On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:00:17PM -0500, Grant M. wrote:
My biggest objection to PHP is that most developers write pages with
the code entirely or mostly within the page, leading to an inherent
inability to modify the layout without having at least a cursory
understanding of the language.
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:00:17PM -0500, Grant M. wrote:
My biggest objection to PHP is that most developers write pages with
the code entirely or mostly within the page, leading to an inherent
inability to modify the layout without having
I too believe in separation of code segments as much as possible. Also
in the ability to include separately created logic, etc.
This thread was discussing the merits of perl vs PHP and I believe the
PHP argument was that everything is in one place. While nice, it is
difficult to manage with
One of the places for whom I work uses Perl for all of its development
and, when I first joined about 8 months ago, had all the HTML for
dynamic pages embedded in the CGI code. My supervisor had tried using
Mason before and was unsatisfied with it so I convinced him to give the
module
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:07, Uri Guttman wrote:
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB I've been trying to be good, and seperate content from presentation.
DB But since starting using Mason, I find that's much harder to do? Yes
in the templating world, there are two camps, code
AS == Aaron Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AS On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:07, Uri Guttman wrote:
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB I've been trying to be good, and seperate content from presentation.
DB But since starting using Mason, I find that's much harder to do? Yes
Grant M. wrote:
It also ensures that the 'html monkey' does not make more work for the
'code monkey', which is my biggest complaint. I can't tell you how many
designers I've seen wait until AFTER they've totally messed up some page
before they ask about what that code was that they
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 16:08, Uri Guttman wrote:
templating is not rocket science. that is why there
are so many template modules on cpan. they are trivial to do basic
versions. whether they mature into large systems like tt2 is another
matter.
True, but the advantage of having a baseline way
AS == Aaron Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
versions. whether they mature into large systems like tt2 is another
matter.
AS True, but the advantage of having a baseline way of templating (and this
AS is the BIG advantage of PHP) is that you can then abstract away from
AS that and
