On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Dan Boger wrote:
I've been trying to be good, and seperate content from presentation.
But since starting using Mason, I find that's much harder to do?
That's because Mason makes the same mistake PHP does:
it mixes your program logic in with your layout code.
It
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:00:17PM -0500, Grant M. wrote:
My biggest objection to PHP is that most developers write pages with
the code entirely or mostly within the page, leading to an inherent
inability to modify the layout without having at least a cursory
understanding of the language.
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:00:17PM -0500, Grant M. wrote:
My biggest objection to PHP is that most developers write pages with
the code entirely or mostly within the page, leading to an inherent
inability to modify the layout without having
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:07, Uri Guttman wrote:
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB I've been trying to be good, and seperate content from presentation.
DB But since starting using Mason, I find that's much harder to do? Yes
in the templating world, there are two camps, code
AS == Aaron Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AS On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:07, Uri Guttman wrote:
DB == Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB I've been trying to be good, and seperate content from presentation.
DB But since starting using Mason, I find that's much harder to do? Yes
Grant M. wrote:
It also ensures that the 'html monkey' does not make more work for the
'code monkey', which is my biggest complaint. I can't tell you how many
designers I've seen wait until AFTER they've totally messed up some page
before they ask about what that code was that they
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 16:08, Uri Guttman wrote:
templating is not rocket science. that is why there
are so many template modules on cpan. they are trivial to do basic
versions. whether they mature into large systems like tt2 is another
matter.
True, but the advantage of having a baseline way
AS == Aaron Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
versions. whether they mature into large systems like tt2 is another
matter.
AS True, but the advantage of having a baseline way of templating (and this
AS is the BIG advantage of PHP) is that you can then abstract away from
AS that and
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:37:29 -0500, William Goedicke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Tom -
I've thought a lot about why perl hasn't gained respect in the
deployment/hiring marketplace.
Tom == Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom This reminded me of something I've wondered about
William Goedicke wrote:
Perl's strength, in my mind, is that it has enormous breadth.
What I like is that it has always been a general-purpose programming
language like C and Java, but unlike those two it has the CPAN and has a
large and friendly community around it who help me when I'm having
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 10:33, Sean Quinlan wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 21:58, Tom Metro wrote:
This reminded me of something I've wondered about for a long time. Why
did PHP become as successful and popular as it is, even though it mostly
offers a subset of what Perl can do. (I'm aware of
My biggest objection to PHP is that most developers write pages with the
code entirely or mostly within the page, leading to an inherent
inability to modify the layout without having at least a cursory
understanding of the language. This means that everytime a modification
is made to the
Dear Tom -
I've thought a lot about why perl hasn't gained respect in the
deployment/hiring marketplace.
Tom == Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom This reminded me of something I've wondered about for a long
Tom time. Why did PHP become as successful and popular as it is,
Ronald J Kimball wrote:
Boston.pm will have a tech meeting Tuesday, January 25...
...post to the discussion list if you'd like to suggest a topic.
I'd like to propose two possible meeting ideas, which I'll post
separately so their merits can be hashed out in separate threads.
Back in December Dan
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