Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Regarding opportunity costs, JDG said ... Economic Theory suggests that that is not proper foundation for cost-benefit-analysis. According to generally accepted economics, a government project should simply be considered based on whether or not its benefits exceed its costs. ...

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Regarding opportunity costs, nowadays, the question in the US should not be whether school lunches use enable the US government to help the military, or subsidize small farmers, or subsidize large agribusinesses. It should be whether that same money would be better spent by hiring the farmers to

Re: Christian Justification for War (was Re: The OtherChristianity, was Re: Babble theory, and comments)

2005-04-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
JDG wrote ... let's consider a reasonable definition of the US's friends as being those countries with which the US has a formal Alliance ... Of the 32 or so of these ... To which I responded That fails to provide much legitimacy. It is the same argument as

Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)

2005-04-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Also, Hampden-Turner made the point that the most likely people to make such a shift in the US culture of the time were people whose background was one or other form of Christian puritanism. That is because people in other US cultures tended to be more forgiving. Of

Re: Christian Justification for War (was Re: TheOtherChristianity, was Re: Babble theory, and comments)

2005-04-15 Thread JDG
At 09:06 PM 4/14/2005 -0400, Bob Chassell wrote: Counting countries does not work, unless that count includes big, rich countries with a culture not too different from most Americans. So, why are you including France then? ;-) ___

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread JDG
At 08:41 PM 4/14/2005 -0400, you wrote: Regarding opportunity costs, JDG said ... Economic Theory suggests that that is not proper foundation for cost-benefit-analysis. According to generally accepted economics, a government project should simply be considered based on whether or

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-15 Thread JDG
At 02:08 PM 4/14/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote: Nick: I really don't mean to inflame things by asking, but would you apply cost- benefit analysis to abortion? Is war really so different? JDG: No, as cost-benefit-analysis can never be used to justify an intrinsicly evil action. For

Re: Opinion Disclaimers (was Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments))

2005-04-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:49 PM Thursday 4/14/2005, John DeBudge wrote: Not having been a reader of this list for long though (and having only started contributing in the last couple of days) Welcome! I could very well be missing some old arguments or personality conflicts. None that you (or any long-time members,

Re: Opinion Disclaimers (was Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments))

2005-04-15 Thread Erik Reuter
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Welcome! Ronn's our welcome wagon for gmail trolls. Good job, Ronn. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Erik Reuter
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: * Robert Seeberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is a Just Lunch doctrine. At least where I work there is. Just lunch..no nooner..just lunch. Better to just skip just lunch and go straight to the chocolate cake

Re: Opinion Disclaimers (was Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments))

2005-04-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:04 AM Friday 4/15/2005, Erik Reuter wrote: * Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Welcome! Ronn's our welcome wagon for gmail trolls. Good job, Ronn. Thank you! -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Intrinsic Evil Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:37:35 -0400, JDG wrote Thus, even if a given act is not intrinsically evil, it is only morally justified if the intent and totality of circumstances are good as well. I think I understand the position now. It is acting with good intentions, doing things that have

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-15 Thread Max Battcher
JDG wrote: Let's connect the dots: -human life begins at conception This is scientifically debateable. My favorite passage on the scientific thoughts about when human life actually begins is from Carl Sagan. I don't have the book on hand or I would quote it. You can debate that the early

Desktop Search Question

2005-04-15 Thread Kanandarqu
Several people that I work with would like to begin sharing resources such as presentations, website resource info etc. We are geographically dispersed and tossed around the idea of adding a library to our intranet, but the organizational aspect is something we dread as this thing gets

SSN ZIP Data (was: Re: 24? **correction**)

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And sometimes it's not a number, it's a text string. Some programmers don't seem to realize this. At least, some programmers writing code for programs at the university I attended didn't at some point. It's annoying to have the grade report arrive

Re: SSN ZIP Data (was: Re: 24? **correction**)

2005-04-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:31 PM Friday 4/15/2005, Matt Grimaldi wrote: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And sometimes it's not a number, it's a text string. Some programmers don't seem to realize this. At least, some programmers writing code for programs at the university I attended didn't at some

Faith, Hope, and Decision Making

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Peaceful change I can go back through the posts, but I see repeated claims that we can find a choice that involves far less

Re: Faith, Hope, and Decision Making

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Faith, Hope, and Decision Making - Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: * Robert Seeberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is a Just Lunch doctrine. At least where I work there is. Just lunch..no nooner..just lunch. Better to just skip just lunch and go straight to the

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Erik Reuter
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thunder Cloud Subs at IH-35 and Sam Bass Rd. in Round Rock. Northwest corner of the intersection. Thunder Cloud is in the strip at the south end of the complex. Ah, intelligence has provided us with the information we require. And this is the axis

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Opportunity costs of war we invade! Justice will be served! With a side order of freedom fries. Dan M.

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thunder Cloud Subs at IH-35 and Sam Bass Rd. in Round Rock. Northwest corner of the intersection. Thunder Cloud is in the strip at the south end of the complex. Ah, intelligence has provided us with the information we require. And

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Opportunity costs of war we invade! Justice will be served! With a side order of freedom fries. No fries. They sell

Evil and Wrong

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
Finally, I would argue that the only justification for killing and war is weakness. If we were strong enough to stop evil actions without such extreme measures, then we would be morally compelled to do so. I cannot agree with the premise that underlies this -- that evil is out there

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
I see nothing wrong with pointing to Saddam and saying that he was doing extremely evil things. But the next step that we have take as a national policy, which is to say that they are evil and we are good, seems to me is hubris of the most dangerous kind. It is nationalistic idolatry. We

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-15 Thread Dan Minette
I see nothing wrong with pointing to Saddam and saying that he was doing extremely evil things. But the next step that we have take as a national policy, which is to say that they are evil and we are good, seems to me is hubris of the most dangerous kind. It is nationalistic idolatry. We

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:20 PM Friday 4/15/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Opportunity costs of war we invade! Justice will be served! With a

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:20 PM Friday 4/15/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Opportunity costs of war we invade!