Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Sean Quinlan
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:56 -0500, Adam Turoff wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 03:39:04AM -0500, Tom Metro wrote: For me, popularity matters for two reasons: 1. If you like Perl enough that you'd like it to be all or a big part of your day job. If Perl per se matters to you that much,

[Boston.pm] regex in RHS of s/// spotted

2005-03-03 Thread Kripa Sundar
Hi all, An unnamed White House source today stated that regexes are beginning to infiltrate the RHS of substitutions, and thus threaten our national security. This was corroborated by the following sighting: s/Perl/(Bike Riding|Gardening|Cooking|Painting|Teaching|Filmmaking)/; :-) :-) for the

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread James Eshelman
Tom, thanks for voicing many of the same concerns I've had recently, especially as I watched this debate evolve. I too have been making a living for several years working in Perl, and would much prefer to continue doing so into the future. I've worked in many languages in over 30 years of

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Greg London
Adam Turoff said: If Perl per se matters to you that much, then you should find some way to make it your day job. Find a new employer, start your own business, whatever it takes. s/Perl/(Bike Riding|Gardening|Cooking|Painting|Teaching|Filmmaking)/; as appropriate. There is nothing magical

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Sean Quinlan
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 10:59 -0500, Adam Turoff wrote: Discuss advocacy and popularity at the expense of building cool tools with Perl. Huh?!? Sorry Adam, but WTF? Who ever said that building cools tools isn't important. I would certainly agree that it is, and indeed more important. I'm saying

Re: [Boston.pm] regex in RHS of s/// spotted

2005-03-03 Thread Gyepi SAM
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:45:28AM -0500, Kripa Sundar wrote: An unnamed White House source today stated that regexes are beginning to infiltrate the RHS of substitutions, and thus threaten our national security. This was corroborated by the following sighting: s/Perl/(Bike

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Greg London wrote: Adam Turoff said: On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:33:20AM -0500, Sean Quinlan wrote: If Perl per se matters to you that much, then you should find some way to make it your day job. Find a new employer, start your own business, whatever it takes.

Re: [Boston.pm] regex in RHS of s/// spotted

2005-03-03 Thread Kripa Sundar
s/Perl/(Bike Riding|Gardening|Cooking|Painting|Teaching|Filmmaking)/; Oddly enough, the the syntactically correct code does not quite have the same meaning or elegance. ... \begin{nitpick} The s/// is already syntactically correct. :-) \end{nitpick} ... Note that I modified the list

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread John Tsangaris
I've *never* been hired to do perl coding. I've been hired to write software to solve problems. I think that he didn't mean that literally, but more of a general statement of solving problems specifically using perl. :-/ Sneaking in perl code is unprofessional. All code you write should be

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Tom Metro
Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Perl per se matters to you that much, then you should find some way to make it your day job. Hmmm...isn't that sort of what were talking about? If there's no job market for Perl, that's kinda hard to do. Even if you run a business where Perl is embedded,

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Ben Tilly
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:46:19 -0500 (EST), Greg London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Devers said: I think it would be nice if Perl were more popular. I don't think advocacy is a bad thing. I don't think certification, or courses, are unreasonable. But of the ways I can think of to make

[Boston.pm] CPAN distributions

2005-03-03 Thread Duane Bronson
CPAN bundles: Aren't CPAN bundles always source distributions? PPM is actually better than CPAN because it's a pre-built distribution, except that it only works with Windows (I think) and if a build fails, the last working build is blown away and the module is unavailable. RPM alternative:

RE: [Boston.pm] CPAN distributions

2005-03-03 Thread Ricker, William
Surprisingly Active State maintains a Perl distribution for (RedHat) Linux (or at least they did), and I believe a repository of PPMs as well. And also Solaris and IBM AIX. I think the Linux Perl build and PPMs are likely to run on any reasonably normal Intel Linux, but not sure -- with the

Re: [Boston.pm] CPAN distributions

2005-03-03 Thread Uri Guttman
BR == Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BR As machines get faster and ease of cross-platform installation gets more BR important, I expect the need for C-level hackery will go down. I BR suspect this is overused even at present. Several years ago, I wound up BR rewriting a mini-app

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Greg London
Ben Tilly said: Greg, I really feel that if anyone is overreacting here, it is you. I'll try once more, after which I'll stop responding to you because you don't appear to be listening. Your message has been along the line of, We just have to try this and great things will happen. I'm

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 16:15 -0500, Greg London wrote: Ben Tilly said: I think responses are more along the lines of, certification introduces a lot of problems, and we don't see how you'll make a certification become accepted. I don't know how it can be done, so it must not be possible.

Re: [Boston.pm] why popularity matters

2005-03-03 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:52 -0500, Greg London wrote: Did you ever get a cool idea for a problem and just dive into it, explore it, learn about it, try out different things, and play? Yes. When I do that, I don't post to a public list saying, what if I just take this line of code, and move it