Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Telesto
Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good, with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and especially if they are willing to vote for ideas they don't fully understand on the

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread toki
On 2020/07/17 16:22, Mark Hung wrote: > My impression as a user regarding LibreOffice Personal ( or Individuals, > Individuals WFH, students ) vs LibreOffice Enterprises is that they might > be different in their features, where LibreOffice Enterprise might have a > bunch of features that suits

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 15:05, Michael Meeks escribió: On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the request for feedback. I have no problem with tools to get

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: > Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating > in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the > request for feedback. I have no problem with tools to get polls / feedback from our

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 15:02, Sophie escribió: Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps a écrit : On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Sophie
Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps a écrit : >On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < >drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: >> > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid >City

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 14:32, Simon Phipps escribió: On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: > > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City > > Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used > >

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote: There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but I don't know many that are Open Source. There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council,

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Mark Hung
Hi Italo, I got a few questions regarding the branding part of the plan, p46-p53. It seems that the need of "editions" is deemed to be necessary, and the "target audience" has been selected as the differentiate criteria implicitly. My impression as a user regarding LibreOffice Personal ( or

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote: > > There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but > I don't know many that are Open Source. > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Kev M
If democraciaOS is not available/up to date I would suggest investigating https://www.loomio.org/ - They are open source under the GPL-license. There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but I don't know many that are Open Source.

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 11:42, Cor Nouws escribió: Hi Daniel, *, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11: As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 11:12, Thorsten Behrens escribió: Hi Franklin, all, Franklin Weng wrote: BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a big deal IMO. Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Daniel, *, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11: > As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists > is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 > subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each. > TDF has

Re: [board-discuss] FLOSS software money ecosystem, in general [was Personal: and software freedom.]

2020-07-17 Thread Telesto
As long as the judgement is based on listing the pro/contra's. That other Office suite are delivering their product to whole range of users does say something, IMHO. Can you get inside those organisations. And do you want to be dependend only large company's. If those paying for features and

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Franklin, all, Franklin Weng wrote: > BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, > tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a > big deal IMO. > Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the community. As I said during the board call -

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Telesto
What is the targeted objective? To get a marketing communication plan passed? I prefer to put that on hold. Consensus about what to do, yes. A plan preparing a change. A Schedule. List of things what needs to be done. Research. Investigating options products/solutions. Markets/ Products. Say,

Re: [board-discuss] Big organisations not contributing

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On 14/07/2020 12:22, Sophi wrote: > There is another item here, I know several orgs buying services from > companies that are not good players with FLOSS communities. This is > something in my view which is important to address Absolutely. So - the original plan here was not just just

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Some problems.

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, I thought I'd pull together a thread that runs through a subset of the comments here: Here is Mark S writing in bugzilla: > Let LibreOffice stay LibreOffice, and let any commercial derivatives > deal with naming issues of their products on their own time. Several other

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each. TDF has today 221 members and this list only 160 people. Therefore, beyond the fact

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread sophi
Hi, Le 09/07/2020 à 16:03, Daniel Armando Rodriguez a écrit : > El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió: >> Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44: >>> Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges comparison meaning we

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 7/16/20 11:36 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Slide 28 > What is the surplus of the sum of "volonteers" and "ecosystem" to form the > "community"? Users? Takers? That is a visual representation of the relationships between volunteers and ecosystem inside the community, and has no relation with the

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 17/07/2020 09.46, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Am 17.07.20 um 08:47 schrieb Michael Weghorn: >> Doesn't TDF fund programming of software when it does tenders? > > Yes, but only in special cases and under limited conditions. Therefore the > tenders have to be carefully thought of and cannot be at free

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Uwe Altmann
Am 17.07.20 um 08:47 schrieb Michael Weghorn: > Doesn't TDF fund programming of software when it does tenders? Yes, but only in special cases and under limited conditions. Therefore the tenders have to be carefully thought of and cannot be at free will. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann