Re: [board-discuss] Re: Libreoffice Vanilla
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:42 AM Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > Hi Dennis, > > Dennis Roczek wrote: > > E.g. You know very well how long which MS Windows version is supported with > > which support plan. In the store you can only guess: > > is it > > * a live time license (buy one, only get this major release updates) > > * some X months supported license > > * buy-one-get-forever-updates license > > * something different > > > Fair points. > > Still, before exploring if/how to address one or more of the above > options, what would you (and others here!) consider a fair deal? Depends. Based on Vanilla having a release cycle close to the TDF official releases and Vanilla representing what TDF/Publisher considers general use version. ie Today this would be 7.0.3 per recent TDF announcement. I would like to see a term that ensures no less than two full update cycles and in some circumstances three updates. At no time would the user have a version not receiving active scheduled updates. 18 months I believe fills all three of my requirements. ie. When the user purchases the initial install that is version 0 - today that is LO 6.4.4 and they would receive update 1 (7.0.3) and finish with update 2 (7.1.3) and depending on where the initial purchase was early in the version 0 availability window possibly one more. (Note; IDK is there a general rule as to which minor update 6.4.x constitutes a move from the cutting edge/power user release the for general user status.) Drew > > Cheers, > > -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Re: Libreoffice Vanilla
I lied - this is really the last comment: 32Bit binary! Why? Of the half dozen versions of LibreOffice I pulled off the MS Store this was the only one that showed up as 32bit - 64bit for all others evern the CIB branded binary. Sorry for the triple post On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:28 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > > Sorry, but one more comment: > > On the MS Store listing it would be good to actually show how long the > buyer will receive updates. > I have in my notes that it is 18 mos, but that came IIRC from the ML > and nowhere on the store listing is that spelled out, at least not > that I can find. > > Thanks again > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:29 PM Drew Jensen > wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > I paid for LibreOffice Vanilla from the MS Store last July and I now > > have a few comments and a question. > > > > I see reference in the application to making a donation to TDF. > > Why would I do that (donate) after I already purchased a license? > > (I also purchased LO powered by CIB and Collabora Office and neither > > include these references to making a donation to TDF; why would LOV be > > different? Because it cost $5 less?) > > > > It would be nice if somewhere, either at the MS Store listing or in > > the application, if there was an actual link to a contact at the > > publisher, ie CIB. > > > > Question; Last week TDF put out a statement that LibreOffice 7.0 is > > now considered the proper release for all users. Can I assume that my > > copy of LibreOffice Vanilla 6.4 will be upgraded to 7.0 shortly? > > > > Thank You > > > > Drew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Re: Libreoffice Vanilla
Sorry, but one more comment: On the MS Store listing it would be good to actually show how long the buyer will receive updates. I have in my notes that it is 18 mos, but that came IIRC from the ML and nowhere on the store listing is that spelled out, at least not that I can find. Thanks again On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:29 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > > Howdy, > > I paid for LibreOffice Vanilla from the MS Store last July and I now > have a few comments and a question. > > I see reference in the application to making a donation to TDF. > Why would I do that (donate) after I already purchased a license? > (I also purchased LO powered by CIB and Collabora Office and neither > include these references to making a donation to TDF; why would LOV be > different? Because it cost $5 less?) > > It would be nice if somewhere, either at the MS Store listing or in > the application, if there was an actual link to a contact at the > publisher, ie CIB. > > Question; Last week TDF put out a statement that LibreOffice 7.0 is > now considered the proper release for all users. Can I assume that my > copy of LibreOffice Vanilla 6.4 will be upgraded to 7.0 shortly? > > Thank You > > Drew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Libreoffice Vanilla
Howdy, I paid for LibreOffice Vanilla from the MS Store last July and I now have a few comments and a question. I see reference in the application to making a donation to TDF. Why would I do that (donate) after I already purchased a license? (I also purchased LO powered by CIB and Collabora Office and neither include these references to making a donation to TDF; why would LOV be different? Because it cost $5 less?) It would be nice if somewhere, either at the MS Store listing or in the application, if there was an actual link to a contact at the publisher, ie CIB. Question; Last week TDF put out a statement that LibreOffice 7.0 is now considered the proper release for all users. Can I assume that my copy of LibreOffice Vanilla 6.4 will be upgraded to 7.0 shortly? Thank You Drew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] 'Free Beer' Office?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 11:44 AM toki wrote: > > On 2020/07/25 07:58, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > for those who complains about LibreOffice campains stating free (like > > free beer), here is a current example from the official LibreOffice account: > > > > https://twitter.com/libreoffice/status/128692953570496/photo/1 > > Both "No Registration" and "No Vendor Lock-in" are about libre, not > gratis. "No Forced Payments" could be either gratis, or libre. True - on the other hand if you look at the LibreOffice Twitter account bio the first word after the URL is 'Free' - it sets the tone. > > Italo Vignoli's _2020/2025 Marketing Communications Plan (with > additional comments)_ Slide 15: "Digital sovereignty issue will become > pervasive". This is something that LibreOffice marketing should > emphasize. The "No ~" image hints at it, but doesn't make it explicit. > > Your cloud, your language, your documents, your way. > > jonathon > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Invitation to public TDF board meeting on Friday, March 13th at 1300 Berlin time
Got it, thanks. I was planning on joining the call to support Franklin's ideas on Document Freedom Day. Will look forward to hearing about this also. Thanks On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:17 PM Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Drew, > > On 11/03/2020 17:43, Drew Jensen wrote: > > I was wondering about the 'FOSDEM goals' is there something that should > > be read before that meeting or is the meeting meant to introduce them? > > The latter =) the old & new boards came up with some key goals for > the > year a month or go or so at FOSDEM - we intended to publish them at the > time, but havn't got to it yet. > > Hopefully we can get to that, > > ATB, > > Michael. > > -- > michael.me...@collabora.com <><, GM Collabora Productivity > Hangout: mejme...@gmail.com, Skype: mmeeks > (M) +44 7795 666 147 - timezone usually UK / Europe >
Re: [board-discuss] Invitation to public TDF board meeting on Friday, March 13th at 1300 Berlin time
Howdy, I was wondering about the 'FOSDEM goals' is there something that should be read before that meeting or is the meeting meant to introduce them? Thanks Drew On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:45 PM Florian Effenberger < flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Dear community, > > find below the public agenda for the > > TDF board meeting > with a public part, followed by a private part > on Friday, March 13th at 1300 Berlin time > > For time zone conversion, see e.g. > > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20200313T13=37=136=241=589 > > at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard > (We'll use https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard only as fallback.) > > Public Part > > 1. Q: Answering Questions from the community (Lothar and Franklin, > max. 20 minutes) > > Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions > to the new board and about TDF. > > 2. Finalizing and publishing the FOSDEM goals (Lothar, Franklin 10min) > > Rationale: clarifying todos, timeline > Proposal: reread and cluster FOSDEM goals for publishing, Blog about > Goals in the next 14 days, instantiation of a tracking tool for the goals > > 3. Take over Document Freedom Day campaign by TDF (Franklin, 10min) > > Rational: discuss take over, checking about consensus to do, next > steps (vote via email?) > > 4. Status quo about Pending Actions (Lothar 5min) > > Rational: clarifying todos, timeline > > Looking forward to hear you on Friday! > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger, Executive Director (Geschäftsführer) > Tel: +49 30 5557992-50 | Mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org > The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE > Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: > https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > >
[board-discuss] Membership Committee position
In order to facilitate seating of all Membership Committee rolls via election by the Document Foundation general membership, I hereby resign my position on the committee. Sincerely, Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] membership application/language and supporters
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:25 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:36 AM, sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: This is what language communities are supposed to do : give those who don't speak English a chance to be part of the project. We can't rely only on English speaking people to grow the community and represent it every where in the world. This is why settling each of our actions on an i18n point of view first is very important. That conjure to me the following quote (from a brazillian TDF member on the aooo-dev ML) 4 - Suddenly, TDF was requesting that every person who wanted to be called a contributor should fill a agreement request in order to be recognized. So we became to be concerned about that huge amount of people who contributed and didn't want to fill a formal agreement to a foreign organization that don't speak their language and has a lot of channels, many of them obscured. 5 - In addition, people who we were fighting bacame key persons in TDF. One of them became a brazilian member of the BoD, with 70 votes, when brazilian accepted members in Brazil were less than 15 and most of them didn't vote for him. Which, to me, indicate that the language barrier is being use and abuse to mislead (*), and the underlying 'nationalism' is disturbing to me. the notion the TDF should be the UN with 'national representative' is pretty scary (**) :-( Hi Norbert I think you make too much of the statement from one person. Some people will leave in a huff, no matter what policies are in place. I also think that what you refer to as a problem with Nationalism is not, rather it is a problem with external organizations, and the relationship between them and TDF. No place is this more true, currently then in Brazil, but it is not exclusive to Brazil. It is true that these secondary (from the TDF perspective) organizations are predominantly defined, partly, by location and therefore Nation. //drew (*) TDF does not _require_ anything to 'contribute'. for code contribution we ask for the proper licensing... but that is true of nay project. member need to be contributors but contributors are not required to be member. For instance last time I checked Tor is not a member, yet he is undeniably a contributor. Sure, to become a member, one is asked to agree to the tenet of the organization one want to become a member of... nothing shocking about that... (**) the notion of 'brazillian' member is shocking to me, just like the notion of 'French' member or 'Finnish' member... a member is a member, his national origin is irrelevant. And voting for a BoD member based on such irrelevant criteria is disturbing to me.
Re: [board-discuss] MC minutes from 2012-03-19
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:19 +0200, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2012/4/18 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: find attached the meeting minutes from the MC meeting on March 19th. This message is to be archived by the BoD and its deputies. What about http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Meeting_Minutes ? I just realized that some minutes are missing there. Even a link to the minutes-mail in the archive should be added there. IMHO. Others? Hi Volker Yes, you are correct the page does need updates. I'll get about doing that, directly. Thanks //drew
Re: [board-discuss] Re: Community Bylaws
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 21:31 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Drew, drewjensen wrote on 2012-02-28 20:47: I simply wanted to comment on one aspect of Florian's email - the idea that discussion regarding community by-laws was taking place in private. I personally can not imagine any scenario where such would be acceptable. what exactly are you referring to? The community bylaws have not even been drafted yet in the form we legally need them as defined in the statutes. Hi Florian From the first email in this thread: Hi, Charles-H.Schulz wrote on 2012-02-06 18:25: Private sending first. Attached are a set of similar yet simplified community bylaws. What was modified: sorry for being so late on this, Charles. Replying in public, since I think the topic is interesting to everyone. Does it make more sense now - also it need not be a major discussion, it's just a comment. //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 22:18 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 05/23/2011 10:06 PM, drew wrote: My email to you was an inquiry about budgets for general show material. snip In any case, we should have some budget for giveaways and other small marketing expenses. Hi, Yes, it would help to have some guidance, perhaps if only towards general expectations for planning purposes. To re-cap there are three upcoming events that I am reasonably certain about our ability to have a presence - OSCON [1] (not sure on size, large) in July, a linux fest[2] ( with ~1,000 ppl) in 2 weeks and another Linux fest[3] in September ( 1,000 ppl). Of those three I would say that all other things being equal I would recommend more TDF expenditure emphasis on OSCON, over the two linux fests. Of course that is contingent on what exactly we could put together for staffing at OSCON. Thanks and best wishes, Drew [1] http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011 [2] http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/home [3] http://ohiolinux.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] By-Laws / BOD elections
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 15:40 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Members get the right to vote, and to elect other Members, on a one member, one vote basis - that really was the question, not specific logistics. Great, no need to follow up any further on this here, for me. Best wishes, Drew -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
