ADMIN: The server knew I was away

2004-08-04 Thread Nick Arnett
I took a four-day vacation... and our server was apparently watching, for after working fine for weeks, it went south. Seems to be happy again. There was a power failure here (Silicon Valley Power apparently also was watching), so perhaps that was the problem. Sorry for the long downtime.

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (and ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... and I've already agreed that extremists of all religious flavors are misogynists (or treat women as srcond-class). Well, I know what *second-class* means, but I'm not sure what a srcond is! Scrond-class: Red neck

Re: Back to school again

2004-08-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/3/2004 4:59:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Arthur C. Clarke, Childhood's End ? The only classic to be listed among the moderns? Who goofed? Vilyehm ___

Re: Hellllloooooooooo.....

2004-08-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/3/2004 5:00:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we up or down?? It's verrry quiet here... Of course it's very quiet. I'm humming Rabbis. ___

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Actual but non-moral consequences also occur in the 'sins of the fathers (and mothers)' realm: congenital syphilis and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome come to my mind. Good point. I wonder whether Fetal

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Actual but non-moral consequences also occur in the 'sins of the fathers (and mothers)' realm: congenital syphilis and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome come to my mind. Good point. I wonder whether Fetal

Life on Mars Likely, Scientist Claims

2004-08-04 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_microorganisms_040803.html Those twin robots hard at work on Mars have transmitted teasing views that reinforce the prospect that microbial life may exist on the red planet. Results from NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity rovers are being looked over by a

Re: Back to school again

2004-08-04 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote: Well, I've signed up for a DE course with The University of Maryland, European Division. The course is ENGL476, Modern Fantasy and Science Fiction. The course runs from August 23rd to Dec 18th. The works to be covered are: 1. Arthur C. Clarke, Childhood's End 2.

A Brief History of US Political Parties

2004-08-04 Thread Steve Sloan
Here's a link that appeared on LarryNiven-L, and I thought it was pretty interesting. It gives a little history of how US political parties have gained and lost stature, split up, formed different coalitions, took each other's names, etc. Origin of the Species Up from the ooze, into the mud -- a

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Actual but non-moral consequences also occur in the 'sins of the fathers (and mothers)' realm: congenital syphilis and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome come to my mind. Good point. I wonder whether Fetal

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Robert J. Chassell wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Actual but non-moral consequences also occur in the 'sins of the fathers (and mothers)' realm: congenital syphilis and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome come to my mind. ... Good point. I wonder whether Fetal Alcohol Syndrome

Re: Back to school again

2004-08-04 Thread Damon Agretto
I took a similar class at Penn State as an undergrad to fulfill one of my GenEd requirements, though my class was SF ONLY. Very interesting, though I found I liked perhaps half the books (some I thought were prety aweful, like Burrough's _The Ticket that Exploded_ or somesuch, and I realized that

Re: Back to school again

2004-08-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: As I said about my Artificial Intelligences in Literature course, any class where Neuromancer is required reading has to be good. :) Uh? A course about Artificial Intelligences in Literature without any Asimov robot book nor any Heinlein? This can't be serious :-/

Back to school . . . again

2004-08-04 Thread G. D. Akin
Well, I've signed up for a DE course with The University of Maryland, European Division. The course is ENGL476, Modern Fantasy and Science Fiction. The course runs from August 23rd to Dec 18th. The works to be covered are: 1. Arthur C. Clarke, Childhood's End 2. Connie Willis and Sheila

Re: Hellllloooooooooo.....

2004-08-04 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
ech echo echoo Gary Nunn wrote: Are we up or down?? It's verrry quiet here... It's becoming rather normal that the list is down around, on or after the week-end. Unfortunatly it's also the most effective way to kill conversation imo. I know *I'm* not inclined to send

Re: Back to school again

2004-08-04 Thread Bryon Daly
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:34:02 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2004 4:59:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Arthur C. Clarke, Childhood's End ? The only classic to be listed among the moderns? Who goofed? Well, the

Weekly Chat Reminder

2004-08-04 Thread William T Goodall
As Steve said, The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of

Harpers Index Aug 04

2004-08-04 Thread Gary Denton
Weeks the Patriot Act allowed the government this year to delay the ACLU's announcement of a suit over the Act itself : 3 [ACLU (N.Y.C.) ] ~odd, when you copy/paste it adds the source Seconds it took a Maryland consultant last winter to pick a Diebold voting machine's lock and remove its memory

Re: Karmic slappage (was: Phone home?)

2004-08-04 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, snip (This brings up another question: to what extent is the claim that rich and powerful Romans liked wine with lead

Re: A Brief History of US Political Parties

2004-08-04 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 21:47:51 -0500, Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link that appeared on LarryNiven-L, and I thought it was pretty interesting. It gives a little history of how US political parties have gained and lost stature, split up, formed different coalitions, took each

Vote Fraud

2004-08-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/27/opinion/27krug.html?ex=1248667200en=3 9daafa740cce0cdei=5090partner=rssuserland Fear of Fraud By PAUL KRUGMAN Published: July 27, 2004 It's election night, and early returns suggest trouble for the incumbent. Then, mysteriously, the vote count stops and

Islam-O-Fascist fires Popist for eating BLT

2004-08-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.local6.com/money/3614199/detail.html A Central Florida woman was fired from her job after eating unclean meat and violating a reported company policy that pork and pork products are not permissible on company premises, according to Local 6 News. -- Religious bondage shackles and

The Vatican Officially equates Women's Equality with Homosexuality

2004-08-04 Thread The Fool
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040731_701.html The drive for equality, the Vatican said, makes homosexuality and heterosexuality virtually equivalent, in a new model of polymorphous sexuality. -- Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble