in LFS. Seems the two books would be consistent as far as which man pages are installed. Thoughts? -- Randy --

Re: [blfs-dev] Proposal of patch to correct bad URL

2013-12-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/11/2013 3:47 AM, Igor Živković wrote: On 2013-12-10 21:15, Denis Mugnier wrote: Hi, For the french translation of BLFS, I check the URLs in the book. I found some bad URL, so I propose a patch to correct it. It is a first patch, another come when I have time ;o) Thanks, fixed at

Re: [blfs-dev] Patch for wireshark [Was: ... r2748 - trunk/wireshark]

2013-10-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 10/19/2013 8:45 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Added: trunk/wireshark/wireshark-1.10.2-packet_gluster_duplicate_enums-fix-1.patch First time I needed to add a directory for the patch. Please, tell me if there are more commands to do it in patches. It should all be fine. An automated

Re: [blfs-dev] NSS

2013-04-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 4/4/2013 9:29 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I never noticed it, before. In make, there seems to be switches for system zlib to be used and linked. Is zlib a Required Dependency? Zlib is installed in LFS, so it is expected to be installed and no need to list it as a dependency. -- Randy

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-support] About audacious-plugins-3.3.3-libcdio_v0.90_fixes-1.patch

2013-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thanos Baloukas wrote these words on 03/03/13 02:18 CST: On 03/03/2013 02:14 AM, Thanos Baloukas wrote: Hi IIRC, the last time I installed audacious-plugins-3.3.3, the dependency on libcdio-0.83 was enough for audacious to be able to play music CDs. Now on another system with libcdio-0.90,

Re: [blfs-dev] New package: DMD

2013-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 03/03/13 09:45 CST: I've attached a patch which would add the page - you may want to have a look to it and feedbacks would be appreciated. The following is just my opinion and does not necessary reflect the ideas of everyone. Just sort of how it's always been

Re: [blfs-dev] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 02/27/13 13:57 CST: Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: If you did that as the root user, then the package is broken. They use their own install script as opposed to the system's install. I ran across this a long time ago, probably when system XUL

Re: [blfs-dev] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
CC'd to BLFS-Dev On 2/24/2013 2:39 PM, Thanos Baloukas wrote: Hi I installed Xulrunner-18.0.1/Firefox-18.0.1 today. Xulrunner installed most directories and files under unprivileged user's ownership. If no one else has noticed that, then I must have done something wrong. You did nothing

Re: [blfs-dev] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/24/13 17:26 CST: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:52:25PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: I will include commands to change ownership to root:root when I update the book to the 19.0 version. Please fix my heinous if you have chosed (preferably, to ...chosen) when

Re: [blfs-dev] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/24/13 17:38 CST: Randy, I 'm not 100% sure the problem is in the tarball. Many times I'll do make DESTDIR=/tmp/pkgname install and the user will be me, not root. If you did that as the root user, then the package is broken. I see it very, very, rarely.

[blfs-dev] Question about lm_sensors

2013-02-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, In the lm_sensors instructions, there is a parameter that can be added to the make command to build sensord. Here is the description: PROG_EXTRA=sensord: This parameter enables compiling sensord, a daemon that can monitor your system at regular intervals. Compiling sensord requires

Re: [blfs-dev] JSON-C commit

2013-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 02/20/13 06:10 CST: It has been a while since I done an update to the book. I think I just did a commit to the book in relation to JSON-C, but something does not look right. It seems that the local version I have has missing entries in the changelog for

Re: [blfs-dev] JSON-C commit

2013-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/20/13 06:37 CST: Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 02/20/13 06:10 CST: It has been a while since I done an update to the book. I think I just did a commit to the book in relation to JSON-C, but something does not look right. It seems that the local

Re: [blfs-dev] JSON-C commit

2013-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote these words on 02/20/13 06:10 CST: If I do a svn update, it says its at revision 10963. Is this correct? Sorry for my other posts as I am being stupid this morning. Please disregard. You indeed updated the repo on the old server, but nothing needs fixing as the new server

[blfs-dev] udisks-1.0.4

2013-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Package udisks-1.0.4 lists LVM2 as a required dependency. However, using the BLFS instructions to build udisks1, after running ./configure the build will not include LVM2. You must add the --enable-lvm2 parameter to get the build to use LVM2. Is this something that changed has udisks1

Re: [blfs-dev] udisks-1.0.4

2013-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/17/13 09:52 CST: Package udisks-1.0.4 [snip] Additionally, could anyone provide a log of make check. I do not see where 'sudo' comes into play (listed as a dependency for the tests), but there is a mention in the Makefile.am file; however, I cannot see

Re: [blfs-dev] udisks-1.0.4

2013-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 02/18/13 11:11 CST: libdevmapper is part of LVM2. Yeah, I just saw that in configure.ac about devmapper. But thanks for the reply. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.23] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux

[blfs-dev] kdelibs

2013-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, If someone could confirm the following, it would be appreciated. I had to set LIBRARY_PATH=/xorg/prefix in order for kdelibs to perform make install. Without it the build fails right at the beginning with a bunch of message about cannot find -lSM, -lICE, -lX11, etc. make ran find

Re: [blfs-dev] kdelibs

2013-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/17/13 19:23 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: I had to set LIBRARY_PATH=/xorg/prefix in order for kdelibs to perform make install. Without it the build fails right at the beginning with a bunch of message about cannot find -lSM, -lICE, -lX11, etc. I've needed

[blfs-dev] Minor Qca nitpick

2013-02-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, The Qca instructions fall back to using a bundled copy of CA Certificates because it looks for ca-bundle.crt in /etc/ssl/certs instead of the BLFS location /etc/ssl. Is there any reason we don't pass the --certstore-path parameter to configure so that the package uses the system-installed

Re: [blfs-dev] Minor Qca nitpick

2013-02-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ragnar Thomsen wrote these words on 02/15/13 11:43 CST: On Friday 15 February 2013 11:33:22 Randy McMurchy wrote: The Qca instructions fall back to using a bundled copy of CA Certificates because it looks for ca-bundle.crt in /etc/ssl/certs instead of the BLFS location /etc/ssl. Is there any

Re: [blfs-dev] libiodbc overwrites files from unixODBC

2013-02-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 02/12/13 02:38 CST: There is none at the moment. All packages use pkg-config to get the CFLAGS/LDFLAGS. Archlinux does that too - --includedir --disable-iodbc and I appear to have used their instructions since nothing is overwritten on my system. Your

Re: [blfs-dev] errors in BIND page in BLFS svn

2013-02-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Waleed Hamra wrote these words on 02/12/13 04:44 CST: In the last batch of commands, to install the documentation, you start with a cd doc, but then, issue: install -v -m644 doc/arm/*.html \ /usr/share/doc/bind-9.9.2/arm this causes an error, and the right command is: install -v

[blfs-dev] Large commit

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I just ran my script that cleans up extraneous spaces from blank lines and at the end of lines in all the .xml files. The commit will probably not show up in -book as it is large. Editors (or anyone with a sandbox of current SVN trunk) ensure you do an 'svn up' before starting any edits

Re: [blfs-dev] Large commit

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/11/13 12:55 CST: I just ran my script that cleans up extraneous spaces from blank lines and at the end of lines in all the .xml files. If you use Vim to edit the book's .xml, you can add the following lines to your /etc/vimrc file and it will show in red

Re: [blfs-dev] Large commit

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/11/13 13:14 CST: Yes, its almost 500K. Do you want me to release it? Doesn't matter to me as there is really nothing to see. I can send a list of the files, but then you'll see that when you 'svn up'. I don't think it needs to be released, but let others have

[blfs-dev] Please use spaces and not tabs

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Grepping through the book I found about 35 files that had tabs used for indentation instead of spaces. Please do not use tabs for indentation. It appears most of them were from copy-and-paste operations (just because most of them were in the same spots in the files), so it appears it is

[blfs-dev] libiodbc overwrites files from unixODBC

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Here's something that doesn't come up very often. It appears that the libiodbc package in BLFS overwrites files that are installed by the BLFS package unixODBC (or vice-versa, depending on how you view it). My script reports this when installing libiodbc after unixODBC is already

Re: [blfs-dev] libiodbc overwrites files from unixODBC

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 02/11/13 19:15 CST: On 02/12/2013 02:12 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Here's something that doesn't come up very often. It appears that the libiodbc package in BLFS overwrites files that are installed by the BLFS package unixODBC (or vice-versa, depending on how you

Re: [blfs-dev] libiodbc overwrites files from unixODBC

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 02/11/13 19:15 CST: On 02/12/2013 02:12 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: My script reports this when installing libiodbc after unixODBC is already installed: The following files will be overwritten: /usr/include/odbcinst.h /usr/include/sql.h /usr/include/sqlext.h

Re: [blfs-dev] libiodbc overwrites files from unixODBC

2013-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 02/11/13 20:19 CST: Try --includedir=/usr/include/iodbc That would solve the problem with the overwriting of the headers (not tested), but what about the packages that expect them to be in /usr/include? Are we ready to modify the instructions for the couple of

[blfs-dev] Higgs Server

2013-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I cannot access BLFS SVN at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/. Can anyone confirm this? Also, the source code history in Trac has not made updates for 3 weeks. Is this because that area of Trac has not been merged? When it is fixed, will commits from the last 3 weeks show

Re: [blfs-dev] Does xterm work for UTF-8 ?

2013-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/10/13 13:04 CST: configure:14508: checking for usable Xft/fontconfig package configure:14534: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNARROWPROTO=1 -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOSMAJORVERSION=3 -DOSMINORVERSION=8 -I/usr/include/freetype2 conftest.c -lXft -lXmu -lXt

Re: [blfs-dev] Higgs Server

2013-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/10/13 15:02 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, I cannot access BLFS SVN at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/. Can anyone confirm this? Also, the source code history in Trac has not made updates for 3 weeks. Is this because that area of Trac

Re: [blfs-dev] Higgs Server

2013-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/10/13 15:12 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: What about the Trac updates to the source code? I don't understand your question. From the Trac Active Tickets (looking at the current bug list), click on the top toolbar where it says Browse Source. Then navigate

[blfs-dev] Inkscape build

2013-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'm not sure how many build Xorg outside of the /usr hierarchy, but I do and it really doesn't cause any issues. However, the build of inkscape choked at the very end when it links all the object files into the inkscape binaries with a cannot find -lX11 message (or something like that).

[blfs-dev] Question about SANE

2013-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, On 10/30 of last year Bruce updated the SANE package and added the parameter --disable-latex to the configure command. There is no reason listed in the Command Explanations why. My tests show that if TeX is installed, the latex procedure does what it is supposed to. If TeX is not

Re: [blfs-dev] Question about SANE

2013-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/07/13 10:48 CST: Also, the SANE instructions have a note that the user building the package should be a member of the scanner group. My tests show that the package is installed *exactly the same* if the builder is, or is not, a member of the group

Re: [blfs-dev] Question about SANE

2013-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/07/13 11:13 CST: I do recall having a problem without the --disable-latex switch, but I don't recall the specifics. I will again hide my copies of the programs it looks for (latex and dvips) and run configure, make, and make install again. I know for a fact

[blfs-dev] Support for old LFS versions

2013-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Going through the book I noticed that many of the pkgconfig dependencies have been removed/commented out. I commented out the remaining ones. Armin brings up a good point about supporting past versions of LFS as well as current trunk. I think it would be difficult to support past

Re: [blfs-dev] Support for old LFS versions

2013-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/07/13 14:46 CST: Like Armin said - 7.0 and 7.1. I don't regard those as so long ago. I wasn't sure and was not able to view the museum archives on the new server. However, the pkg-config page in BLFS has a good note on it that I just now saw. I will revert

[blfs-dev] DejaVu Fonts Instructions

2013-02-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, In the DejaVu Fonts installation instructions shown on the Xorg configuration page, the instructions seem to need an update. First, the fonts are now in a subdirectory of the source directory, so the installation of the TTF files do not work as shown in the book. However, the reason I'm

Re: [blfs-dev] DejaVu Fonts Instructions

2013-02-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/06/13 20:00 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: However, the reason I'm asking is that there are .conf files shipped in the tarball that are designed to be installed in /etc/fonts/conf.d, yet there is no instruction to install them. Are they required, or do they help

Re: [blfs-dev] DejaVu Fonts Instructions

2013-02-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/06/13 20:52 CST: Do the files from the tarball match what is already installed by fontconfig, or are they different/additional ? The .conf files in the DejaVu tarball are different than any shipped by Fontconfig. In fact, the README (or whatever it is I read

[blfs-dev] Misc cache updates

2013-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I added three new files to the xincludes directory to assist with adding update-desktop-database and gtk-update-icon-cache commands to packages. As these commands are not run by default if a package installs hicolor icons or desktop files, I thought it prudent that we remind readers that

Re: [blfs-dev] Misc cache updates

2013-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/01/13 16:38 CST: I've updated the following packages as they are the only ones that I have installed that install icons or desktop files: trunk/BOOK/multimedia/audioutils/audacious.xml trunk/BOOK/multimedia/videoutils/ffmpeg.xml trunk/BOOK

Re: [blfs-dev] Samba4

2013-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 01/31/13 12:39 CST: It turns out that this is no longer true. Seems so that AD-controller functionality is indeed only available when having Heimdal around. [snip] Currently, there seems to be no way to get AD-DC functionality with using any krb package

Re: [blfs-dev] krb5 + tcl,python

2013-01-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 01/28/13 00:58 CST: MIT-krb5 as Heimdal left the BLFS book. Yes you're right, Samba recommends Heimdal (i read that somewhere in their prerequisite wiki page) and indeed, there is something included in the source tree. But there is also a

Re: [blfs-dev] edguide

2013-01-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 01/25/13 00:54 CST: Q: svn repo lives on svn.linuxfromscratch.org from now on? The edguide names it at linuxfromscratch.org which actually points to quantum. That may be the reason for some misconfigured sandboxes. It sure explains mine. I followed the Guide

[blfs-dev] More BLFS Protocol

2013-01-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, As long as we are on the track of discussing the book's protocol (see discussion on -book), there is another thing I'd like to mention. The patches project for years had a maintainer (hey Tushar, you out there?) who was fairly strict in how the patches must be formatted and how there were

[blfs-dev] A good example why Command Explanations are important

2013-01-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Earlier there was/is a discussion on why BLFS is adamant about describing the various commands/descriptions/parameters/options used in the instructions for BLFS packages. I would like to present a really good example why these trivial (to us Editors) blurbs in the book are important.

[blfs-dev] More about the Higgs Syncronization

2013-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, First, let's stop all commits to BLFS until we get this worked out. There is definitely two repos out there. One has commits I've made (on Quantum), the other has commits Armin has made (on Higgs). Rendering of the book is still coming from the old repo (Quantum) as my changes are shown

Re: [blfs-dev] Higgs Syncronization

2013-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 01/24/13 07:41 CST: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:06:22 -0600, Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: randy@rmlinux: ~/Books/BLFS/BOOK svn status -u Status against revision: 10962 randy@rmlinux: ~/Books/BLFS/BOOK svn up What does 'svn info

Re: [blfs-dev] Higgs Syncronization

2013-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/24/13 08:23 CST: I just want to get the two repos synced together. Done. I migrated all the changes I made to the repo on Quantum to the repo on Higgs. Sorry for the noise and trouble. It was confusing to me for a bit. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.23

[blfs-dev] OpenOBEX

2013-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, The book lists the current version of OpenOBEX as 1.6 and available only from the Anduin server. The same (what appears to be) version of the package can also be downloaded from Sourceforge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/openobex/files/openobex/1.6/ Should the link in the book

[blfs-dev] Higgs Syncronization

2013-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Somehow, my installation of the BLFS book in my sandbox doesn't point at the new server. I do not even want to think how it happened as I have been cloning my sandbox (BLFS repo) for years every time I have a new build. My most recent updates are not being reflected in the SVN BOOK, but

[blfs-dev] [Fwd: Higgs Syncronization]

2013-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
wish I knew how this got screwed up. The Patches repo synced up fine, but BLFS is really messed up on my end. Original Message Subject: Higgs Syncronization Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:51:31 -0600 From: Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev

[blfs-dev] Persistent files/directories in /run

2013-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Excuse my ignorance on this subject as the /run filesystem is new to me and I am curious how everyone is handling directories in /run that are expected to exist after a system reboot. Many packages create directories during their installation procedure in /run (or /var/run, which is the

[blfs-dev] ConsoleKit

2013-01-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, My apologies right here at the beginning if this subject has been discussed and I missed the discussion. I am curious about BLFS' view on the obsolete and deprecated package ConsoleKit. ConsoleKit is listed as a dependency for several BLFS packages, and recommended for at least one

Re: [blfs-dev] Glib-networking make check

2013-01-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
CC'd to BLFS-Dev, follow-ups should be made there, as this is now a -dev issue On 1/17/2013 2:55 PM, Armin K. wrote: Try: glib-compile-schemas-2.0 /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas and re-run make check Thanks for the quick reply. I ran the command 'glib-compile-schemas

Re: [blfs-dev] Glib-networking make check

2013-01-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/17/2013 3:46 PM, Armin K. wrote: However, gschemas.compiled should be createad by GTK+3 and gsettings-desktop-schemas (or any other packages that installs GSettings schemas) make install process unless you are using DESTDIR method. I see. That is the case. And because in some spots of

Re: [blfs-dev] spice (libvirt)

2013-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/7/2013 9:38 AM, Tobias Gasser wrote: as spice-gtk 0.15 is dated 12/21 it is just a few days newer then gtk3 3.7.4 which is from 12/18. maybe i'll have to restart once again with gtk3 3.6.3 which is in the book (or try 3.6.4 which is avaiable now). so far i had no issues with 3.7.4

[blfs-dev] QT Installation

2013-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Noted in the log from the ./configure command at the beginning of my recent QT build is this: This target is using the GNU C++ compiler (linux-g++). Recent versions of this compiler automatically include code for exceptions, which increase both the size of the

[blfs-dev] FOP Hyphenation Patterns

2013-01-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Can anyone recall why the instructions to install the FOP Hyphenation Patterns are commented out of the FOP instructions? The OFFO package is still available and works just fine using the instructions that are now commented out. It also allows the unit tests to complete without

[blfs-dev] LLVM Notes

2012-12-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Does anyone recall why there are CC= and CXX= lines prefacing the configure command in the LLVM instructions? I am not certain they are required. My build was fine without them. Also, the docs are installed into /usr/docs instead of /usr/share/doc/llvm=3.1, we could probably use a

Re: [blfs-dev] LLVM Notes

2012-12-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 12/20/12 17:30 CST: On 12/21/2012 12:12 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Does anyone recall why there are CC= and CXX= lines prefacing the configure command in the LLVM instructions? I am not certain they are required. My build was fine without them

[blfs-dev] TCP-Wrappers

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Just out of curiosity, why are instances of the dependency TCP-Wrappers labeled as deprecated? As best as I can tell, it is still a valid utility to control access to system daemons and resources. Though I can see IPTables as a more robust package, Wrappers still works fine for small

Re: [blfs-dev] TCP-Wrappers

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 12/15/12 20:39 CST: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 08:16:12PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: No big deal, I was just trying to find out the reasoning. Please see the BLFS-dev archives from June 2012 under the title 'TCP Wrapper'. I agree with your comments, but I've

Re: [blfs-dev] TCP-Wrappers

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/15/2012 8:47 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Again, I'm not arguing, just trying to discover the reasoning for removing a package that builds fine, is functional, and was written by one of the fathers of Unix and free software. The package (unlike most) has stood the test of time

Re: [blfs-dev] TCP-Wrappers

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/15/12 21:23 CST: tcpwrappers just gets in the way. For -support issues, it causes more problems then it solves. What problems is it expected to solve? :-) (sarcasm) I suppose it is difficult to explain the syntax of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny

Re: [blfs-dev] TCP-Wrappers

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/15/12 21:52 CST: My point is to ask what benefits does it provide? How many untrusted users are on your network? How many systems on your network have servers facing the Internet? In those cases, iptables does a *much* more complete job of protecting

[blfs-dev] libtirpc

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I am a bit confused with the language in the libtirpc instructions. Paraphrasing, it says that /usr/include/rpc/rpc.h should not be installed by default if the version of Glibc is =2.14, but I just installed current LFS-Development that includes Glibc-2.16 and that header file *is*

Re: [blfs-dev] libtirpc

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/15/12 22:29 CST: The glibc folks left it out for a couple of versions and then put it back after a lot of complaints. LFS 7.1 had the problem of leaving it out. Which means the text in the BLFS book should be modified ever so slightly. -- Randy rmlscsi:

Re: [blfs-dev] libtirpc

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/15/12 22:41 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/15/12 22:29 CST: The glibc folks left it out for a couple of versions and then put it back after a lot of complaints. LFS 7.1 had the problem of leaving it out. Which means the text

Re: [blfs-dev] Perl Modules

2012-12-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 12/12/12 17:33 CST: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:41PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.23] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 19:32:00 up 6 days, 5:31, 1 user, load

[blfs-dev] Perl Modules

2012-12-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I've been working on updating the Perl Modules page. I really like how all the dependency links now point at a page where you can download the current version of the package instead of hard-coding a version into the BLFS instructions. This makes the upkeep of the Perl Modules page much

Re: [blfs-dev] Perl Modules

2012-12-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 12/11/12 19:28 CST: Sounds nice, but what about when a newer version of a module suddenly brings in a whole load of extra dependencies ? That would be the case in any update. Problem is that CPAN typically deletes old versions, and that requires users to find

[blfs-dev] CA Certs

2012-12-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to give some input about the CA Certs installation. First, why are the shell scripts installed in /bin and not /usr/bin? The wget program is not available and chances are networking is not enabled in single usr mode (why else would /usr not be mounted?) Also, the installation is

Re: [blfs-dev] cvs stray i

2012-12-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/10/2012 5:36 PM, John Burrell wrote: in the last gray box at the bottom of the CVS page there is a stray i - first char in that box. Fixed, and will be committed in a couple of minutes. Thanks for the report. -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] Missing Gnome Files

2012-10-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 10/21/2012 5:21 PM, Armin K. wrote: Dana 21.10.2012 20:04, Bruce Dubbs je napisao: OK, the files repo is now up-to-date. -- Bruce I took a look at anduin's blfs hieararchy and found lot of packages there that are not in the book anymore. If you desire, you can remove the following

Re: [blfs-dev] Avoiding sourceforge

2012-09-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 9/12/2012 11:30 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'd like to request that editors try to find alternative sites to sourceforge. If that's the only site available, please offer anduin as an alternate source. The only problem with that is everyone (including editors) do not know where the main hosting

[blfs-dev] Hurricane Issac

2012-08-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
It looks as if the path of the hurricane is going to go right over my house. This really sucks. I'm sure power will be out for days. Wish me luck. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686]

Re: [blfs-dev] samba's swat and xinetd

2012-08-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/24/12 16:26 CST: Should I add xinetd back to BLFS? It's been saved in the archive directory so it wouldn't be hard. I think we should. It would be nice if we could support Samba's SWAT. I can add it back if you like, Bruce. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Chapter

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 08/20/12 18:28 CST: when running su -c make install, bash -e shell will exit on error because that command is incorrect - it would try to run make as user install ... It should be su -c make install. I am unsure tough if make install would do any harm if run

[blfs-dev] Errata

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
If nobody has any objections, I would like to comment out the Errata page from the book. Because a development environment does not have errata (if something needs to be fixed, just change the book), there really is no need for it. Thoughts? -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld version

[blfs-dev] Formatting for PDF Output

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, There are a few places in the book where long extended commands inside screenuserinput tags are not legible in PDF output. Here are our choices: 1) Not worry about it and comment out the PDF generation from the Makefile. 2) Create files that can be downloaded instead of having to cut

Re: [blfs-dev] Formatting for PDF Output

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 08/22/12 10:42 CST: I thought we stopped maintaining downloadable mozconfig files ? I'm not sure. You would know better than I. The list of UID/GID user/groups also needs to be fixed for proper PDF output as well. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld

Re: [blfs-dev] Errata

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/22/12 11:08 CST: Randy McMurchy wrote: If nobody has any objections, I would like to comment out the Errata page from the book. Because a development environment does not have errata (if something needs to be fixed, just change the book), there really

Re: [blfs-dev] Formatting for PDF Output

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/22/12 11:13 CST: My thought is to skip pdf generation. I don't know that anyone uses it and the book changes virtually daily anyway. That was sort of my thoughts as well, but it would be easy to fix that is why I brought it up. It is more than 1500 pages

Re: [blfs-dev] Introduction

2012-08-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/22/12 17:53 CST: I must really have stopped paying attention, I thought you were still leading the BLFS effort! I had been away for many, many months. Anyway, welcome back! I'm certain the various projects will benefit from your energy and enthusiasm

[blfs-dev] Little CMS version 2.x

2012-08-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Could anyone get me up to speed on what packages have incompatibilities with the Little CMS version 2.x engine? Thanks! -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.24] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 11:43:01 up 22:47, 1

[blfs-dev] Favor

2012-08-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
The attached file was too large to send via mail, so instead please download it from http://www.mcmurchy.com/ralcgm/ralcgm-3.50.tar.gz Original Message Subject: Favor Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:12:22 -0500 From: Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org To: BLFS Development List

Re: [blfs-dev] Little CMS version 2.x

2012-08-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 08/21/12 13:09 CST: For things in the book, the last person to look was Andy. Google finds his comments on the gimp and poppler. Then he pointed to a debian patch for poppler. I think we've upgraded both since then, it looks as if poppler can now use lcms2.

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