Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Under what circumstances is prostitution, as outliked below, different from any other profession, like being a tax collector, an engineer, a pediatrician or a policeman? Erik Reuter wrote: Contention #1: Under certain circumstances (legality, reasonable regulation, etc.) prostitution can be a

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
John Horn wrote: My argument was that everytime I walk down the street holding hands with my wife or kissing her in public, *I* am broadcasting my sexuality to the world. I never saw any (hetero- or homo-) couple in the USA showing affection in public, even by holding hands - not to mention

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:58:15PM -0800, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 29, 2004, at 7:10 PM, Erik Reuter wrote: If you define religious behavior as a problem in thought processes, then observe problems in the thought-processes of religious people, you only prove that you have problems in your

Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 04:41:18PM +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I want to raise my daughter's science score in a test, and this may prove useful The whole idea of a poorly designed science question and a barometer reminded me of a story, but it took me a while to find it. Here it is: ***

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Lewis
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:15:44 -0600, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realise I have been terse to the point of rudeness in my recent posts to you. This was because it seemed to me that you were dragging child abuse into a conversation about adult rights. I accept that this is not what you

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Lewis
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:42:48 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contention #1: Under certain circumstances (legality, reasonable regulation, etc.) prostitution can be a healthy and worthwhile job for a non-neglible fraction of people who choose to do it Contention #2: There are a

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Reuter
Here are some questions: 1) Do you have a Bachelor's or post-graduate degree in a scientific field? 2) In recorded history, have any physical phenomena ever occurred that are completely impossible to ever explain scientifically? 3) Can a man and a woman have a healthy and fulfilling sexual

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Under what circumstances is prostitution, as outliked below, different from any other profession, like being a tax collector, an engineer, a pediatrician or a policeman? Erik Reuter wrote: Contention #1: Under certain circumstances

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:34:24PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Oh, as if you aren't going to get your children to the age where they CAN read Pullman without having already let them know at least some of the basics of your religious beliefs! And, gee, maybe you can just monitor what they're

RE: Atlantis, SG-1 Renewed

2004-11-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atlantis, SG-1 Renewed Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:45:35 -0500 Atlantis, SG-1 Renewed Excellent! I'm a fan. -Travis

RE: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Horn, John
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro I never saw any (hetero- or homo-) couple in the USA showing affection in public, even by holding hands - not to mention kissing. You mean Anita and I are the only ones? Sheesh, I knew those people were staring at us for a reason. I just thought it was because we

Trailer for RoTK extended edition

2004-11-30 Thread William T Goodall
http://tinyurl.com/48jad -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ A computer without Windows is like a cake without mustard. - anonymous ___

Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Land
Erik, The whole idea of a poorly designed science question and a barometer reminded me of a story, but it took me a while to find it. Here it is: very funny story clipped You and I may find plenty to disagree about on the subject of religion, but we very clearly have a similar sense of humor.

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 28, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Ritu wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: But when you work at any job at all you are doing exactly the same thing. You're selling your body for money. Even if your work is strictly intellectual, since there is no way to separate mind from body, you are *always* trading

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 29, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: What you probably don't know, because you don't live there (I used to until earlier this year) is that in north/central Wisconsin the Hmong community is facing a lot of problems, not the lest of

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
This is the last I'm going to post with you on this subject, Dan; we're beginning to go in circles and it's pretty clear you're not going to concede that even *one* of my points makes any sense. Whether this is out of stubbornness or a genuine inability to grasp the validity of others'

Re: Trailer for RoTK extended edition

2004-11-30 Thread kerri miller
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/48jad Hmmm... what will Kerri do over xmas vacation? - Pirates! - World of Warcraft - LotR Extended Edition Marathon __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best

RE: Won what? (was Re: So it begins....)

2004-11-30 Thread Horn, John
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next time, maybe the democrats should be encouraging democracy in the third world instead of whining about how bad Bush is for America. It worked for Bush. What they should really be complaining about is how bad of a republican Bush is! Great post! I agree

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: Re: So it begins Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time This is the last I'm going to post with you on this subject, Dan; we're

Re: Won what? (was Re: So it begins....)

2004-11-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Won what? (was Re: So it begins) Also, it sounds remarkably like what Dr. Brin has been preaching in his postings on his website

The Greatest Canadian

2004-11-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/ In November 2004, Canadians voted Tommy Douglas the Greatest Canadian of all time following a nationwide contest. Over 1.2 million votes were cast in a frenzy of voting that took place over six weeks as each of 10 advocates made their case for the Top 10 nominees in

Re: The Greatest Canadian

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 30, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote: http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/ In November 2004, Canadians voted Tommy Douglas the Greatest Canadian of all time following a nationwide contest. Would you think less of a neighbor to the south for his not knowing who the heck Tommy Douglas was

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 30 Nov 2004, at 7:28 pm, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, as an exercise, I suggest you take this assessment and answer it truthfully. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/etc/quiz.html I did, and got. 16 -

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:34 PM Subject: Re: So it begins Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time Or maybe that repression theory is broken... It has recently been

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Richard Baker
Dan said: It has recently been replaced by the recession theory: men born during ecconomic downturns are more likely to be gay when they are adults. I was reading yesterday about how in mice and deer (and presumably other animals), the birth weights of male and female offspring change to

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:08 PM Subject: Re: So it begins Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time Dan said: It has recently been replaced by the recession theory: men

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 11/30/04 4:34 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/etc/quiz.html I did, and got. 16 - Your score rates you as high-grade non-homophobic. I did too! 10   -   Your score rates you as high-grade non-homophobic. I

RE: Won what? (was Re: So it begins....)

2004-11-30 Thread ChadCooper
-Original Message- From: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:16 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Won what? (was Re: So it begins) Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next time, maybe the democrats should be encouraging democracy in the

RE: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread ChadCooper
-Original Message- From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:12 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute Dave Land wrote: What's really sad is that my wife gets this here in California. Does... she...

Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure

2004-11-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure Erik, The whole idea of a poorly designed science question and a barometer reminded me of a story,

Mario Guitar

2004-11-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=marioguitar.wmv This is a neat little clip that takes me back to the warp zone... And for all the metal-heads out there - last night, while listening to the tune Seventh Sign by Yngwie Malmsteen, I couldn't rid my mind of the image of Yngwie playing this

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2004, at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Land wrote: What's really sad is that my wife gets this here in California. Does... she... speak... English??? DO YU SPEAK EEN-GLIS (really loud voice) hehehee... You

Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erik, The whole idea of a poorly designed science question and a barometer reminded me of a story, but it took me a while to find it. Here it is: very funny story clipped You and I may find plenty to disagree

Re: The Greatest Canadian

2004-11-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Greatest Canadian Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:00:08 -0700 On Nov 30, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote: http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/ In November

Re: Ancient Mayan Canals?

2004-11-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ancient Mayan Canals? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:20:24 -0800 Travis, I'm lost in the memories of the place. Thanks, Travis! Hey, that's what I'm here for!

Re: Irregulars Question: Pressure

2004-11-30 Thread Erik Reuter
By the way, I have no idea whether the story is apocryphal (and neither does snopes, but snopes says it was likely first told by Dr. Alexandra Calandra around 1958-1961) -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 30, 2004, at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Land wrote: What's really sad is that my wife gets this here in California. Does... she... speak... English??? DO YU SPEAK EEN-GLIS (really

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Amanda Marlowe
Erik Reuter wrote: Another thing that amused me was that despite all the talk about Pullman killing God, it seemed to me that the entity in the story most similar to God (i.e., sharing many of the properties attributed to God, albeit one exception being that it can be seen) is Dust itself. One

Re: Ancient Mayan Canals?

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, on a serious note - do you do much travelling? Not really. This was quite a while ago, before our first son was born, and it was quite outside our normal range of travel. For our 5th wedding anniversary,

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 30, 2004, at 4:22 PM, Dave Land wrote: Peggy was too annoyed at first to be funny, but later said that she wished she'd had the presence of mind to answer -- in her unaccented English -- that *she* spoke English, but that I didn't, because I was just a little something she'd picked up in

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2004, at 5:35 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 30, 2004, at 4:22 PM, Dave Land wrote: Peggy was too annoyed at first to be funny, but later said that she wished she'd had the presence of mind to answer -- in her unaccented English -- that *she* spoke English, but that I didn't, because

Re: Itunes

2004-11-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
kerri wrote: --- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively? I do I do! First, are you using this on mac or winders? Winders. 1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is essentially random, I've noticed that over a shorter period

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Bryon Daly
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:36:18 -0500, Matthew and Julie Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/30/04 4:34 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/etc/quiz.html I did, and got. 16 - Your score rates you as high-grade