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  200311/169: Instructions: Selecting digest table of contents format
    UUC Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/170: Looking for a place to store car and tire trailer in south Florida
    "Vernon L. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/171: E46 Touring Aftermarket Exhaust
    "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/172: Sears Jacks
    "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/173: Re: Sears Jacks
    "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/177: Re: Sears Jacks
    Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/174: Trade on BMW.. Went another route.. 
    "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/175: E46 Winter Tire Suggestions
    "Greg Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/176: Re: Recommendations needed for a jack and jack stands...
    "Lowe, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/178: A few questions...
    "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/179: M30 cylinder head R and Ramblings
    "David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  200311/180: LSD Bolt Torque - Please Verify
    "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:33 -0500
From: UUC Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Instructions: Selecting digest table of contents format
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:15:51 -0500
From: "Vernon L. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "E36M3 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for a place to store car and tire trailer in south Florida
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello everyone,

Sorry for the multiple list cross-post.  I'm searching for a place to store
my M3 and tire trailer for the winter in the Fort Lauderdale area.  I'm
still technically living in Pittsburgh, but I'll be working in Fort
Lauderdale for the next 6-8 months and I wanted to hit some of the South
Florida tracks during the winter and maybe do a few autocrosses as well.
I've done some casual research on self-storage garages, but I wanted to see
if there were any other options out there.  I have an E36 M3 and a Trailex
Tire Toter (about 6-8 feet long).  If anyone has any ideas of a place I
could rent for a reasonable price, please let me know!

Thanks,

Vern Anderson



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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:34:34 -0800
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E46 Touring Aftermarket Exhaust
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all,

I'm posting this for a friend with a 325iT/5. He wants an aftermarket
exhaust so he can hear his exhaust sounds. He doesn't want it to be too loud
though. I'd appreciate it if anyone experienced in this area could make some
recommendations. I once had an E34 525iTA and bought a B&B (Triflow)
exhaust. I removed it the next day as it was so loud in a wagon.

Thanks in advance.

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S
'01 525iTa: Stock



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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:55:39 -0800
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sears Jacks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Matthew Yip wrote:

> Hmm - my Sears jack hasn't leaked in 10 years even
> after being left in the rain at countless races and it's been
> used to raise more weight than my puny E28 so I wouldn't
> go discounting Sears jacks immediately.

I bought a big heavy Sears floor jack in 1980 and the thing still works
great after probably more abuse than Mathew's jack has ever seen.  I kept it
bolted and locked in the open bed of my Toyota 4x4s for years and used it
many times to jack the vehicle when it was stuck in the sand, mud and snow
(I also had sand ladders bolted in the bed of the truck).  In addition to
regular jacking duty I still use the jack a few times a year to "tow" people
that park in front of my garage in San Francisco (I jack up the back end
with the parking brake and roll them out of the way).

Kevin Kelly
BMW CCA 50039


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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:05:37 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sears Jacks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>In addition to
> regular jacking duty I still use the jack a few times a year to
> "tow" people
> that park in front of my garage in San Francisco (I jack up the back end
> with the parking brake and roll them out of the way).

Please tell me you move them to a 90 degree attitude to the curb and leave
them that way

;-)

Actually, in SF, I can envisage using a set of those roll around dolleys and
just giving the car a good, down hill, shove........

Brett Anderson
KMS


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:51:02 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BMW BMW BMW BMW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sears Jacks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wow...sand ladders...i never knew they made such things...i wish i knew
there were these things back when i used to do "amateur" off roading with my
first jeep back in high school...

for those of you curious, i googled it up...
http://www.britishpacific.com/offroad/sand_ladder.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> (I also had sand ladders bolted in the bed of the truck).


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:10:34 -0500
From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC-BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trade on BMW.. Went another route.. 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi All,

I got a few responses regarding sh**tty trade value on a 15 year old car..
(85 535i)

well I decided against the dealer (Mercedes) taking the car.. They offered
me $1000.00 CAD on the car as it sat, that included the wheels and tires
(brand new), which I know I can unload for $1000.00 on thier own.. So I
decided to give the car to my young cousin that needs transportation to and
from University.  He was really appreciative.  I gave him the car with the
14" steel wheels and caps, and kept the 17" wheels and they are now for
sale.. I could have sold the car on the market and got more money, but I
didnt have room in the garage for the car, and I live in a downtown city
where parking goes at a premium, so keeping it around would have been a
detriment.  It has a happy home and I can help him work on it.

My new car got delivered last wednesday, and I have had it for a week now..
I really like it, its quick, comfortable and new..  I bought a 2003 Mercedes
C320 Sports Coupe with a 6sp manual transmission in brilliant silver..  I
was going to get the C230 compressor, but the increase to the 320 engine was
had for an extra $20 a month.. So I went for the extra grunt.. Great torque
band and extra horses..

Cheers
Ron Janjua
03 MB C320 Sports Coupe

"To put it in simple terms, politics defines what people want;
government decides what they get.  For democracy to work,
government must respond to politics (Shogan, 1982)


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:51:52 +0000
From: "Greg Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E46 Winter Tire Suggestions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

With the recent talk of winter tires, I wanted to ask the list their 
recomendations for winter tires on a 2000 328ci.  In my previous BMW I used 
all season M+S tires all year round.  This year I want to have a dedicated 
set of tires and wheels for the winter.  I plan on putting the winter tires 
on a set of Style 44 17x8 7 spoke wheels.  I live in the Philadelphia area 
where we don't get a lot of snow but we do see our fair share.  So I was 
wondering what other people used in winter conditions such as this where 
there will be some snow but for the most part you are driving on dry 
pavement.  I know this could be a personal preference question with 
different answers and that is fine as I am I looking for feedback on which 
tire to use for the conditions I described.  Thanks for your help.

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays!  Snappier product search... 
http://shopping.msn.com


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:05:54 -0500
From: "Lowe, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations needed for a jack and jack stands...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sears now has a nice looking aluminum jack for $179 now ($169 with
Craftsman Club card).  It's red and has a nice carrying handle at the
handle end (opposite end of the wheels).  I like to carry the jack from
there rather than from the side.

Regards,
Dan 


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:26:44 -0500
From: "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A few questions...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



1993 318is related questions...

What's the usual failure mode of the idle stabilizer?  The car stumbles at idle.  No 
miss or anything when
under load, just stumbles while idling.  Stabilizer, or vacuum leak?  Is there a way 
to test the stabilizer?

I managed to knock out a lens on my glasses, which went down the defroster vent in the 
dash...  Any easy
way to retrieve this, other than flipping the car over and shaking it?  :^)

I looked in the archives about mufflers... what's the general concensus on after 
market mufflers?  Good/bad, just stick with stock?

Still have a slight shudder under moderate braking...  car has new struts/shocks 
(Bilsteins), new rotors (front and back), new control arms w/balljoints, x-brace, and 
has done this through 2 sets of tires and rims...  what else is left to change?


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:47:23 -0500
From: "David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];, [EMAIL PROTECTED];,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED];, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: M30 cylinder head R and Ramblings
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 >>Any
assistance from the group on this head fix welcomed and greatly
appreciated.
 >

John, I did my cylinder head at 141,000 miles(cam r and r ), then again 
when I lost the gasket at 225,000 on my 88 735i.

The first time I removed the head with manifolds(major pain unhooking fuel 
rail and little injector clips/harness), the second time, following the 
advice of the dealer mechanic that I had recently bought a 1/2 hour lap 
dance at the local strip club (best $20.00 I ever spent)  I undid the 
intake manifold from the head, and left it in the car.  This meant that I 
didn't need to unhook throttle, cruise control, Fuel injectors, and a 
variety of other time consuming items to unhook, break, and re 
install..Much easier.. like 6 hours easier!  The head was a lot lighter 
without the intake on it as well, I was able to install it without using a 
hoist the second time, solo.

I used stock head gaskets both times, there is a minimum head thickness 
that needs to be observed.. if you don't mill the head much in 
reconditioning, you don't need the thick head gasket.

The first time I did the head and cam, and I took the whole thing to the 
local NAPA machine shop, where they did a valve job, and changed and 
reassembled the head for me.  I have personally done a 2002 head cam 
reassembly, and it is a fiddly process trying to hold the valves down while 
you install the cam..it was a lot easier to give the shop the $300 or so it 
cost and let them do all the work.

A trick I have heard for installing the cam is to use one of those KD lever 
valve compressors, and block the valves open with little pieces of wood to 
hold the rockers up to get the cam in.  The rocker shafts have cutouts for 
the head bolts, so they need to be properly clocked on reassembly, or the 
head bolts won't go in.

My dealer buddy told me that he has seen a lot of people bend valves in a 
head replacement.

Be very careful to have all the pistons at the midpoint of their travel 
when you reinstall the head, then they can't bend the open valves. You can 
then roll the engine up to #1 and #6   at TDC with the cam at  #1 cyl both 
valves closed(both cam lobes  pointing directly away from the rockers) and 
reinstall the cam sprocket and chain, and tensioner.    I'd say it took me 
about 20 hrs to do the whole job the second time.

I used a wire brush and a grinder to decarbonize the pistons, taped off the 
other jugs to keep the crud out.
Make up a piece of plywood with 2x4's on it for a skid to hold the open 
valves away from the skid, and securely fasten the head to it for 
transportation so you don't bend the valves in transit.

AT 141k the valves were  ground, and the valve stem seals were new, the 
next time the shop just cleaned and vacuum checked the head, and gave it 
back to me stating that all was perfect and it wasn't necessary to do the 
valves.  The head gasket set that Bavarian auto sells is pretty good 
<www.bavauto.com >, I think Elwing makes it, the same as OEM according to 
the dealer guy when he looked it over.  I think that was about $160.00

The Bentley manual (I used the 535i manual, same motor) states that the cam 
sprocket timing mark needs to be at 12:00...well it is straight up relative 
to the engine, but these are slant six motors, and it is 12:00 relative to 
engine centerline, but not relative to the installation in the car(more 
like 1:30)..took me a few tries to get that right.

My dealer buddy doesn't use the two stage torquing recommended, he goes to 
70 ft lbs with pretty good luck.  Dan Patzer says to retorque..and I agree 
with him.  I found the firewall end two bolts to need a lot more retorque, 
in fact since that is where the head gasket blew, I would guess that the 
design lends itself to moving there more.   By the way, did you have one 
steam cleaned spark plug? mine was a very clean #6 plug due to the coolant 
leak.

Well, off the top of my head, this is about all I can remember, I hope this 
helps.  Remember to use new copper washers on the cam oil spray bar, and 
remember to install it so the holes line up with the cam lobes, and loctite 
the banjo bolts so they don't back out.

I like to roll the engine over a few times manually with the plugs out so I 
can make sure the valves and the pistons aren't going to smash into each 
other and wreck my day!  better to find out this way than when you turn it 
over with the starter!  If memory serves(check before you try)  I think pin 
11 on the diagnostic plug is the one which will allow you to use a remote 
starter switch to turn the starter without ignition..very useful when 
setting up the valve train.  I use a paper clip in the plug pin hole, and 
get 12v from the remote battery lug under the hood.

Hope this helps

Dave Leonard
88 735i w 252k miles, and a new British Racing Green paint job(DIY! in the 
garage) It still runs as strong as the day I bought it, and the tranny had 
no gunk in it when I just changed the filter!
91 325ic (about to journey to the airplane hangar for hibernation)


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:19:10 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LSD Bolt Torque - Please Verify
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have it on good authority (Brett Anderson, Bob Conway) that I should check
the bolts holding the LSD unit in the medium case M3 4.10:1 diff I bought
before installing it in my car.  OK, the cover is off, I found the bolts,
and the spec is 33 NM.  A handy dandy web site tells me the conversion is 1
NM = 0.738 ft lbs, so this is 24 ft lbs.

Is that all?  Well, that and the Loctite, but that seems kinda wimpy.  Can
anyone confirm that I've done the conversion correctly?  My 3/8 inch drive
torque wrench (recently calibrated at the Bay Area Bimmerheads Torque Wrench
Testing Party held at my house, of all places) does not have a Newton-Meter
scale.

I don't have a real good way to test the torque short of putting a wrench on
the bolts and seeing what happens.  They don't *look* loose.

Thanks,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
1990 325i  waiting for diff swap
1991 325i  providing back-up transport in case I get the '90 apart and need
parts or something




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