On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 07:09 -0500, LM wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:00 AM,
blfs-support-requ...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
Yeah, that's a problem we had to deal with at work, when they switched
to the rapid release cycle. But in practice, what we've ended up doing
is simply ignoring it
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 21:26 -0800, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
corrupt.c:33:37: fatal error: dbus/dbus-glib-lowlevel.h: No such file
or directory
compilation terminated.
It would appear that a header file in dbus-glib-0.100 is needed to
compile dbus-1.6.8. So trying to compile
On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 19:39 +0100, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
Am I the only one around here who uses shell arithmetics when I want to
calculate? (Sorry for the meme reference.)
As in $((2+2))? I do that occasionally, but I'm more likely to just open
a Python session...
Simon.
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On Sun, 2012-12-02 at 15:01 -0800, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
No package 'gsettings-desktop-schemas' found
Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.
Your answer is in the error message you've quoted. You've installed
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 17:05 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
When you did configure, there probably was a pkgconfig file that didn't
add -lX11 when it should have.
My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to recall reading about
something affecting packages linking to libraries second hand, so
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 01:14 +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
Can I have interactions between the 2 projects and help one with
another (i.e. using for example gentoo rules to suggest blfs
instructions)?
No more than any other distro. Afterall, *all* distros build from source
- they just
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 12:36 +, Ken Moffat wrote:
Yes, I've only built pure64 x86_64 LFS for the past few years.
The difference in LFS is that it has the /lib64 symlinks so it isn't
quite so 'clean'.
Eh, it turns out it's not that hard to get rid of those. I've been
playing with that over
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 13:48 +, lux-integ wrote:
in my last clfs build I used
gcc-4.6.3-pure64-1.patch
is there an equivalent
gcc-4.7.2-pure64-(x).patch ?
See my other reply - or, just work it out for yourself like I did. It's
pretty easy to look at the 4.6 patch, and apply the same
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 02:28 +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
I guess installing python 2.5 without any instructions isn't so easy.
Moreover, it's strange that configure sees python 2.7 2.5. I think
either this package should be patched, or the dependency in the book
should be python2.5
On Mon, 2012-12-24 at 19:29 +, Ken Moffat wrote:
For a server, I doubt there is very much commonality. For a
desktop I suspect the common packages stop fairly soon after building
Xorg. For myself, getting my preferred wm is basically followed by
firefox with system libraries.
On Mon, 2012-12-24 at 10:34 -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
For myself, after my first LFS-4.1 build, all by hand with copious
written notes from the book, I began using a directory watcher called
git by Ingo Bruekel. It was apparently abandon-ware, and I found a
few fixes necessary. And of
On Tue, 2012-12-25 at 06:28 +, Ken Moffat wrote:
But then, I'm an admitted heretic - in my scripts I build and
install as root : DESTDIR/INSTALL_ROOT are for when I'm looking at a
package, not when I'm installing it ;) To be honest, I spent some
weeks trying to use DESTDIR installs as a
On Tue, 2012-12-25 at 12:15 -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
I did in a previous post. q.v.
Ok, just went back to look at that post which I seem to have missed.
In general, Ken has already covered most of what I'd say in reply, but
I'd also note that much of the stuff you list is just dependencies.
On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 01:57 +0100, Tobias Gasser wrote:
Am 25.12.2012 10:28, schrieb Simon Geard:
Hmm... it occurs to me that while using FS monitoring (or your 'find'
based approach) is neat, it's not parallel-safe. I'm guessing you don't
install more than one package simultaneously? My
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 09:38 -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
Certainly. I do have goals to get to. But a newbie would, I think,
benefit from being told that (s)he needs to build certain dependencies,
with PERHAPS some guidance to what a good set would be, before getting
to the goal of a functional
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 17:43 -0500, Baho Utot wrote:
I found the problem...It was an xorg protocol header that was missing
and the libpthread-stubs was not there. I have it compiling now!
A stupid package, that libpthread-stubs - on a Linux machine, it doesn't
even install anything, except
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 23:10 +0100, Armin K. wrote:
One example is libffi 3.0.10 to 3.0.11 upgrade, where libffi.so.5 became
libffi.so.6 and everything that used libffi was required to be rebuilt.
Seriously? They bumped the ABI version in a 0.0.1 release increment?
That's a shocker...
Simon.
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 23:28 -0800, Richard Coffee wrote:
Also, I didn't need the LDFLAGS doing an upgrade. I suspect that was
just because the libraries already existed. Although I did need to use
a sed before doing 'make install'.
sed -i 's/-dm0755/-d -m0755/' iptables/Makefile
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 20:14 +, lux-integ wrote:
Greetings
the five questions are:-
--q1: Are there low-cost adsl2 modems that are linux compatible? (I am
still stuck wioth the speedtouch330 which is plain adsl )
--q2: how does linux handle adsl2 modem-routers (ehm modemThingies)
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 12:15 +, lux-integ wrote:
On Tuesday 08 January 2013 09:17:51 Simon Geard wrote:
Every DSL device I've seen in years - including the free ones ISPs hand
out to new customers - has just been a router with an ethernet port. The
device itself takes care of the DSL
On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 10:58 +, lux-integ wrote:
nailed it. why is a router bundled with modem? No WHY is every adsl2 modem
bundled with a router?
Because it's *easy*. Plug one cable into the wall, another into the
computer, and you're done. Actually, many of them are also WiFi access
On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 16:13 +0100, Thomas de Roo wrote:
Hello,
Can somebody explain why the Java-plugin only works when it is a
symbolic link, but not when it is simply copied to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
Just guessing, but the most likely answer is that it's using the
location of the
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:46 +0100, Armin K. wrote:
However, gschemas.compiled should be createad by GTK+3 and
gsettings-desktop-schemas (or any other packages that installs GSettings
schemas) make install process unless you are using DESTDIR method.
Ah ha... I think you've just solved the
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 13:27 +0100, Armin K. wrote:
I used DESTDIR method ever since.
For every single package that I install I have following set of post
install triggers
I've just introduced something similar into my own scripts, though
slightly more discriminating - checking the install
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 10:50 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
The potential problem with using bash is compatibility with non-LFS/BLFS
scripts.
Are non-LFS scripts compatible with ours, sourcing our functions files
and stuff? Because I've never seen one that was, and 3rd-party
bootscripts seem to be
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 12:49 -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
I've never used multiple monitors, but Xinerama has always been part
of X so I've always built libXinerama. If you omit expected
dependencies, you get problems. I think that BLFS has always
But if you didn't configure ought to
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 16:07 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
systemd has/needs over 100 pages of documentation. Myth or fact?
I'm astonished... that's the first time I've seen well documented used
as criticism of an open-source project...
Simon.
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On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 12:25 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Simon Geard wrote:
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 16:07 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
systemd has/needs over 100 pages of documentation. Myth or fact?
I'm astonished... that's the first time I've seen well documented used
as criticism of an open
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:55 +, lux-integ wrote:
I have sftp but since it is only data between two neighbouring machines I
thought a simple even if insucure
method would suffice. Advice and suggestions on available ftp clients would
be much appreciated.
My advice would be not to
On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 03:31 -0800, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
2. How a system with so much RAM is swapping?
Because swap isn't just extra memory to use once RAM runs out. I don't
know specifics for Linux, but the OS is free to pre-emptively move data
from RAM to swap if it thinks it's
On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 13:11 -0500, LM wrote:
It certainly makes it a nuisance for building by script to
have to change from gnu autotools to cmake. Thanks.
Not really. Sure, it's an extra dependency, but changing your scripts is
generally as simple as replacing:
./configure --prefix=/usr
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 10:44 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
LM wrote:
There was a thread that mentioned audio libraries and the possibility
of documenting some of it to a wiki in December. Ran across this link
mentioned at osnews.com:
On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 23:13 +, Ken Moffat wrote:
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:57:21PM -0800, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
Is it possible to install gnome-shell without installing network manager?
It is not needed on an NFS root system.
No idea, but google thinks it is/was possible, at
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:28 -0500, LM wrote:
Simon Geard wrote:
Being from 2007, it's also somewhat outdated - both ESD and aRts are
pretty much irrelevant these days, and there's no mention of KDE's
Phonon.
There was some reason for phonon being left out.
Well, yes... it's
On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 10:57 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
LM wrote:
Here's one more audio reference that might be of interest:
http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
It's also not the latest information since it's dated 2009. However,
it has some
On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 08:20 -0800, Alan wrote:
I have had some trouble for a long time with exporting some
environmental variables from my .bash_profile or the .bashrc
Even if I manually execute those files, the variables still are not
set. I have a echo 'path set' in files and I do see
On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 22:44 -0800, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
I have gnome 3 working, but firefox 14 doesn't seem to be capable of
installing extensions.
Common extensions for example include one that allows hiding the top
task bar. I can't think
of any extensions that are essential on a
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 01:02 +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
Hi,
Does someone have some experience about compatibility between the Python
Modules
and Python2.7 / 3.3? In my case, pyrex doesn't seem to install with Python3.3.
Is it a known problem? Are a lot of modules incompatible with
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 21:02 +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
BRLTTY depends on pyrex to support speech-dispatcher. But I'll think again of
installing speech-dispatcher.
Ok, so you don't actually care about Python, as such - you care about
the build requirements for BRLTTY. In that case, the
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 14:21 +0100, Niels Terp wrote:
And much to my surprise, even after a munual sh
/etc/profile.d/xorg.sh the variables STILL don't contain anything.
That will *never* work. Running sh filename will simply start a new
process which reads the file, sets those variables in that
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 16:28 -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote:
The following Note is in the MesaLib documentation:
The libxml2 Python module must have been built during the installation
of libxml2 or else MesaLib build will fail.
Should it perhaps read as follows:
Python must have
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 17:29 -0400, alex lupu wrote:
I'm wondering if the above grub-1.99 is of the Grub-1 variety
(as opposed to 2.00 which must be in the GRUB 2 class).
Nope. 1.99 is basically a Grub2 pre-release.
Simon.
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On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 05:55 -0700, William Tracy wrote:
Just to provide a dissenting view:
http://xkcd.com/1200/
Indeed - most users care more about protecting their data, than about
the integrity of a system they can repair/reinstall with relative ease.
The two aren't unrelated, though.
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 11:04 +0100, lux-integ wrote:
I dont want to do parallel builds so the question then becomes:-
will gstreamer-dependent-stuff-in-the-blfs-book work with gstreamer-1.0.7?
Short answer, no - they're effectively different libraries.
Longer answer, maybe - it depends on
On Mon, 2013-05-27 at 18:41 -0300, Fernando wrote:
Now, python 2.6 is not enough:
Creating Python environment
Python 2.7 or greater (but not Python 3) is required to build. You are
running Python 2.6.
*** Fix above errors and then restart with make -f
client.mk build
I
On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 18:57 -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
Can now build icedtea-web-1.4, either using OpenJDK-1.7.0.21-2.3.9 or
OpenJDK-1.7.0.40-2.4.0, but *only after exiting X* session (lxsession)
and runing the build script on a terminal.
Does it work from an xterm if you unset DISPLAY
On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 22:23 -0500, Tyrin Price wrote:
Still, that is a lot of work when I really only need one 32-bit app.
Depending on how often you use that app, you might also consider running
a 32-bit OS (LFS or otherwise) in a VM, so as not to require the
complexity of a multilib setup in
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 08:55 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
That is indeed a typo that I just fixed. junit uses an uncommon naming
scheme and I used a more common one for the binary package.
By uncommon naming scheme, are you perchance referring to the junit vs
junit-dep distinction?
Unrelated,
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 09:25 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Simon Geard wrote:
Unrelated, I'm curious why the book points to a Debian/Ubuntu package
for a jar package. Surely a reference to the upstream junit.org site
would be more appropriate?
We need a url that can be used with wget. I
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 14:44 -0500, Dave Wagler wrote:
That was the problem. Thanks. I also had to re-install pango for the
same reason.
My suggestion would be that gobject-introspection should be the first
thing you install after glib itself. These days, almost anything that
needs glib, also
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 10:42 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
This is an interesting idea, but I have a few questions about it. I
don't know how well it's supported. From what I can tell, it's based on
GTK+2 and I don't know how well that will continue to be supported.
Poorly, is my outsider
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 12:58 +0100, Igor Živković wrote:
I guess none of BLFS editors uses ADSL
Most ADSL users simply have a router that connects with an ethernet or
wifi interface. Having to deal with pppoe and actual ADSL hardware isn't
exactly common...
Simon.
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On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 14:39 -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
This must be related to gobject-introspection. Is it installed?
It's definitely installed, because that's precisely the thing failing...
the invocation of /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner.
A quick look at the code appearing in the stack
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 11:03 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I'm unaware why noshell would be an advantage over /bin/false. What
does it do that is needed?
Most google results indicate that it's to do with logging - that noshell
will report that someone attempted to obtain a shell as a system user,
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 17:16 -0600, Dan McGhee wrote:
I was discussing this on the LFS-support list because I'm trying to do
it in chroot. If actually bringing up a wireless card is possible in
chroot, then I'm in a dhcpd and wpa_supplicant situation.
First question, does anyone know if
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 09:43 +, John Frankish wrote:
Indeed - I'd mistyped the cc - gcc symlink, after correcting it, things work
Thanks for that, it would have taken me a long time to discover :)
Yeah, being a Python coder helps when you're confronted by a stack trace
like that one...
On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 11:17 -0600, Dan McGhee wrote:
I'm working my way throught the Xorg installation and getting close to
installing the drivers. Xorg hasn't quite caught up yet with my chip
which is Radeon HD 8610G, and I'm going to use the proprietary driver
from ATI. I'm asking for
On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 19:53 +, Richard Melville wrote:
I'm attempting to boot with syslinux from a USB flash drive with GPT
and ext2. I'm able to boot OK but I'm seeing some weird behaviour.
If I use a UUID instead of /dev/sdb2 I get a kernel panic and it
doesn't seem to like either
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 11:16 +, Richard Melville wrote:
I have syslinux on a GPT USB flash drive (currently /dev/sdc1)
together with the kernel image. The root file system is on an mSATA
SSD (currently /dev/sdb2) which is traditionally partitioned. If I use
root=/dev/sdb2 plus kernel
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 20:22 -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote:
I'm not far from choosing a Desktop Environment, which BLFS gives you
choices of KDE, XFCE, LXDE to install.
I use Gnome at work, an old version that comes with Redhat 5, and I
understand that new versions get mixed reviews in
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 21:41 +, Richard Melville wrote:
The atom has come a long way since its inauguration; the latest
Silverton range featuring the Avoton processors boast up to an eight
core model with a 2.6 GHz clock speed per core and a 64 bit
instruction set. The L3 cache is up to 4
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:53 +, Matt Burgess wrote:
My *deity*! It's bad enough that some config files are written in XML,
but JavaScript for config files, really?
Not so much a config file, as a script. I don't know PolicyKit APIs, but
it's basically defining a custom security rule... a
On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 04:07 -0600, William Harrington wrote:
xorg-proto ( which has util-macros as required dependency) does not
have Xorg introduction as a required dependency where XORG_PREFIX and
XORG_CONFIG is set.
Do we really have a reason for having these variables, instead of just
On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 07:59 -0600, Dan McGhee wrote:
--no-preserve-owner
Do not change the ownership of the files; leave them owned
by the user extracting them.
To me that phrase leave them owned says that the files will be
owned by me when I'm done and seems to
On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 13:13 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Judging from LFS, many people skip things like the preface. I don't
know how many times users have run into problems because they didn't
read the preface and run the host requirements script.
Yeah, you could title that page YOU MUST READ
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 21:55 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
And the user has the information to do that.
If you've decided to use the standard /usr prefix, you can omit the
remainder of this page.
Sure... it's just that we make the complicated case the default one for
the inexperienced people,
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 10:51 +, eddie james wrote:
The instructions are a tad ambiguous to a soft mind such as my own. After
google for 3 hours, I looked into the exploded libxml2 directory and saw
files related to python. I then did ./configure --help and noticed the
--with-python option..
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 19:47 +, akhiezer wrote:
Old ms-intellimouse-explorer-... gave
'em lots of years of heavy use - think since 2004.
Yep... whatever can be said of their software, Microsoft has a history
of making good mice and keyboards. I'm typing this on the ergonomic
keyboard I
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 03:41 +, Ken Moffat wrote:
People who think that powerpoint was a brilliant idea are probably
better-placed than I am to provide assistance.
As opposed to those of us who regard it as an abomination, a plague upon
workplace productivity, bringing up traumatic memories
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