The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 709 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: FW: FIA posts more stuff, an open letter from Max Mosley Re: <E30> timing belt Re: <E30> timing belt Re: <E30> timing belt <E30> timing belt (OT) Rob and Radiohead Looking for an E30 in Columbia, SC area Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(13 messages) Re: USGP F1 aka: Bridgestone Tire Test <F1> BMW buys Sauber, to split from Williams <e30> M20 Question Re: <e30> M20 Question Re: <e30> M20 Question Re: USGP F1 aka: Bridgestone Tire Test Need advice on master cylinder / Teves ABS system [No Porsche, BMW content]
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:16:22 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, "'Racing'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'911/993/996'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FW: FIA posts more stuff, an open letter from Max Mosley Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2005/June/220605-01. html# Posted on the FerrariList. I must say, I'm pretty much in agreement with Max Mosely's position on this. The way this is outlined, it really puts the burden on the Michelin teams - and Michelin - to prove otherwise. vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dan Spalding Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:35 PM To: Lista di Ferrari After reading Max Mosley's letter on the FIA website (http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2005/June/220605-01 .html#), I am more certain that the teams should be sanctioned for not running. They outlined several options to the teams for helping ensure both the speed of the Michelin-shod cars being kept down and providing a reasonable margin of safety to the Bridgestone-shod cars from the speed differentials. Further, there were clearly championship points to be made if they had run to the end on the shoddy French tires, so I really think that they cut off their noses to spite their faces, and put Max and the FIA in a bad light for political reasons. Plenty of blame to spread around, but ultimately, it is the team that chose to retire the cars at the end of the formation lap. I think that's all I have to say on it, unless we really want to continue the madness. Clearly, the only difference in the race would have been the number of cars on the track, not the results. Perhaps that would have been better, but to the purists such as us, we all would have known that instead of 4 also-rans (Minardi/Jordan), we would have 14 also-rans out there for what amounts to a lousy race and lousy testing. Maybe it would have been better to see the 14 cars vie for places 7 and 8 though. We have the benefit of hindsight now and can probably say that the safety issues could have been mitigated and run the original course. Dan "Information is not knowledge . . . Knowledge is not wisdom . . . Wisdom is not truth" - Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <E30> timing belt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't see why you cannot do it on a stand. The plugs don't need to be removed, but it does make it easier to turn the crank. I didn't remove them when I did mine, and it was fine. Ryan- Can an E30 timing belt be replaced with the engine on an engine stand? > Does > it matter if the plugs are also removed (tension on the belt)? > > -Kevin > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:26:46 -0500 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Uucdigest Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> timing belt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry, But this qualifies as silly question #2233... Think about it, what possibly could being on a stand have to do at all with whether or not you can change the belt? Ask yourself this... When you build an engine from scratch, do you wait until it is installed to attach a T belt or a T Chain? Have at. Jenny On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't see why you cannot do it on a stand. The plugs don't need to > be > removed, but it does make it easier to turn the crank. I didn't remove > them when I did mine, and it was fine. > Ryan- > > > > > > Can an E30 timing belt be replaced with the engine on an engine stand? >> Does >> it matter if the plugs are also removed (tension on the belt)? >> >> -Kevin >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jenny Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Uucdigest Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> timing belt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> respectfully, I don't think that question can be assumed as silly unless one has built a motor from scratch. It is just a simple question. Ryan- Sorry, But this qualifies as silly question #2233... > > Think about it, what possibly could being on a stand have to do at all > with whether or not you can change the belt? > > Ask yourself this... > > When you build an engine from scratch, do you wait until it is > installed to attach a T belt or a T Chain? > > Have at. > > Jenny > > > On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I don't see why you cannot do it on a stand. The plugs don't need to >> be >> removed, but it does make it easier to turn the crank. I didn't remove >> them when I did mine, and it was fine. >> Ryan- >> >> >> >> >> >> Can an E30 timing belt be replaced with the engine on an engine stand? >>> Does >>> it matter if the plugs are also removed (tension on the belt)? >>> >>> -Kevin >>> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:32:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: <E30> timing belt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks guys, as "always" (a tweak for Tammer). I had a guy lined up to buy the E30 parts car but it fell through so I think I'll continue with taking out the motor/tranny and do the timing belt for the experience. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:11:49 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: (OT) Rob and Radiohead Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Rob, I just wanted to say that I thought that your paragraph about the "black boxes" that ended with the line, "We're from the Government, we're here to help." was great stuff. It reminded me of something from a Radiohead album. -Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:21:10 -0600 From: "David D. Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC List <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Looking for an E30 in Columbia, SC area Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone on the list have a good E30 for sale anywhere close to Columbia, SC? Please reply directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Kelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:41:55 -0700 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(13 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > POV. Interstingly, Todt has stated that he was never asked to agree to put > in a chicane; perhaps because he knowingly refused to attend the meetings at > which a chicane was discussed? This corresponds to Max Mosley's statement, in which he states that Todt was not consulted, there was no reason to do so since the FIA found a chicane unacceptable. John. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:11:32 -0700 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: USGP F1 aka: Bridgestone Tire Test Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quite simply, it's time for Max Mosley to step aside. Despite all the squawking he does about safety and cost containment, the Mad Max era has resulted in a diluted formula, a competition steamrolled by the team that spends the most money on the grid, the virtual disappearance of privateers, and the likelihood of an idiotic CART/IRL-like schism on a global scale. When presented with a real safety crisis, the FIA was rendered impotent, and found itself painted into a corner by its own rules. There is plenty of blame to go around for the USGP debacle, falling mostly on Michelin, but ultimately, the FIA should have found a solution of some kind, even if it meant delaying the race for another day to buy time to sort out the mess. A difficult situation, no doubt, but leaders are appointed to make difficult decisions for the greater good, and the absence of any signs of leadership from the F1 braintrust was achingly apparent. One might argue that the changes the FIA has imposed under Mosley's watch have been implemented for the greater good, but his "this is what is good for you, take it, or I will force it down your throat" style of autocratic management only breeds contempt and intensifies any antagonism that already exists. I've followed F1 since the days of Jean-Marie Balestre. I'm no student of F1 history, and didn't really pay attention to the politics back then, but my recollection was that while he wasn't universally liked either, he never meddled in the on-track affairs to the extent that Mosley has. We know what the teams bring to the table. We know what Bernie brings (and takes) from the table. What exactly does the FIA bring, other than ineffective management and bureaucratic inefficiency? Sanctioning bodies can, and have been replaced before. This should serve as the last straw. I feel sorry for those directly affected by this fiasco, but the idiots in charge of U.S. open wheel racing taught me to divest myself emotionally from all of it a while ago. Who could have ever thought of a scenario where Tony George came out looking like a victim? Too funny. Herman -- "The good thing about being older is you know more and care less" -J. Hatfield ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:19:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: <F1> BMW buys Sauber, to split from Williams Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just spotted this on the CNN International website. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/06/22/sauber.bmw/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:06:29 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: <e30> M20 Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In looking up the procedure for changing the M20 timing belt, I came upon a site for the 528e motor. In the instructions was advice to change the valve cover blind plugs. I don't see these on the RealOEM site diagrams. Do they not exist on the high reving M20? -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:27:07 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <e30> M20 Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you're talking about those little rubber thingies, 2 on each end, that seem to allow the cams to move fore and aft a bit, yes, the high revving M20 has these also. Clarence West Bend, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In looking up the procedure for changing the M20 timing belt, I came upon a > site for the 528e motor. In the instructions was advice to change the valve > cover blind plugs. > > I don't see these on the RealOEM site diagrams. Do they not exist on the > high reving M20? > > -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:38:31 -0400 From: "Bruno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <e30> M20 Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have pictures for the E34 525i but it is the same engine and almost the same procedure (with less room to work with) http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/Maintenance/Engine/M20Timing.asp Bruno Webmaster of the BMW E34 Website: www.bmwe34.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: [UUC] <e30> M20 Question > In looking up the procedure for changing the M20 timing belt, I came upon a > site for the 528e motor. In the instructions was advice to change the valve > cover blind plugs. > > I don't see these on the RealOEM site diagrams. Do they not exist on the > high reving M20? > > -Kevin > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:23:34 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: USGP F1 aka: Bridgestone Tire Test Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> With all the controversy on the USGP, I'll just console myself with the fact that it may simply evolve to the state which Scott got such a kick out of those many moons ago........ http://www.very.de/ -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:25:32 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Racing'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "BMW List" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Need advice on master cylinder / Teves ABS system [No Porsche, BMW content] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, asking in advance for some understanding, as I have the mechanical aptitude of a retarded eggplant.... Looking for some learned advice on rebuilding a master cylinder. Simple, right? Well, not quite. My good friend Andy Sanborn (well known on Rennlist.com) is a 911 racer of some local reknown in New England SCCA. Andy bought his wife a 1995 355 Challenge as a birthday present, and he's having some problems with the braking system. We've traced the problem down to a 'bad' master cylinder - when you step on the brakes, hot or cold, the pedal is soft before finally biting and stopping the car. We've flushed and bled it, and it's not a question of air in the system. Here's the problem. From 1995-1996, Ferrari used a Teves ABS system (later model 355s had a Bosch system). According to Ferrari, the ENTIRE UNIT MUST BE REPLACED AS A WHOLE. $4200. <gasp for air>. Which is ridiculous, right? If we remove the assembly, we're hoping to send the M/C out for a rebuild. So here's the question - is this something that only a shop expert in rebuilding Teves systems can do, or should any reasonably competent shop be able to do this? (any recommendations, btw?) Should we have it overbored to accept larger bushings, or just rebuild it as stock? How much variation IS there in bore sizing on a Teves system? Any other thoughts? I know this is something of a shot in the dark, but, hey, worth asking... TIA! vty, --Dennis A Porsche, a couple of Bimmers, and maybe even a Cavallino toy or two but wishing he had a Challenge painted as cool as Andy and Laurie's Boston . ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
