Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-23 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: I'm continually amazed at our ability to talk past each other on this issue. Of course Bill Clinton would have fallen victim to using much of the same intelligence. That's because neither Administration was treating intelligence as a black box.They weren't saying I wonder if

Re: Gay marriage update

2004-05-23 Thread The Fool
-- From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll see what happens when the Massachusetts Voters approve their constitutional amendment in two years in order to tell those tyrants on the MA Supreme Court exactly what the MA Constitution says. Ah, yes tyranny. The Catholic church has

1Cav and CW

2004-05-23 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned http://www.stripesonline.com/article.asp?section=104article=22295 The leakage may be from smoke rounds ... From what I have heard, chemical warheads leak. The Germans, US, and Soviets all found this out. Presumably, the

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Keith Henson
At 03:14 PM 21/05/04 -0700, you wrote: While I was in the Bruderhof neighborhood... http://www.bruderhof.com/articles/Fight-or-Flight.htm There /is/ an alternative to the kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out mentality. Two things: cathars god will know his own in Google brings up almost 400 web

Re: Iridium Flares

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Arnett
Robert Seeberger wrote: What Allen fortuitously saw was an Iridium flare, caused by one in a new fleet of satellites that have been put into Earth orbit over the past several years; satellites that can briefly appear to flare to incredible brilliance. I've seen them, though they're so quick that

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 23 May 2004 09:18:14 -0400, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:14 PM 21/05/04 -0700, you wrote: While I was in the Bruderhof neighborhood... http://www.bruderhof.com/articles/Fight-or-Flight.htm http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar Second, Bruderhof abuse in

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:36 PM 5/23/04, Gary Denton wrote: Gary Who has his own religious conflict to concern him Internal or external? Wanna share? Or just vent? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
Texas is attempting to declare Unitarian Universalists not a religion. This seems insane considering the over 200 year history but things have been insane for a bit now. I don't think it will get anywhere but with the Supreme Court the way it is... Gary On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:01:27 -0500,

General Zinni

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
General Zinni on 60 minutes tonight. Accusing top Pentagon officials of dereliction of duty, retired Marine General Anthony Zinni says staying the course in Iraq isn't a reasonable option. The course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think it's time to change course a little bit or at least hold

Re: General Zinni

2004-05-23 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
It is on right now. At 05:55 PM 5/23/04, Gary Denton wrote: General Zinni on 60 minutes tonight. Accusing top Pentagon officials of dereliction of duty, retired Marine General Anthony Zinni says staying the course in Iraq isn't a reasonable option. The course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think

Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Uhhh. under exactly what basis is tax-exempt status a, quote, right? Second, It is a right to have all religions treated equally and not make some classified as not a religion. Third, I was using

Re: America the Theocracy

2004-05-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just catching up on thousands of Brin-L messages that I was too busy to read at the time. I won't comment on most of them, but this one caught my attention. Debbi said: Hasn't it been established by careful, rational debate on Brin-L that

Re: 'Expect less, be happier...?'

2004-05-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GaryD:] Perhaps this subscription to the gourami fish theory of mating relates to your lowered expectations? snort of amusement Exactly the opposite -- I want an equal! Don't we all... Just out of

RedneckKlan Bigotry in their own words

2004-05-23 Thread The Fool
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_05_16_atrios_archive.html#10852377971588 7070 Republican Bigots Gotta love'em. Briefing Room gives us an ad transcript from the Republican primary in NC-5. HOST: This episode of Congressional Jeopardy is paid for by Vernon Robinson for Congress . Today's topic

Re: Gay marriage update

2004-05-23 Thread JDG
At 01:57 AM 5/23/2004 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote: So you wouldn't care about losing all the legal rights and responsibilities that come with marriage, if they were denied to you? I would be mildly annoyed, for sure.But I would find ways to make due. My central point, however, is that this

Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-23 Thread JDG
At 04:34 PM 5/23/2004 -0700 Deborah Harrell wrote: It is my understanding that part of the tax-exempt status of religions is tied to the avoidance of direct political action. Is that at all correct? If so, there is a bit of a tempest brewing locally. Bishop Sheridan has stated that not only

'Only nuclear power can now halt global warming'

2004-05-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=524313 Leading environmentalist urges radical rethink on climate change Global warming is now advancing so swiftly that only a massive expansion of nuclear power as the world's main energy source can prevent it overwhelming

Pew Survey Finds Moderates, Liberals Dominate News Outlets

2004-05-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000517184 Those convinced that liberals make up a disproportionate share of newsroom workers have long relied on Pew Research Center surveys to confirm this view, and they will not be disappointed by the results of

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion At 04:34 PM 5/23/2004 -0700 Deborah Harrell wrote: It is my understanding that part of the

Bruderhof, was Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread David Hobby
Gary Denton wrote: ... Second, Bruderhof abuse in Google lists almost 3000 pages. Keith Henson ... Try http://www.perefound.org/jr_cn.html or Google Bruderhof critics There are a variety of news sources both critical and supportive of the Bruderhof. The main Bruderhof in