Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-13 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 10:57 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > [cc'd to BLFS-Dev in hopes of further discussion on some of these topics] > > Simon Geard wrote these words on 10/12/05 04:41 CST: > > > Yep, that's the one I've seen mentioned on the hal lists. Is it simply a > > case of adding that line

Re: Yelp fixed [was: Re: GNOME 2.12 Status]

2005-10-12 Thread Kevin Jordan
On 10/12/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis J Perkins wrote these words on 10/12/05 21:03 CST: > > > After reading your post, I added --enable-man and --enable-info to see > > what would happen. Yelp seems to run fine, except it doesn't show any > > man or info pages. > > Well,

Re: Yelp fixed [was: Re: GNOME 2.12 Status]

2005-10-12 Thread Dennis J Perkins
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 21:20 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Dennis J Perkins wrote these words on 10/12/05 21:03 CST: > > > After reading your post, I added --enable-man and --enable-info to see > > what would happen. Yelp seems to run fine, except it doesn't show any > > man or info pages. > >

Re: Yelp fixed [was: Re: GNOME 2.12 Status]

2005-10-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dennis J Perkins wrote these words on 10/12/05 21:03 CST: > After reading your post, I added --enable-man and --enable-info to see > what would happen. Yelp seems to run fine, except it doesn't show any > man or info pages. Well, I can say without a doubt, after building Yelp twice with those

Re: Yelp fixed [was: Re: GNOME 2.12 Status]

2005-10-12 Thread Dennis J Perkins
> Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/10/05 17:20 CST: > > > Everything seems to work good except for Yelp, which is totally > > sucking for me, crashes every time I run it. I looked in GNOME's BZ, > > but can't see anything that stands out. > > As I initially mentioned when I first was having

Yelp fixed [was: Re: GNOME 2.12 Status]

2005-10-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
[cc'd to BLFS-Dev, as there was discussion there about this as well] Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/10/05 17:20 CST: > Everything seems to work good except for Yelp, which is totally > sucking for me, crashes every time I run it. I looked in GNOME's BZ, > but can't see anything that stand

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
[cc'd to BLFS-Dev in hopes of further discussion on some of these topics] Simon Geard wrote these words on 10/12/05 04:41 CST: > Yep, that's the one I've seen mentioned on the hal lists. Is it simply a > case of adding that line to the udev rules file, or is there more > involved? I simply made

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-12 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 10:42 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Other than than, the BLFS book D-BUS instructions need to be updated > to include starting the D-BUS user session daemon (instructions right > now are in the GNOME post-installation configuration section). The > HAL instructions need to be

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 23:34 +1300, Simon Geard wrote: > Haven't investigated thoroughly yet, but reading the HAL mailing lists > suggests the problem is probably related to changes in recent udev > versions. At minimum, hotplug is partly broken, since it's no longer > auto-loading usb-storage. >

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Dan Nicholson
Randy McMurchy wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 10/11/05 00:36 CST: Hey, that's fine. The core is the most important part, anyway. I hadn't really thought about how ridiculous it would be to commit changes to ~40 packages at once. This is totally fine. I'm willing to sniff out some

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 09:03 +0100, Declan Moriarty wrote: > /Makes a mental note not to even open a gnome archive until someone says > it's easy. Oh, installing it is easy enough - it's just a lengthy process due to the number of packages involved (60+). The problem is for those like Randy who are

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 00:58 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > I'm right now working on getting gnome-volume-manager into the book. > This package, with a properly configured D-BUS/HAL installation, > totally rocks. That's excellent news. I've had HAL / G-V-M working almost perfectly on a slightly old

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 00:54 +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: > Incidentally, if you build gnome-menus against Gamin and then uninstall it > and use FAM, you'll need to reinstall gnome-menus as it breaks the gnome > panel. > Gnome-menus sets a compile time flag, FAMNoExists, according to whether you're

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 17:20 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Everything seems to work good except for Yelp, which is totally > sucking for me, crashes every time I run it. I looked in GNOME's BZ, > but can't see anything that stands out. Andy posted earlier this > week that using a newer CVS version

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-11 Thread Declan Moriarty
Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words > Hey Randy, > > I was thinking about starting a GNOME 2.12 build soon, and I wanted to > know how soon I might see your instructions in the SVN. If it won't > be awhile, would you mind enlightening me with any gotchas I might see > along the way? A

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/11/05 00:50 CST: > I've already got gnome-meeting, nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-media > done, just haven't updated the book yet. I'm right now working on getting gnome-volume-manager into the book. This package, with a properly configured D-BUS/HAL installat

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 10/11/05 00:36 CST: > Hey, that's fine. The core is the most important part, anyway. I > hadn't really thought about how ridiculous it would be to commit > changes to ~40 packages at once. This is totally fine. I'm willing > to sniff out some bugs or build pr

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/10/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It isn't a typo. I only updated the core GNOME packages on my initial > update. Since then, I've updated the system-tools-backends package. > I suggest that you svn update and render every few minutes if you > want to see current progress. >

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 10/11/05 00:07 CST: > Anyway, this has a point. The link for system-tools-backends-1.4.0 has a > typo. Right now, it's got > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/system-tools-backends/1.2/system-tools-backends-1.4.0.tar.bz2 > and it should be > http://ftp.gn

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/10/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're only saying this because you saw my first round of commits to > update to 2.12.1, right? So many freaking packages in GNOME! I was gonna try not to include GNOME this time when I did BLFS, but so many of the GTK2 apps that I like dep

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: Off topic: Do you understand when and how to force the menu to update in GNOME? update-desktop-database doesn't make GNOME do anything as far as I can tell. Usually, I have to shut down the session and restart it to see anything. There must be some lock file or cache that

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Peter B. Steiger
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 15:36 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > If you don't mind, please build Yelp using a BLFS SVN version of > > Moz, Firefox, or TBird and see if Yelp sucks for you as well. :-) I was going to be a hero and jump in here because when I built GTK/Gnome from the SVN book last week, I

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 16:09 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > Off topic: Do you understand when and how to force the menu to update > in GNOME? update-desktop-database doesn't make GNOME do anything as > far as I can tell. Usually, I have to shut down the session and > restart it to see anything. T

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/10/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You've probably used it, just didn't know you were! :-) For about 2 minutes, and it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. > But, now that I think of it, you probably have never used Yelp before > because you don't need 'Help' with

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 15:36 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > I've never > used Yelp before, so if there's any particular way you want it used, > let me know. You've probably used it, just didn't know you were! :-) It is the GNOME Help browser, and what is used if you choose 'Help' from any GNOME ap

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/10/05, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're only saying this because you saw my first round of commits to > update to 2.12.1, right? Look before you speak, I guess. Right after I wrote that I checked out the svn, and, lo and behold, there's 2.12 in general.ent. So, I'm buildi

Re: GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 15:00 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > I was thinking about starting a GNOME 2.12 build soon, and I wanted to > know how soon I might see your instructions in the SVN. If it won't > be awhile, would you mind enlightening me with any gotchas I might see > along the way? Anyone

GNOME 2.12 Status

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
Hey Randy, I was thinking about starting a GNOME 2.12 build soon, and I wanted to know how soon I might see your instructions in the SVN. If it won't be awhile, would you mind enlightening me with any gotchas I might see along the way? Anyone else who's built 2.12, feel free to chime in as well.