Re: [Boston.pm] March Meeting Tuesday - Messaging Middleware with AMQP and RabbitMQ

2015-03-10 Thread john saylor
On 3/9/15 23:04 , Uri Guttman wrote: i'll be impressed when you have a dead speaker from the future giving a talk! ... brains! -- \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : i am alive ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl community The Rising Costs of Aging Perlers

2013-07-23 Thread john saylor
BEGIN {} On 7/22/13 19:14 , Bill Ricker wrote: http://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2013/07/22/the-rising-costs-of-aging-perlers-part-1-the-data/ this was good and interesting. not earthshaking but nicely done. in the sweep of history [as i know it], i view perl as a stepping stone on the

Re: [Boston.pm] Tuesdays or other for Tech Meetings ?

2013-01-09 Thread john saylor
On 1/8/13 22:28 , Bill Ricker wrote: Wondering why so few (2 and two maybes) RSVP tonight. it ain't like it used to be ... i don't know that this would help, but is it worth looking into maybe broadcasting the meeting over the web ... ? boston ruby does something with google+ and i've

Re: [Boston.pm] 19% more modules on CPAN

2011-11-23 Thread john saylor
On 11/23/2011 01:51 PM, Tom Metro wrote: chromatic tweeted: The CPAN has 11.4% more uploaders, 19.4% more modules, and 14.3% more distributions since *last year's* edition of Modern #perl: The Book.` Perl use is still growing? (Or at least CPAN is.) i'd say that's a valid interpretation of

Re: [Boston.pm] arriving tonight - emergency social meet monday or tuesday?

2011-05-15 Thread john saylor
greetings On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Was there any consensus on a date (tuesday or monday) and/or a place for my emergency social meet? none that i'm aware of ['like herding cats'] not that anyone asked, but what about 'big city' in

Re: [Boston.pm] Comic strip

2011-03-27 Thread john saylor
hi On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Conor Walsh c...@adverb.ly wrote: I haven't checked in recently, but I'm pretty sure that anything he has to present on Perl is not interesting from a Perl perspective and really only interesting from a hey I'm a cool webcomic artist perspective. well, it

Re: [Boston.pm] let's bring damian here

2011-03-07 Thread john saylor
hey On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: at this point i want to just gauge overall interest and possible corporate help. i will get back with more info as i get it. while i am not a bean counter at my place of employment, i have been told by management that

Re: [Boston.pm] Languages to learn in addition to Perl

2010-07-14 Thread john saylor
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Asa Martin asa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions from this group as to what would make sense to put effort into learning next to make myself more marketable in the Boston area? social engineering /rimshot -- \js : verbing weirds language. -calvin

Re: [Boston.pm] Newbie question

2010-05-06 Thread john saylor
hey On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Laura Bethard betha...@nber.org wrote:  I have no formal computer training, but I taught myself to use MySQL and Unix as part of my current position. well, if you can do that, you can learn perl. i know i'm gonna get nailed for this, but if you're just

Re: [Boston.pm] Plan 9

2009-06-26 Thread john saylor
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Tom Metrotmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: Yesterday I saw a Toyota Matrix in Watertown with a vanity plate that read PLAN 9. I wondered if it was someone on one of the local tech lists. yeah- i've seen it too. What was the history again? A bad sci-fi film, then

Re: [Boston.pm] Baby boy

2008-09-29 Thread john saylor
w00t! On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tobias Theodore Kimball-Ware son of Ronald Kimball and Martha Ware congrats- you forked! -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list

Re: [Boston.pm] Meetings July re-schedule and forward / Social

2008-06-28 Thread john saylor
hey On 6/28/08, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about the sunset in allston? we ain't met there for ages. yeah- sunset sounds good to me ... -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org

Re: [Boston.pm] quiz questions

2008-06-10 Thread john saylor
hey On 6/9/08, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the opposite of spaghetti code? fortran cookies -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

Re: [Boston.pm] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-06-05 Thread john saylor
hey On 6/5/08, Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm...so what was your intention? to just send out a few invites to selected people who were already on linkedin. To join, go to: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/41363/6E675551A940 thx! -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]

Re: [Boston.pm] allow user to download a file from web server

2008-01-02 Thread john saylor
hey On 1/2/08, Xiong, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm struggling with CGI::Pretty to implement a button to let users download files from a web server. um, javascript on click handler? -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] ___ Boston-pm mailing list

Re: [Boston.pm] IE7 and JS image object

2007-11-12 Thread john saylor
hey not really perl but wothehell ... On 11/12/07, Alex Brelsfoard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run this test with a cleared cache, and with previous copies in cache. the results do not vary. have you set the no cache headers for the image download? [on the server side] also, in your

Re: [Boston.pm] Social Meeting in August

2007-08-14 Thread john saylor
hi On 8/14/07, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or would people rather do something on the weekend? i attend so infrequently, i do not expect my preference to carry much weight, but this sunday night [19 aug] would be good for me. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]

Re: [Boston.pm] Is there a way to search for referrers?

2007-02-01 Thread john saylor
hi On 1/31/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and you (or your colleague?) never mentioned modperl before which is a totally different animal. apache doesn't usually exit so it will never have the end of process cleanup. just another reason i think modperl is a crock. it isn't perl

Re: [Boston.pm] Tech Meeting Followup

2007-01-18 Thread john saylor
hi RM == Richard Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM There were approximately 4 slices left. Maybe 5? Two cheese, one RM pepper onions, one tomato, and possibly one other. On 1/18/07, Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need much better accuracy than that. this is a critical

Re: [Boston.pm] teaching kids Perl

2006-12-01 Thread john saylor
hi On 12/1/06, Kate Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... say you were going to teach a child (or several children) of about ten, reasonable technical aptitude, to program using Perl. How would you go about it? well, the main thing would be to connect the programming to another interest. let's

Re: [Boston.pm] other campus conference pages

2005-09-01 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.09.01 14:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: we could maybe do large talks in 34-101 (just off vassar st behind the angular glass entranceway) which holds 325 i think. well, how important is it to have all the talks in the same area? i think having talks at different locations [different

Re: [Boston.pm] we can meet at mit

2005-07-11 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.07.08 17:40 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: few mit people seem to be active in pm. they must all think perl is lisp's ugly but smarter step sister! :) no- they just can't get any corporate money using perl ... -- \js oblique strategy: accretion

Re: [Boston.pm] we can meet at mit

2005-07-11 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.07.08 17:57 -0400 ) Ricker, William: use Boston::Cambridge; that would undoubtedly create a disturbance in the force ... -- \js oblique strategy: do something boring ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org

Re: [Boston.pm] Any good mongers out there?

2005-05-24 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.05.24 15:07 -0400 ) Drew Taylor: Is perl on the way out in Boston? i hope not. there have been threads on the mod_perl list about advocacy. and how java is taking over a lot. the bean counters never liked open source anyway, it goes against their nature [sharing]. -- \js oblique

Re: [Boston.pm] (also) Perl

2005-03-01 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.02.28 21:07 -0500 ) James Linden Rose, III: However Mr. Shwartz's model of the problem does not reflect majority opinion with respect to the breadth of the issue, (especially as it seems to be peppered with idealism and anti-capitalism). whoa- idealism and anti-capitalism smells like

Re: [Boston.pm] Bottom Up

2005-03-01 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London: What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that did free (or low cost) online certification? what if you did that. What it requires is a community spirit, and a little bit of generousity from its members to grant it the possibility of being. i

Re: [Boston.pm] Bottom Up

2005-03-01 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London: What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that did free (or low cost) online certification? John Saylor said: what if you did that. ( 05.03.01 15:59 -0500 ) Greg London: brilliant. Rather than focus on the goal, shift focus on how

Re: [Boston.pm] (also) Perl

2005-02-28 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.02.25 17:13 -0500 ) Greg London: So, if Certification convinces Mike to allow perl, and Eve isn't an idiot, it's an overall win. and if elephants had wings, they'd be the biggest birds by far. -- \js oblique strategy: ask people to work against their better judgement

Re: [Boston.pm] short-listing languages for applications software development

2005-02-22 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.02.22 14:38 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: I must add that this is a corporate environment. i guess you should also add 'brain-dead' corporate environment [or maybe that's just implied]. How can I rebut this arguement in a better way? doesn't seem too logical and argument. so you can't use

Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?

2005-02-07 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.02.07 10:48 -0500 ) Greg London: For a one-time buyer, going to a website to purchase something, it seems like needless overhead to ask them to create an account, make up a password (and figure out a way to remember it), when they're only going to ever make one purchase. yes, but

Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?

2005-02-07 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 05.02.07 16:04 -0500 ) Greg London: I'll buy pizza for a perlmonger meeting if I can get a definite yes/no answer on these questions. could the site give him a tracking number / one-time password so he could check the status of his order and report a problem? yes Would it be

Re: [Boston.pm] [OT] selling a widget online. Password required?

2005-02-07 Thread John Saylor
Greg London: Would it be any less secure than having the user set up an account and their own password? John Saylor wrote: yes, more prone to spoofing since it's only one piece of info [trakcing number] instead of 2 [username/pw]. ( 05.02.07 17:08 -0500 ) Greg London

Re: [Boston.pm] Max hash key length

2004-12-29 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.12.29 13:13 -0800 ) Palit, Nilanjan: Now, regarding Tom Metro's original suggestion for using an MD5 Digest: I read that the original MD5 algorithm has known issues with collisions. i think it's more that there is a way to produce a collision while altering the file being hashed. this

Re: [Boston.pm] reading in a directory

2004-12-07 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.12.07 14:13 -0600 ) Alex Brelsfoard: But say I want to upload all of the pictures from a wedding or something. zip them up into one file. [pre-process] i don't think the browser file selection controls are anywhere near as flexible as local graphical file selection controls. i think

Re: [Boston.pm] OT - A SpamAssassin question

2004-11-04 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.11.03 21:29 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: Needless to say 99% is spam! I have some 28MB worth of mail sitting somewhere, waiting to be delivered. I want that 28MB mail to be filtered and forwarded to my cox.net address. so 28MB * 0.99 = 27.72MB of SPAM, 0.28MB of HAM let's say the average

Re: [Boston.pm] Wiki

2004-08-06 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.08.05 19:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman: at least we should have meeting info and directions, talk subjects, a who's who page of members, job stuff?, boston perl things (what??), etc. maybe some of those things go on the main web site- don't need to duplicate lists. wiki is better for putting

Re: [Boston.pm] possibly off-topic: html, metadata, and a perl script???

2004-08-06 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.08.06 11:11 -0400 ) Greg London: I usually use OpenOffice to create my html. hmm ... Do I need a perl script that takes my html and inserts the metadata into it? Or can I do it in OO? just use a text editor [vim, notepad, the emacs operating system, whatever] and cut and paste. I

Re: [Boston.pm] Wiki

2004-08-05 Thread John Saylor
hi i think setting up a wiki of somekind is a great idea. it can even be a link off of http://boston.pm.org/ if the people who own that site want to maintain some independence and control. ( 04.08.05 10:19 -0400 ) David: These two issues may indicate that a wiki which allows an admin group and

Re: [Boston.pm] CGI::Carp and mod_perl

2004-08-04 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.08.03 17:57 -0400 ) Ron Newman: die Death by chocolate\n; could be the newline at the end. also try 'warn'-ing instead of 'die'-ing. -- \js oblique strategy: use an unacceptable color ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Boston.pm] Re: Uploading a picture with perl

2004-08-03 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.08.02 19:32 -0400 ) Alex Brelsfoard: But I am a bit curious to know if there is a way to do this without using CGI.pm. sure, mod_perl [much faster, lighter]. the interface is a bit better than CGI.pm, but not a whole lot. i just think it's a tricky thing to be doing anyway [uploading

Re: [Boston.pm] Assignment to Convoluted Data Structure

2004-07-16 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.07.16 08:26 -0400 ) William Goedicke: And, pure and simple, I can't get the syntax right. i'd do this. my $hr = { 'NAME'=$results[0], 'ID'=$id, 'TYPE'=$results[1], 'TARGETFIELD'=$id+10 }; push ( @{ $VAR1-{TARGETTABLE}-{SOURCETABLE}

Re: [Boston.pm] Meeting topic?

2004-07-16 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.07.16 14:09 -0400 ) James Eshelman: POE--perl object environment. I'm thinking of using it and would love to hear case stories from any who have -- both pleasures and pitfalls. i used it to write an irc monitor once. it was pretty nice. i'm sure uri's got something to say, since i

Re: [Boston.pm] [Offtopic] Meeting space for J2ME SIG

2004-07-08 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.07.07 18:57 -0400 ) Arun Nagarajan: I know there were a lot of offers for meeting space posted previously for the Boston PM crew - I was wondering if any of that will still be available for a 20 person J2ME SIG? java programmers need help from perl programmers? oh right- happens all

Re: [Boston.pm] sprintf sign handling question?

2004-06-23 Thread John Saylor
hi not having seen the code, this is a guess. ( 04.06.22 22:54 -0400 ) Bob Mariotti: I have a perl program that extracts data from a report file. Some of the fields (columns) are monetary with a trailing sign (i.e: 1,234.56-). However, I am having problems with sign handling. Can anyone

Re: [Boston.pm] Tech Meeting Followup

2004-06-16 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.06.15 23:48 -0400 ) Chris Devers: * Time::Space::Continuum http://damian.conway.org/Seminars//TimeSpace.html space is the place ... -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Boston.pm] list viruses

2004-05-06 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.05.06 11:46 -0400 ) Philipp Hanes: I use MS Outlook 2000 (not much choice at the office). that's a big problem. outlook is the most massively broken piece of software released by microsoft [and *that's* saying something]. it's like complaining that your scooter won't move very fast in a

Re: [Boston.pm] Secure email

2004-02-23 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.02.16 14:08 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan: Has anyone created any application that uses secure email using GPG pr PGP? mutt I wonder if I can generate a certificate that the recipient can install for encrypting/decrypting mail from me. I was thinking of using OpenSSL to generate the

Re: [Boston.pm] perl document license?

2004-01-26 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.01.24 12:58 -0800 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been working on a perl training document I was planning on putting it on CPAN i'm not sure there's even a place for it there. maybe use.perl.org? do people use the perl license for their documentation too? people do all kinds of things

Re: [Boston.pm] joke CPAN modules

2004-01-26 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 04.01.24 16:47 -0800 ) steve: Hey, am I the only one to be burned by a CPAN module that turned out to be a joke? yes -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

Re: [Boston.pm] new to the group

2003-12-16 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.12.16 13:06 -0500 ) Sean Quinlan: Anyone interested in a pub meet over the holidays? i'll drink to that. -- \js don't panic ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

[Boston.pm] outlook bashing

2003-11-11 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.11.11 09:20 -0500 ) James Sullivan: Also i believe there's some sort of security in Outlook that prevents reading of files off your disks. no, no, no- the security in outlook allows other programs to send email to everyone in your address book whenever they want to. -- \js don't

Re: [Boston.pm] RSA public key authentication in Net::SSH::Perl

2003-11-03 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.10.31 17:54 -0500 ) Chris Braiotta: That makes sense, and was something I finally figured out, but didn't seem to help. i think you have more of a problem with ssh authorization and key management than with perl. crypto is not always easy [if it's going to be effective]. i think you

Re: [Boston.pm] OT - Apache upgrade, ApacheSSL and mod_perl on Linux (Redhat)

2003-10-23 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.10.23 13:38 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan: Looks like both ApacheSSL and mod_ssl work only with Apache 1.3 i don't think so: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_ssl.html -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Boston.pm] Postal address De-duping

2003-08-14 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.08.04 17:12 -0400 ) Joel Gwynn: we're looking for a fast, customizable de-duping solution. I was thinking there might be some perl stuff out there, really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while sleeping. -- \js

Re: [Boston.pm] Postal address De-duping

2003-08-06 Thread John Saylor
hi On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:07 AM, John Saylor wrote: really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while sleeping. ( 03.08.05 19:21 +0100 ) David Cantrell: No, it's quite a hard problem. i guess it depends on the way the problem is defined by the client

Re: [Boston.pm] emacs discussion

2003-07-10 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.07.09 22:20 -0400 ) Chris Devers: I wish I could think of better metaphors for this, because intuitively it seems clear to me that there are plenty of examples of things that are very complex and yet still not necessarily challenging. this seems too one dimentional- i think most

Re: [Boston.pm] emacs discussion

2003-07-09 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.07.08 21:48 -0400 ) William Goedicke: [X]emacs is nigh ultimately functioal and free. freedom can also be measured in many ways [memory footprint]. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Boston.pm] .Net platform and Perl - feedback please

2003-07-03 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.07.02 21:25 -0400 ) John Sequeira: If I had a choice, though, I would make life really simple and just write a COM control or Windows Script Component. Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big Brother! Down with Big

Re: [Boston.pm] Komodo vs. emacs

2003-07-03 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.07.03 08:18 -0400 ) Charles Reitzel: A programmer's editor is his or her hammer. while i have seen code written like that, i prefer to think of it as a pencil. i use vim pretty much all the time. -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Of spice and spawn (was Re: [Boston.pm] possible party june 28)

2003-06-04 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.06.03 09:39 -0400 ) Kevin Jackson-Mead: spice eq spouses yikes- i can only handle 1 ... -- \js ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

Re: [Boston.pm] Perl 6 has become too complex

2003-03-14 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.03.14 09:13 -0500 ) Tolkin, Steve: Please advise me as to how to proceed. i think you can email either damian or larry [psuedo-] directly. or post something on perlmonks.org. or you can start your own fork of the perl code- that's one of the benefits of open source. -- .--- ... [ x

Re: [Boston.pm] Re: Slightly off topic from Hartford PM Group

2003-02-27 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.02.27 08:03 -0500 ) Bob Mariotti: When the user select the data desired to be downloaded from the page our perl programs issue a content-type: directive. have you tried: application/octet-stream and using the content-disposition header? -- .--- ... [ x ]

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Linux experiment

2003-02-05 Thread John Saylor
hi ( 03.02.04 23:35 -0500 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Linux started to lock up at different stages about a month or so ago. anything in /var/log to explain the lock up? Short of calling Penguin Computing and buying a new system, does anyone have any cheaper ideas? freeBSD? -- .--- ... [no

Re: [Boston.pm] getting values out of symbol tables

2003-01-17 Thread John Saylor
Hi ( 03.01.17 13:56 -0500 ) Dan Sugalski: Typeglobs are all that's in symbol tables. You need to look in the globs if you want to get values. But how do I do this? Do I open () them? Do I dereference them? I've been digging through the camel book [and writing test scripts] without success.

Re: [Boston.pm] question puzzle

2002-10-11 Thread John Saylor
Hi ( 02.10.10 17:09 -0400 ) Chris Devers: Is it cheating to brute force the puzzle with a computer? :) That's a well known problem solving strategy. Ask RSA ... -- .--- ... ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Boston.pm] question puzzle

2002-10-11 Thread John Saylor
Hi ( 02.10.10 17:16 -0400 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone needs to write a code analysis tool to measure the complexity and general unreadability of a piece of perl code. Of course, these are 2 independent metrics. Then, when these kinds of puzzles come up, people can compete to have the