Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-25 Thread William Gathoye (LibreOffice)
On 25/03/2021 13:43, Guilhem Moulin wrote: No idea how much it evaluation it received from the then BoD, but FWIW that project was mentioned in passing on this very list 4 years ago during the discussion that got /foundation/code-of-conduct published and adopted:

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-25 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi, On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 23:34:50 +0100, Emiliano Vavassori wrote: > Il 23/03/21 23:27, William Gathoye (LibreOffice) ha scritto: >> I know you have been working on this (cf. occurrences in "Board of >> Directors Meeting 2021-03-12" and even back from the days Marina was at >> the board), I'm

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Dear community, we are aware of the recent developments around FSF and Richard Stallman's role in their board, and do take your concerns very seriously, as we do share them. TDF is currently preparing an official statement and discusses further steps. We will send out official communication

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-24 Thread Marina Latini
On 24.03.2021 00:59, Simon Phipps wrote: Instead, I am asking the Board to suspend FSF's membership of TDF's Advisory Board until such time as they regain the authority that led to them being freely offered the role in the first place and which they have squandered by their recent actions. I

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Michael, Simon, On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:59:27PM +, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:16 PM Michael Meeks > wrote: > > > > Perhaps more measured than: Which shows that there are some measured and uncontroversial things that _need_ to be said in this situation

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:16 PM Michael Meeks wrote: > > On 23/03/2021 18:56, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > Am 23.03.21 um 19:11 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > >> OSI statement: https://opensource.org/OSI_Response > > > > great and consequent statement. > > Perhaps more measured than: > >

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On 23/03/2021 18:56, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Am 23.03.21 um 19:11 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >> OSI statement: https://opensource.org/OSI_Response > > great and consequent statement. Perhaps more measured than: https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ Which is gathering steam,

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Brett Cornwall
On 2021-03-23 17:46, Simon Phipps wrote: I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given other organisations[2] are choosing to disconnect FSF

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Emiliano Vavassori
Il 23/03/21 23:27, William Gathoye (LibreOffice) ha scritto: Also, this RMS situation is the perfect timing to have/enforce a proper contributor agreement/code of conduct/manifesto/call-it-what-you-want-to agreement without the need to reinvent the wheel. Which is already in place since some

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread William Gathoye (LibreOffice)
On 23/03/2021 22:18, Marina Latini wrote: Agree, what happened is unbelievable and TDF should take distance. Also, this RMS situation is the perfect timing to have/enforce a proper contributor agreement/code of conduct/manifesto/call-it-what-you-want-to agreement without the need to

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread William Gathoye (LibreOffice)
On 23/03/2021 22:18, Marina Latini wrote: Agree, what happened is unbelievable and TDF should take distance. +1 and I would even answer, that I would personally take distance from TDF if TDF dodges an answer on that topic (and we should all too). Silence gives consent, right? Views

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Marina Latini
On 23.03.2021 18:46, Simon Phipps wrote: Hi Simon, all, I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given other organisations[2] are choosing

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 05:46:18PM +, Simon Phipps wrote: > I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has > demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as > bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given other organisations[2] >

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Andreas Mantke
Am 23.03.21 um 19:11 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > OSI statement: https://opensource.org/OSI_Response > great and consequent statement. Regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Italo Vignoli
OSI statement: https://opensource.org/OSI_Response On 3/23/21 6:46 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Simon Phipps
I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given other organisations[2] are choosing to disconnect FSF from their governance, TDF's Board should

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Michael, all, Am 23.03.21 um 12:11 schrieb Michael Meeks: > Hi Andreas, > > On 23/03/2021 10:07, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> What's the position of TDF board on this topic ? > As you know this sort of question is a very easy one to ask but as with > anything where there are a wide diversity

Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Andreas, On 23/03/2021 10:07, Andreas Mantke wrote: > What's the position of TDF board on this topic ? As you know this sort of question is a very easy one to ask but as with anything where there are a wide diversity of opinions - tends to be an extraordinarily expensive one to answer

[board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members

2021-03-23 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, I read about the change in the board of the FSF, a member of the TDF Advisory Board: https://www.zdnet.com/article/richard-m-stallman-returns-to-the-free-software-foundation-board-of-directors/ There are a lot of contributors in the Free Software business, which are seeing this change toxic