Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread G. D. Akin
Robert Seeberger wrote: Perdido Street Station is a Fantasy dressed up in Science Fiction Drag. - PSS was a very, very hard book to read. I wrote a review that said something to the effect that I hadn't had to wade

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread G. D. Akin
David Hobby wrote: I honestly don't know. I've heard about it, and have no desire to read it. It could be that I'm put off by the classical allusions, present even in the titles. Heavy-handed references to THE CLASSICS usually signal a pompous and self-important author. Not that I'm

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread G. D. Akin
Gautam Mukunda wrote: I hate to do a me too - but, me too. The whole Hyperion series taken together ranks among the finest works of science fiction I have ever read - offhand, I can't think of _anything_ I would put ahead of it, and only a handful of other books that are even close.

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Richard Baker
George said: Concur, great series. Simmons can write. The first two are excellent, even if parts of _The Fall of Hyperion_ are a mess and the ending isn't as clean as it should be. I was much less impressed by the two Endymion books though. Rich ___

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:06:48 +0100, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://books.scattersoft.com So this is the SF top ten... Hyperion, Dan Simmons 1 Foundation, Isaac Asimov =2 Foundation and Empire, Isaac Asimov =2 Second Foundation, Isaac Asimov

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Jun 2004, at 11:42 am, Gary Denton wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:06:48 +0100, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://books.scattersoft.com So this is the SF top ten... Hmmm, am I registered for this as well? Not unless it's under a very different name and email address. Just go to

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Richard Baker
William said: Not unless it's under a very different name and email address. Just go to http://books.scattersoft.com , click the 'registration' link and follow the instructions. When I try this it says Something or other mysteriously failed. Try again later. int(999).

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: Thanks to Erik raving about how good Hyperion is a few months ago, I finally read it after looking at the cover and *not* buying it for 20 years or so. Gawrsh its great. I ended up reading all four books one after the other and will read them again at some

C. S. Lewis space-travel books [was: brin-l-books stats]

2004-06-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: Mentioning? Out of the Silent Planet was set on Mars, Peralandra on Venus. Most of the science was ridiculous by todays standards but the creation of alien species to tell a story, however allegorical, is really the reason these books are classified as s.f. There is

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 13:39:29 +0100, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, am I registered for this as well? Not unless it's under a very different name and email address. Just go to http://books.scattersoft.com , click the 'registration' link and follow the instructions.

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Richard Baker
Gary said: Everytime I fill it out it repeats the screen. It seems to do that with IE6 here, but Mozilla is fine. Rich ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

extralegal vrs legal

2004-06-02 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On his Web log, Mark Kleiman wrote about a program for ordinary Peruvians to replace `extralegal' property rights with legal property rights. Unfortunately, his initial take was wrong: http://WWW.markarkleiman.com/archives/_/2004/05/what_ive_learned_so_far_at_the_law_society_meetings.php

Propane, Turbines, and Energy Efficiency

2004-06-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002148.html#002148 Propane Drives Turbine To Harness Waste Heat, Reduce Pollution ... A new patent pending technology is available which replaces the steam turbine system with a Cascading Closed Loop Cycle (CCLC) system producing an increase in MW output of

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Jun 2004, at 3:14 pm, Richard Baker wrote: Gary said: Everytime I fill it out it repeats the screen. It seems to do that with IE6 here, but Mozilla is fine. Cookies. You must accept them. Where browsers have several different levels from 'reject all' to 'accept all' move it at least a notch

Condoms contain carcinogen

2004-06-02 Thread Julia Thompson
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=571ncid=751e=1u=/nm/20040528/hl_nm/health_germany_condoms_dc or http://tinyurl.com/24zm5 Study Says Condoms Contain Cancer-Causing Substance Fri May 28,12:09 PM ET BERLIN (Reuters) - Most condoms contain a cancer-causing chemical and their

Re: Condoms contain carcinogen

2004-06-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/2/2004 8:49:52 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Chemical and Veterinary Investigation Institute in Stuttgart, Germany, said it found the carcinogen N-Nitrosamine present in 29 of 32 types of condoms it tested in simulated conditions. Simulated

Re: Condoms contain carcinogen

2004-06-02 Thread Damon Agretto
All testing employees were treated to dinner and a movie first? Well I heard testing results were skewed as they were offered a cigarrette to smoke afterwards... Damon :P = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem,

SpaceShipOne launches 21 June

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3770919.stm Scaled Composites, the company behind the first private manned spacecraft, will launch it into space on 21 June carrying an as yet unnamed astronaut. SpaceShipOne is built by aerospace pioneer Burt Rutan who hopes to win the Ansari X-prize of

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 31 May 2004, at 11:06 pm, William T Goodall wrote: Just to make things even more exciting I have calculated this table using a simple trimmed mean where a single 'best' and a single 'worst' rating are excluded and the remainder averaged. Since I'm throwing away two scores for each book each

Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread iaamoac
In the sort of move that only The Fool could love, the ACLU has recently succeeded in purging references to the role of the Spanish Missions ins settling California in the Seal of the City of Los Angeles. After all, we all know that the City of Los Angeles was a virtual theocracy under the

Weekly Chat Reminder

2004-06-02 Thread Steve Sloan II
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started a little over an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my

Re: Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Jun 2004, at 9:04 pm, iaamoac wrote: In the sort of move that only The Fool could love, the ACLU has recently succeeded in purging references to the role of the Spanish Missions ins settling California in the Seal of the City of Los Angeles. After all, we all know that the City of Los Angeles

Re: Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread Damon Agretto
Can someone post the whole article for those of us that don't want to start an account? Or do we have a Brin-L account thre too? Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: Ah, what IS science fiction? I admit that the lines blur, so it may be best to just appeal to authority. My own definition is that Science Fiction books show slices of axiomatically derived alternate realities. The author should start with a small number of non-standard

Re: Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread Steve Sloan II
Damon Agretto wrote: Can someone post the whole article for those of us that don't want to start an account? Or do we have a Brin-L account thre too? I went to bugmenot.com, and found this account: user name: utesfan password: sierra

Enron Traders Caught On Tape

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
Page contains a link for a video of Enron employees behaving as described: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml When a forest fire shut down a major transmission line into California, cutting power supplies and raising prices, Enron energy traders celebrated,

Army Issues Order to Stop U.S. Soldiers from Leaving

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/294628|top|06-02-2004::13:07|reuters.html The U.S. Army has issued orders preventing thousands of soldiers designated to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan from leaving the military even when their volunteer service commitment ends, officials said on Wednesday. The

Re: Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread Dave Land
And yet, the image of the goddess Pomona was permitted to remain. This is an outrage. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Atheists Purge History

2004-06-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Jun 2004, at 12:27 am, Dave Land wrote: And yet, the image of the goddess Pomona was permitted to remain. This is an outrage. If there were any Pomana worshippers in the area in question, they might well be objecting first... I don't think expired religions count in this question. They

RE: Scouted: Sugar and ADHD?

2004-06-02 Thread Gary Nunn
This article pooh-poohs the idea of food affecting the behavior of children with ADHD. Major snippage... I don't have any experience with ADHD children, but I have plenty with hot* horses, and I guarantee you that the type of grain supplement they receive _does_ My daughter has moderate

Hyperiod Re: brin-l-books stats

2004-06-02 Thread JDG
At 02:17 AM 6/2/2004 -0700 Richard Baker wrote: George said: Concur, great series. Simmons can write. The first two are excellent, even if parts of _The Fall of Hyperion_ are a mess and the ending isn't as clean as it should be. I was much less impressed by the two Endymion books though. I've