Re: [Boston.pm] a question

Were you surprised by Daylight Savings Time? On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:32 AM dan moylan wrote: > > > in fiddling with a perl script to calculate the variable > > dates dependent on the date of easter, using Time::Local, i > > got the wrong answers for shrove tuesday 47 and ash

Re: [Boston.pm] perl 5.10 memory leak?

> > Thanks, Matthew! I'd like to know how you found that. Google didn't help > me. > Duane > > On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:58 AM, Matthew Horsfall (alh) <wolfs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Matthew Horsfall (alh) > <wolfs...@gmai

Re: [Boston.pm] perl 5.10 memory leak?

ture-proof that way. Now, if I can add a destructor > to the class 'version', maybe I can future proof that way, although I've > tried that and failed. I think it might be a bug in the comparison logic > (overloading?), but I can't find that code. Is that built into perl? > > Du

Re: [Boston.pm] perl 5.10 memory leak?

Module upgrades may not be likely, but I was responding to the first question which was: "...I suspect there are better methods that won't break with a future version of IO::All." On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Conor Walsh <c...@adverb.ly> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at

Re: [Boston.pm] perl 5.10 memory leak?

wer perl and conditionally add it to the package. > > Yes, our product is using scientific linux 6.3 which uses perl 5.10.x, and > our customers and QA don't like hot fixes that replace nearly every RPM. > In fact, they would probably prefer the memory leak. > > Duane > > On Dec 13

Re: [Boston.pm] perl 5.10 memory leak?

There is always a risk when working with the internals of another module. I would minimize that risk by making sure that the DESTROY that you are replacing always runs. Just in case something gets added to it. And capture the reference to it in a way that will notice if DESTROY is eliminated.

Re: [Boston.pm] Search terms help?

I didn't read those articles, but then they wouldn't have been aimed at me. The only trick is that you have to load those modules and have an import method that calls their import method. If you're exporting specific functions into their namespace, the best way to do so is to import those

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: recommendation of billing services for consulting work needed

I've used Freshbooks for this in the past. I am currently using the Hours Keeper app on my phone. Both work well. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Adam Russell wrote: > In addition to my full time job I do some consulting about 10-15 hours a > week.Up until now I have

Re: [Boston.pm] Max perl runtime?

You can run it indefinitely. But do set up a cron to check that it is running and restart at need. This will make sure it is still there after a reboot or an unhappy run in with the OOM killer. On Wednesday, May 20, 2015, ja...@nova-sw.com wrote: I'm running a small simple tcp udp monitoring

Re: [Boston.pm] object composition (has-a) with built-in OO system

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: My experience has been that having a page instance be mangled in some way to behave like a book is almost always going to be a regrettable coding

Re: [Boston.pm] object composition (has-a) with built-in OO system

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Adam Russell ac.russ...@live.com wrote: I've been doing OO for years with pure-OO type environments such as Ruby Do smalltalkers accept Ruby's claims? Their native OO is more OO than P5's

Re: [Boston.pm] object composition (has-a) with built-in OO system

/Fixnum.html for details. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: Do smalltalkers accept Ruby's claims? Their native OO is more OO than P5's (but we have choices), but is arithmetic really done with messages

Re: [Boston.pm] object composition (has-a) with built-in OO system

I read the presentation. It is hard to know where to begin on responding. There are a lot of true facts presented, and it all sounds very clever. But the big picture is completely wrong. Yes, there is overhead with arrays, and yes you over allocate space. (My memory says 5/4, not by 2, but

Re: [Boston.pm] object composition (has-a) with built-in OO system

Just so that you know, it is very hard to find a use case for linked lists in Perl where a native array is not a better option. That said, why draw a distinction between a node in a linked list and a linked list? I would just have one class, that is a reference to a node. (That itself might have

Re: [Boston.pm] Help with symbol table munging...

What our does is binds the package variable to lexical scope. So a package after an our doesn't change the variable. But if you have the our *after* the package then it will bind the correct package. So in your eval put the package statement before our %map and you'll be fine. Incidentally if

Re: [Boston.pm] Help with symbol table munging...

see how to do this with a string eval, but I'm hoping to avoid having to keep the functions as text strings. If I can't find any other way, it's what I will have to fall back on, but I'm hoping there's some way to avoid this. Ricky On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com

Re: [Boston.pm] $10K programming contest in Boston

I like the line where they say, You might recognize this problem as intractable in general. Yup, bin packing problem. Standard example of an np-complete problem. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+boston...@gmail.com wrote: Local company Vistaprint is running a programming

Re: [Boston.pm] directed Graph modules in perl and CPAN

For a specific one-off specific task like this, I would assume that would take more work to find and evaluate a module that solves my problem than it would take to roll my own solution. Heck, in this case you can arrange it as a map-reduce. Your initial map takes each file, and spits out

Re: [Boston.pm] suppressing warnings

If your module has an import method, and in that method calls warnings-unimport(once) then the unimport should be lexically scoped to where your package was used. Which in the normal case is the whole file, so it works. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Jordan Adler jordan.m.ad...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Boston.pm] C++ books

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Mike Small sma...@panix.com wrote: Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: Why use macros when you can write a function? Lisp weenie answer: because the arguments to functions may produce

Re: [Boston.pm] C++ books

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:02 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: On 15/04/2013 19:35, Ben Tilly wrote: I'm writing some C++ at the moment that fits into the first group (performance-critical code). For unit testing I've been emitting TAP protocol and testing it with prove

Re: [Boston.pm] Test code generation (was C++ books)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Gyepi SAM gy...@praxis-sw.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:35:22AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: For unit testing I've been emitting TAP protocol and testing it with prove

Re: [Boston.pm] C++ books

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: [...] So, I've been doing verilog testbenches for years, system verilog test benches for years, and they all have their limtations as not being what I would call a real language. So, I'm trying to write a testbench in

Re: [Boston.pm] Tech Meeting Tuesday Apr 9th, Embedded Perl with Federico, 7, MIT E51-376

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+boston...@gmail.com wrote: Greg London wrote: [...] Perl's bolt-on version of classes can fix this about as easily as perl's closure stuff can fix it. The closure version doesn't scale. You can't stick it in a library and call it from

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl and recursion

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Bob Rogers rogers-...@rgrjr.dyndns.org wrote: From: Gyepi SAM gy...@praxis-sw.com Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:54:06 -0400 On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 10:24:45PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [...] Because your example handles a single result, it is not clear

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl and recursion

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: at each level of recursion. What seems to be the case though is that when we start going bac up the stack that memory doesn't seem to be released at each pop. If, say, at max depth 500mb of ram has been allocated I don't see

Re: [Boston.pm] Passing large complex data structures between process

Pro tip. I've seen both push based systems and pull based systems at work. The push based systems tend to break whenever the thing that you're pushing to has problems. Pull-based systems tend to be much more reliable in my experience. You have described a push-based system. I would therefore

Re: [Boston.pm] Passing large complex data structures between process

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, John Redford eire...@hotmail.com wrote: Ben Tilly emitted: Pro tip. I've seen both push based systems and pull based systems at work. The push based systems tend to break whenever the thing that you're pushing to has problems. Pull-based systems tend

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl and recursion

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Conor Walsh c...@adverb.ly wrote: On Apr 5, 2013 8:24 PM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: as for your ram usage, all recursions can be unrolled into plain loops by managing your own stack. this is a classic way to save ram and sub call overhead. with

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl and recursion

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: THEORY Ever general computer science over-simplification has a BUT that is very important. Recursion is as efficient as iteration ... ... IF AND ONLY IF Tail Recursion Optimization is in effect. When Tail Recursion is

Re: [Boston.pm] CPAN.pm module? h2xs replacement?

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.orgwrote: Kind of intrigued: what's new or any changes on the book particularly? A couple of the modules that he wrote for the book were best thinking

Re: [Boston.pm] distributed computing in dynamic languages

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: On 05/04/2012 02:07 PM, Federico Lucifredi wrote: Pragmatic Programmers has just announced a book on distributed programming in Ruby. Somewhat the possibility never occurred to me :) I am wondering, is there some

Re: [Boston.pm] backticks tee'd to stdout ?

Sounds like you're suffering from buffering: http://perl.plover.com/FAQs/Buffering.html The only way to solve your problem is to convince the program that it should not buffer its output. Sometimes you'll have a command switch you can hit to force that (particularly if you wrote those

Re: [Boston.pm] [Bob Rogers] Please confirm your message

For him to discuss it off list would be pointless because his emails will bounce until he goes through the confirmation. At which point he won't have spam to deal with. That said, I understand Randal's position. It makes emails inaccessible to anyone who doesn't see the bounce message for any

Re: [Boston.pm] Advice on Perl for RPM?

I've just finished 2 weeks of packaging a ton of CPAN modules into rpms. Before that I had never touched the format. So I have some recent very direct experience with packaging rpms, from the point of view of a novice. My first reaction is to ask why you would want this? To use it you have to

Re: [Boston.pm] Advice on Perl for RPM?

I had missed that. I suspect that for what I was doing it would have saved a lot of work - except where it wouldn't. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Steve Scaffidi step...@scaffidi.net wrote: Have you checked this out? http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPANPLUS-Dist-RPM -- -- Steve Scaffidi

Re: [Boston.pm] Advice on Perl for RPM?

the RPM one, but the dpkg one is decent. I *have* used cpan2dist, which might actually use that module under-the-covers. I recall it worked pretty well. on debian we have dh-make-perl which is *quite* nice. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: I had missed that. I

Re: [Boston.pm] not regular expression

Try ^(?!.*pattern here) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: I'm dealing with a perl gui tool that has a regular expression search tool. The tool takes whatever is in the gui window and then does a regularexpre ssion search through a bunch fo fields. THe

Re: [Boston.pm] profiling memory usage

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: Some code I'm working on is triggering an out of memory error, and I'd like to figure out what specifically is responsible. (It's a complex system with dozens of libraries and it runs in parallel across a cluster of

Re: [Boston.pm] Lightweight module for web service calls?

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Peter Wood pw...@christianbook.com wrote: Hi Uri, https is just http over an ssl socket with a different port than http. you can use IO::Socket::SSL for that. but the problems you will run into are wide and varied which is why LWP is so large. if you know

Re: [Boston.pm] Lightweight module for web service calls?

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Conor Walsh c...@adverb.ly wrote: On 2/16/2011 1:14 PM, Duane Bronson wrote: Peter, Interesting that the question how do I do X has no answer except don't do X.  Engineers prefer to give flawless answers to flawless questions and when the questions sound

Re: [Boston.pm] use Moose ?

You can get a good overview of what Moose does for you on a large project from Ovid's blog where he discussed Moose as he was learning it. Let me grab a few relevant entries: http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38649 http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38662 http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38705

Re: [Boston.pm] should closing a file descriptor also close the accompanying file handle?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Brian Reichert reich...@numachi.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 09:59:12PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: why are you concerned about closing the DATA handle? it is internal to the program. actually it is the handle the perl binary uses to read the source file and

Re: [Boston.pm] $#{$Queue}

Check perlvar. It is the index of the last array element, which is one less than the size. @$Queue will give you the size in scalar context. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: what the heck? my $Queue = \...@somearray; if ($#{$Queue} = -1){  # do

Re: [Boston.pm] my lang is better than your lang!

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: gack, this thread is annoying. so here are some high level philosophical questions to think about regarding languages. first off, why are there so many languages? and by many, i mean thousands and more. how many of you

Re: [Boston.pm] Languages to learn in addition to Perl

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:57 AM, John Redford eire...@hotmail.com wrote: [...] Sadly, I cannot recommend a good book on JavaScript, which is a shame because JavaScript is one of the best-designed languages ever.  Perl is actually a pretty good background to learn JavaScript, because it has a

Re: [Boston.pm] tech events in and around Boston

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: http://www.barcampboston.org/ Just missed #5, #6 is the weekend before tax day. Interestingly, O'Reilly was a Media partner for #5. I say interesting because I was under theimpression Bar was created in response to Foo's

Re: [Boston.pm] bareword warnings for __ANON__

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: I have some code with an anonymous sub that uses __ANON__ to set the sub name in logging and error messages (a semi-documented trick) like:        sub {            local *__ANON__ = subname; # name the anon sub        

Re: [Boston.pm] filename wildcard on command line and perl module paths

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: Two unrelated perl queries. First, I have a perl script that needs to pass in via command options a filename that might include wildcards. This filename will be used by the script at a later point, from a different

Re: [Boston.pm] Newbie question

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Laura Bethard betha...@nber.org wrote: [...] I'm not sure if the 3-day will cover what I need to know, and the 5-day is pricey.  I'd prefer a traditional class over an online one, but might consider online with a solid recommendation.  Anyone have any advice?

Re: [Boston.pm] domain theft saga

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: For those of you not on the BLU list, you might find this an interesting read: http://old.nabble.com/Dreamhost-account-hacked-td28062149s24859.html Thanks. I thought that more people should hear about it so I put it on

Re: [Boston.pm] Exceptions as control flow

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Conor Walsh c...@adverb.ly wrote: I _am_ telling you I think exceptions are faster than other control structures _In_ _Some_ _Cases_. I'm happy to explain clarify if I am unclear. I'm curious. Maybe I'm out of my depth, pun not intended, but I was under

Re: [Boston.pm] Exceptions as control flow

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Greg London em...@greglondon.com wrote: In a desktop environment this makes sense.  However in some other contexts, such as real time embedded programming, it likely doesn't. And the issue there is the difference between average running time and worst case

Re: [Boston.pm] Can't alarm() while reading an unbuffered endless line?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Bogart Salzberg webmas...@inkfist.com wrote: Mongers, I recently encountered a puzzling dilemma. You might find it interesting, or obvious (probably not both) and it leads to a question about how perl handles signals. [...] perldoc perlipc Search for

Re: [Boston.pm] s/// with side effects?

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: SB == Samuel Baldwin shardz4...@gmail.com writes:  SB A bit of a side question; when would you ever want to try and match an  SB empty regex? Wouldn't it be semantically saner to use defined? i did mention a common use

Re: [Boston.pm] Meta-user group meeting! May 2nd summit about how to coordinate a user group

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: RW == Ricker, William william.ric...@fmr.com writes: RW We got this thru the Leaders' lists. That's a busy weekend. Maybe Uri, RW Ron and I will draw straws ... i would prefer to draw a gallon of blood! not much

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:42 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:31:29PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote: True, but I have not yet done a single animated slide in my life. Bullets, code and occasionally pictures slapped on a background are all I need. If

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Palit, Nilanjan nilanjan.pa...@intel.com wrote: From: Ben Tilly Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:34 AM Personally I don't like the way that Powerpoint is used because it encourages oversimplification. Also I think that spending great energy on fancy

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Palit, Nilanjan nilanjan.pa...@intel.com wrote: From: Ben Tilly [mailto:bti...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:59 AM It appears that you didn't read what I wrote, then launched a rant that would be better aimed at someone else.I say this because I

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: I dunno about platypus versatility so much as contentder for designed by committee, but I opted not to proffer it earlier because it's the mascot of DarwinOS (OSS OSX core).  http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ Definitely cute

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland. Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying that Boston is part of New York. Ben On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Andrew Langmead andrew.langm...@verizon.net wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:42 -0400, Tom Metro wrote: Do you

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

Gah, I meant that Portland is part of CA is like..etc. (I should drink less before replying to email.) Ben On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland.  Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Andrew Langmead andrew.langm...@verizon.net wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 20:12 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland. I had forgotten that they moved to Portland. I guess its been years since I've even considered

Re: [Boston.pm] software puzzle - extracting longest alphabetical list of phrases from a list of words

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Tolkin, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is just a problem in computer science. It is not directly related to Perl, or to my work. I am looking for insights in how to think about this. The input: a list of words. The output: a partitioning of

Re: [Boston.pm] software puzzle - extracting longest alphabetical list of phrases from a list of words

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Tolkin, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is just a problem in computer science. It is not directly related to Perl, or to my work. I am looking for insights in how to think about

Re: [Boston.pm] Baby boy

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SS == Steve Scaffidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SS The hardest part is cleaning up after the frequent core-dumps. ;) he posted that the initial core dumps were the worst! :) While the initial was worse, HE wasn't the one

Re: [Boston.pm] Net::Server::PreFork - How to make dynamic config changes without bouncing a server

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Ranga Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I go ahead and do something screwy, I thought to ask the public what they do in this case. I realize that one of the children would get the message indicating the changes. If it updates the data structure in memory

Re: [Boston.pm] Net::Server::PreFork - How to make dynamic config changes without bouncing a server

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Tilly wrote: But you'll probably want a plain text file to be written out somewhere in the background to preserve data across server restarts. I think the OP is referring to a typical scenario where you update

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, the problem you're trying to solve is probably something

Re: [Boston.pm] quiz slides and talk: compiler vs. interpreter vs. script

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:33:36 -0700 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Bob Rogers wrote: . . . You can even run code at read time, when the program is being parsed

Re: [Boston.pm] quiz slides and talk: compiler vs. interpreter vs. script

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Lisp goes even farther down the road of blurring the boundary between interpreter and compiler than Perl does. You can even run code at read time, when the program is being parsed by the compiler (or interpreter). Some

Re: [Boston.pm] SOAP? Alternatives?

I feel your pain. On a project last summer my need to interact with WSDL caused me to switch from Perl to Java. But http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/10/0128226 suggests that XML::Compile may now be able to help. There are probably bugs to work out, but at least there is a chance of it

Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] -Short- OSS survey. Help a student get some data so he can get back to hacking!

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Guillermo Roditi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define contribute? Does it include submitting bug reports that do not contain source code? What I had in mind involved source code, but I did not mean to write off the work of bug reporters. I

Re: [Boston.pm] merging lists that are ordered but not sorted

On Jan 29, 2008 10:57 AM, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 29, 2008 12:11 PM, Tolkin, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to reconstruct the underlying list. In other words the order of the elements agrees in all the lists, but there is no sort condition. Example: List 1:

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl Foundation grants

On Dec 22, 2007 5:17 AM, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently listened to some (old) Perlcast news segments by Randal Schwartz and each time he mentioned the TPF grants - talking about what grants were recently awarded and how to apply for them. I wasn't aware that anyone could

Re: [Boston.pm] IE7 and JS image object

On 11/12/07, Alex Brelsfoard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I know this is not so much a JavaScript group, but I figured someone might have heard of what I am running into. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Situation: I am using JavaScript to create an image. It needs to be

Re: [Boston.pm] Subroutine definition

On 9/12/07, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/11/07, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] That said, know your audience. Using functional techniques in Perl should be a deliberate decision. In many programming groups, I'd

Re: [Boston.pm] Subroutine definition

On 9/11/07, Palit, Nilanjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I tried this using the following code, where %format_conv has an entry for each type of conversion needed with a list of items: [...] When I run it, the 'defined' part works fine, but I get an error on the last line: Can't use string

Re: [Boston.pm] Subroutine definition

On 9/11/07, Palit, Nilanjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It is very bad form to use map as a looping construct. Can you elaborate why it is a bad form: readability, performance, ...? Just want to understand the underlying reason. (To me, both the for map inline forms appear to be the same

Re: [Boston.pm] Social Meeting in August

On 8/14/07, Kenneth A Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 11:07 -0400, john saylor wrote: hi On 8/14/07, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or would people rather do something on the weekend? i attend so infrequently, i do not expect my preference to carry

Re: [Boston.pm] Process Mgmt - Recommendations?

On 6/15/07, Charlie Reitzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a Perl module to do process management. We're building a test harness and need to fire up a number of client traffic generators and wait for them all to finish. Do you want them all to be running at once? A

Re: [Boston.pm] Reading a variable CSV file with embeded newlines

On 6/8/07, Gyepi SAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 03:26:56PM -0400, Alex Brelsfoard wrote: I have a CSV file where each line may NOT have the same number of fields. One item per line. xSV is line oriented: as long as each line is well formed it should be parsed

Re: [Boston.pm] overriding instance methods, dynamic package namespaces

On 5/20/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT == Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BT The purpose of using goto there is in case some code uses caller() and BT could get confused about the extra subroutine. (For instance Carp BT would be likely to warn at the enclosing

Re: [Boston.pm] overriding instance methods, dynamic package namespaces

On 5/17/07, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg London wrote: Evals and typeglobs will let you do it. If you don't like that sort of thing (I don't), you can use a module I wrote called SymbolTable which hides all the ugliness for you. Thanks Greg for taking the time to ponder this,

Re: [Boston.pm] overriding instance methods, dynamic package namespaces

On 5/18/07, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Tilly wrote: [...] Also note that AUTOLOAD and inheritance do NOT play well together. That's another reason to avoid that solution. I had that thought as well. Isn't there a workaround where your AUTOLOAD handler can explicitly hand off

Re: [Boston.pm] overriding instance methods, dynamic package namespaces

On 5/18/07, Greg London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sub replace_sub_for_instance { my ($object, $subroutine_name, $new_subroutine) = @_; no strict 'refs'; my $old_subroutine = \$subroutine_name or die Subroutine $subroutine_name not found; my $object_name =

Re: [Boston.pm] overriding instance methods, dynamic package namespaces

On 5/18/07, Greg London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You're looking at the wrong part of the code. I'm referring to how I made sure to capture refaddr before creating the anonymous sub so that the anonymous sub did not have $object in it anywhere. That keeps $object from being in the

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: open source blog, forum, etc., software

On 2/22/07, Bobbi Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who were at the last boston.pm meeting may recall my asking if there was some place where I could find out about various open-source not-necessarily-perl-based blog/wiki/forum software. People kindly threw out some names of OS stuff they

Re: [Boston.pm] glob() bug?

It looks to me like a bug. Your expectation of the expansion looks correct to me, and on Linux I get the behaviour that you wanted from /bin/bash, /bin/sh (links to bash) and /bin/csh (links to /bin/tcsh). It is remotely possible that there is some real csh that disagrees, but if so then I'd

Re: [Boston.pm] Is there a way to search for referrers?

On 2/1/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: js == john saylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] js wtf! it sure ain't ruby. it's still perl that's executing within js apache. it is certainly a different context than what you may be used js to- but you could say that about windows perl

Re: [Boston.pm] Is there a way to search for referrers?

On 2/1/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT == Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BT At this point mod_perl's memory usage scales quite well. In fact any BT alternate platform serving the same load will have similar issues at BT similar volume for the same reasons. The only

Re: [Boston.pm] '/' =~ m\/\b; (bug?)

On 11/15/06, Carl Eklof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys n Gals, I have found some seemingly strange behavior that may be of interest to this list. My assumption was that the \b pattern in a regex would always match the beginning and end of a string (as documented in the perlre page).

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 11/5/06, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a firm believer in expressing things in the most straightforward way possible. Most people find loops straightforward, so I'm happy to use loops unless I have a good reason not to. Most *people* find loops and all other programming

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/29/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:25:32 -0700 [...] Ummm...you've mixed three unrelated things together. 1. Continuations. 2. Closures. 3. Tail call elimination

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/27/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:36:36 -0700 On 10/26/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:09:35 -0700

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/27/06, Tolkin, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Ben, Bob et al., Thanks for this thread. (It has a very high signal to noise ratio, compared with many others.) Dear Everyone, Since this started about Python, in a Perl discussion list, I am wondering about whether

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/26/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:09:35 -0700 On 10/26/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Guido made comparisons to Perl only in two areas

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/24/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:01:39 -0400 I recently listened to: Guido van Rossum: Building an Open Source Project and Community

Re: [Boston.pm] Python

On 10/24/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ben Tilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:12:53 -0700 On 10/24/06, Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:01:39 -0400

Re: [Boston.pm] Parser for C-like language?

On 6/23/06, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:23:09AM -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: On 23 Jun 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a C grammer for Parse::RecDescent ? Not that worked. Damian has acknowledged elsewhere that it shouldn't have been

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