Re: For David Brin and the rest of you

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:37 PM, ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO chided: Dan Minette thread-killed: I don't expect to see it, ever. I can see Alberto taking issue with this statement, except that it's just Dan stating his expectation. Are we to judge what Dan expects? But, that demo is an

Re: Multi-talented

2013-08-29 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Matt Grimaldi wrote: Maybe, but he would have had to change his name from David to Sergei. I know we're all very impressed with Dr. Brin, but this whole incident highlights *two* failures in his life. One, of course, is the seedy business of the alleged affair.

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-19 Thread Dave Land
Dan, Interesting article, thanks for the link. I am reminded of this, which came out in April, a preview of the EPI's State of Working America: 12th Edition — http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/ Until the early 1970s, hourly compensation rose with worker

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Gautam's book may prove unpopular with CEOs because it shows that a filtered leader is not that unique, there are many other candidates who would make the same decision. This would indicate that there is no business basis to pay, for example,

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-19 Thread Dave Land
approach to the age-old study of leadership. is a fairly objective indication that the book is worth reading. That's not a bad blurb from the author of A Team of Rivals. For me, that's close enough to this quote, which does not appear on the jacket: Dave Land, you must buy this book! — Doris

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Dan Minette wrote: One potential disruptive innovation would be a process that coverts CO2, sea water and sunlight into petrol, at a cheaper price than we pay at the pump. That would create tens of thousands of good new jobs. Sounds like this, about which I first

Re: VentureBeat article

2012-11-08 Thread Dave Land
My column may not get as much attention as Nick's, but it holds up. Dave On Nov 8, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:06, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Just stop staring at my column. I'm a married man. Oh, I'm sure you are...! • Warren •

Re: Video games v. other activities

2012-06-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Whew, thanks for that, Dan; sorry if I came off as if I was superior because reading is a priority for me, Dave. I saw my 9 year old son, this fathers' day. He wasn't interested in the soccer or volley balls I got him and just wanted to

Re: Video games v. other activities

2012-06-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: Also, When I was a lad, I spent my evenings coding online-worlds and communicating with people all over the planet, and my son seems to spend his days doing $thingthathasntbeeninventedyetin2012 and I think he's missing out… Maybe? :-) Yes,

Re: Brin: Book / Time = Joy% (KZK)

2012-06-18 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: For me time is too precious to waste playing video games. I canceled my cable and minimized my time on Facebook because they were cutting into my reading time. For me, video games — especially played with my son — are more

Re: Brin events

2012-06-15 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 14, 2012, at 11:21 PM, David Brin wrote: Sorry for the salesmanship, but I'm working hard! And it has been 8 years since a big brin book so I hope you don't mind! I think you can be forgiven, particularly if there's any chance that your Bay Area friends can buy you a drink while

Re: Brin: Debunking the Myth of Intuition

2012-05-29 Thread Dave Land
I might be wrong, but… This discussion reminded me of Malcolm Gladwell's Blink, which argues for paying more attention to what this piece refers to as System 1. That rapid-response part of our brain may have more value to us than our rational minds want to give credit. Also, it put me in mind

Re: Land Wars, Revenge of the Director

2012-05-15 Thread Dave Land
On May 15, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Dan Minette wrote: http://m.movies.com/movie-news/george-lucas-grady-ranch/7883 When I saw that story yesterday, I was impressed with Lucas and told some other folks about it. Then I thought about it a little more and wondered why I was cheering revenge-seeking. It

Dolphins uplifting each other in Australia?

2011-08-30 Thread Dave Land
Well, teaching each other how to fish, anyway: http://news.yahoo.com/fish-catching-trick-may-spreading-among-dolphins-080748681.html PERTH, Australia (Reuters) - Dolphins in one western Australian population have been observed holding a large conch shell in their beaks and using

Re: Google+

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Jo Anne wrote: evenstar5...@gmail.com Has been invited to Google+ Dave ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Transparent tracking with iphone.

2011-04-22 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 11:42 PM Thursday 4/21/2011, Dave Land wrote: On Apr 21, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Keith Henson wrote: Wonder what David thinks of this? http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/04/20/iphone.tracking/ David _Brin_ thinks this: http

Re: Transparent tracking with iphone.

2011-04-21 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 21, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Keith Henson wrote: Wonder what David thinks of this? http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/04/20/iphone.tracking/ David _Brin_ thinks this: http://twitter.com/#!/DavidBrin1/status/61181497515843584 Spy Conspiracy: Your iPhone is secretly tracking everywhere

Re: Family Portrait, II

2011-02-18 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 18, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?image_id=399 And just like some human family portraits, some members had just drifted too far away to be seen. Dave ___

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Dan Minette wrote: I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and not attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. You, sir, are un-American :-). Well said. Dave ___

Re: Wikileaks?

2010-12-07 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Or maybe it's everyone and their dog trying to access their new Facebook profile page: (...) Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned by sociopaths and perverts? Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which you refer are not

Re: Facebook('s policy on breastfeeding) is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Wikileaks?]

2010-12-07 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned by sociopaths and perverts? Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which you refer are not on my friends list, so they don't have any meaningful impact on my

Re: Brin: Arguing Doesn't Work: Fact Vs Belief

2010-11-15 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Matthew Bos wrote: New research suggests that misinformed people rarely change their minds when presented with the facts ? and often become even more attached to their beliefs. The finding raises questions about a key principle of a strong democracy: that a

Re: Brin: Arguing Doesn't Work: Fact Vs Belief

2010-11-15 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Matthew Bos wrote: New research suggests that misinformed people rarely change their minds when presented with the facts ? and often become even more attached to their beliefs. The finding raises questions about a key principle of a strong democracy: that a

Re: Can Honerable People Have Mortgages?

2010-10-27 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Chris Frandsen wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 20:39, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: The second is that the bank who gave them the loan knew that they didn't qualify for the loan, and had a high probability of eventually defaulting, but the officers of the

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-20 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Dan Minette wrote: When I talked about this last year with the Google people, they said that they still believed that you got more dollars for your money hiring engineers in Mountain View than in Durham or Austin. They could be wrong, but I wouldn't lay long

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-19 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 19, 2010, at 7:18 AM, anar...@gmail.com wrote: There's also people like me who figure I'll not see much, if anything out of them but don't grouse too much about paying for those already in their golden years. For many years, this is how I have understood Social Security: It's

Re: Down with the government!

2010-10-12 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote: Electronic forums are the ideal venue for brainstorming solutions for social issues, as you can take time to edit your comments. It also affords more people an

Re: DOWN with the government!~)

2010-10-10 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: I'm running because I want to oppose that system and give residents a voice in how those millions are spent with a virtual town hall forum on the city website, for transparency, and to hold city officials accountable. Jon You sound like the

Re: DOWN with the government!~)

2010-10-10 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Dave Land wrote: Where would a guy find you on Facebook? Searching for Jon Louis Mann didn't cut it. Never mind. I remembered that you and I are both friends of some guy named David Brin. Dave ___ http://box535

Re: Down with the government!

2010-10-08 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 8, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: I am also running for political office, for the tenth time...~{ Proving the old adage, if at first you don't succeed, don't have the common sense to quit? Of course, you understand that this was said in the friendliest way possible. Common

Re: Who dat?

2010-10-07 Thread Dave Land
Jon Louis Mann wrote: I am also running for political office, for the tenth time...~{ Proving the old adage, if at first you don't succeed, don't have the common sense to quit? Dave ___

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: There can't be too many different species, Noah's Ark wasn't big enough to carry them all! What, evolution stopped with the Ark? As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I have

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 04/08/2010, at 3:48 AM, Dave Land wrote: Then again, there's the Jewish tradition that The Satan isn't an embodiment of pure evil or some bad dude in red pajamas with a goatee and a pitchfork, but is, in fact, the prosecuting angel, whose

Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-27 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:42 AM, wp49284-ks wrote: Luckily, for most U.S. citizens freedom boils simply down to the right to carry and fire a gun. No need to worry about other aspects of freedom! As long as you want a country that aspires merely to imitate the animal world, as Nick notes:

Re: 1945 - 1998

2010-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 10/07/2010, at 2:21 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Um...we'll all go together when we go... Would you believe my 23 year old son knows many of Tom's songs without me introducing him to them? Yes. I discovered Lehrer, and Python, and George

Re: Having Dads makes you Happy

2010-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Dave Wrote Maybe we should retitle this thread Having dads makes you happy? Throat clearing noises I know this list is androcentric, but, come on! ...and having Moms makes you (fill in the blank)? Speaking entirely for myself, drawing on

Re: Having Dads makes you Happy

2010-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 02:02 PM Friday 7/9/2010, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l- boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Jo Anne Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:49 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al)

Re: Having Dads makes you Happy

2010-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 10/07/2010, at 6:21 AM, Dave Land wrote: How about Having dads and moms in the same house and married to each other? And if the parents are Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve? Or Madam and Eve. It seems that two parent families

Re: Having kids makes some people fulfilled

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Will you please stop bothering your sister Maru My sister is not Maru. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Having kids makes some people fulfilled

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Jim Sharkey wrote: On thing the article doesn't seem touch on, particularly in light of how it indicates single parents are worse off, is how much children can be a source of friction in their parents' relationship. It can be hard to be on the same page vis a

Re: Having kids makes some people fulfilled

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Dan Minette wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Will you please stop bothering your sister Maru My sister is not Maru. Maybe he was addressing Maru, who is lurking on the list. Damn that Maru

Re: Having kids makes you unhappy

2010-07-07 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: I'm glad I don't have any. Probably best you don't have any for your and for any children's sake, then, eh? Evidently, there's more to life than pleasing yourself. Dave ___

Re: Having kids makes you unhappy

2010-07-07 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Dan Minette wrote: On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: I'm glad I don't have any. Probably best you don't have any for your and for any children's sake, then, eh? Evidently, there's more to life than pleasing yourself. You know I'd agree

Having kids makes some people fulfilled

2010-07-07 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:59 PM, William T Goodall wrote: [Re: Dave] I think, from conversations and emails, that you and I are closer in fundamental values, even when we differ from time to time on how best to achieve goals we mutually agree upon. That's cruel. Dave doesn't deserve to tainted

Re: Off to Haiti

2010-05-20 Thread Dave Land
Nick, I'm not sure why Facebook would be blocking you because you're not on your computer, unless your computer at home is logged in at the same time? I have been posted from other computers lots of times. Here are some things to try: - Go to Facebook Mobile (even if you're not on a

The Onion: Study Reveals Dolphins Lack Capacity To Mock Celebrity Culture

2010-05-13 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Too quiet around here lately. Need a laugh? http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-reveals-dolphins-lack-capacity-to-mock-celeb,17422/ Dave ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Dave Land
On May 3, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: There was research on exactly that sort of strategy, a few decades ago. Then it went out of style and what research there was was starved of funding and allowed to die, and we went right back to the old habits. Wind/solar energy resources

Re: Today's EE/Physics homework assignment . . .

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://thereifixedit.com/2010/02/20/epic-kludge-photo-resistance-is-futile/ Beats the heck out of a trip to the hardware store, if you happen to have a bag of those things hanging around. How else are you gonna use up 50 identical

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Michael Harney wrote: Keith Henson wrote: I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who don't have any answers suggest it might just require the end of wasteful materialism and joke about soylent green. I agree, how dare they! Except, I

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: Keith Henson wrote: If we don't solve the energy problem as many as 6 out of 7 people will *die* in famines and resource wars. Where will they live? (I am a member of a tribe. Global civilization can go stuff itself.) I assume that you

Re: IPad

2010-01-29 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 29/01/2010, at 10:05 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jan 2010 at 11:28, Jon Louis Mann wrote: But how about the iPad???:-) Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days. learner i have been hearing that apple is coming out

Re: Web 2.0 Suicide Machine

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Land
Jeroen, On Jan 23, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: Tired of your Social Network? Besides committing suicide in Real Life, you can now also commit suicide in your Virtual Life! Someone came up with the Web 2.0 Suicide Machine, which lets you delete your social-networking

Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-22 Thread Dave Land
I believe the exact phrasing is: The free market is evil: why it should be eradicated On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: On Stardate 20100121.2342, Wayne Eddy wrote: Say something about the free market and how or bad it is and that should fire up the list! Nah, for

Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread Dave Land
_It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. Dave On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: No. Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: taps on microphone Is this thing on? /tapping Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume

Re: Better Off Ted

2010-01-12 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:31 PM, John Williams wrote: I think there are some Better Off Ted fans here. One of the episodes tonight, The Impertence of Communicationizing, looks like it will be pretty good. This website has some uncensored outtakes of the episode:

Re: Platform for gathering memories?

2010-01-08 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 8, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Wikipedia once began a project dedicated to the memories of the victims of 9/11, but latter the scope was changed to include the memories of everyone. I guess the project is still not active, after 6 years of useless discussions:

Re: Platform for gathering memories?

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 7, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Julia's question reminded me that you folks are a bit of a brain trust... I need to figure out what would be the best platform for gathering pictures, stories, videos and such about my sister, particular for her daughter to know her as she

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 29, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: For example, why on Hell should a site or list dedicated to, say, Linux, include advertisings about Viagra? Because someone, somewhere, has decided that we all need to see ads for

Re: [Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Dave Land
I found most of what I wanted to know about Anathem on the Anathem Wiki at wikia.com. Maybe that's a good place for us? Dave On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: Original Message From: - Sun Dec 27 19:10:30 2009 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001

Re: Avatar

2009-12-26 Thread Dave Land
. And, for a completely different take on the film from the OMG! Best. Movie. EVAR! that seem to predominate the reviews of Avatar: http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar There's more substance in the comments than the article, I think. Dave Land White^H^H^H^H^H^H

Re: Weekly Chat Reminder

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: The Weekly Brin-L chat is scheduled for Wednesday 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time. There's usually somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. If no-one is there when you arrive

Re: Fake religion

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 4, 2009, at 8:52 AM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Dec 2009, at 21:11, Bruce Bostwick wrote: All religions are fake from the perspective of those seeing them from outside. No religion is fake from the perspective of its true believers. Not a very useful metric, all things

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br wrote: I think that a more accurate definition is that Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds where carbon has a covalent bond with hydrogen, or to a

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Dan M wrote: Behalf Of Nick Arnett Organic gardening bugs me. Sounds like the opposite would be inorganic gardening. Like organic food...as though non-organic tomatoes were carbon free. I like to think of it as Amish

Re: How to tell if a star has planets?

2009-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Genesis Wave Maru ;} Is that like Google Wave, but older? How do I get an invite? ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: How to tell if a star has planets?

2009-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: David Hobby hob...@newpaltz.edu wrote: Debbi wrote: Are protoplanets made of protomatter?! Just who are these surveyors, and are they being unethical scientists!? Is protomatter related to protomorphogens, the 'primitive matter which

Re: For those still following the 'balloon boy' fracas

2009-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: sigh I'd rather that Colorado was in the news for something cool; instead, we have a misogynistic father (apparently passing along his nasty views) exploiting his sons for 'fame.' What a snot-rag. He's not the balloon boy, he's the

Re: How to tell if a star has planets?

2009-11-12 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: David Hobby hob...@newpaltz.edu wrote: Protomatter is obviously made out of protons. Protomorphogens would be made of protists? Only if protists are itsy-bitsy Animorphs

Is the Large Hadron Collider under attack from the future? It's operators think so...

2009-10-19 Thread Dave Land
New York Times: The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate http://su.pr/3287Ll [When the LHC is powered on after a year of repairs after an accident shut it down] it will be time to test one of the most bizarre and revolutionary theories in science. I’m not talking

Re: Google Wave

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Land
Wayne, Top-posting to say, Me, too, please! Dave On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Wayne Eddy wrote: No Problem, Nick. I will send you an invite - I think it might take a few days to process though. I assume you want to use this address nick.arn...@gmail.com ? Regards, Wayne. - Original

Nobel Prize for CCD Image Sensor Inventors

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Nobel Prize in Physics to be awarded to Willard S. Boyle and George E. Smith, co-inventors of the CCD image sensor: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0910/09100601nobelprize.asp Dave ___

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Dave Land
Folks, I admire the work done by the Public Conversations Project: http://publicconversations.org/ Their purpose is to facilitate conversations about hotly contested issues, training leaders and participants to avoid position-taking and recitation of talking-points and focus instead on

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-21 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Chris Frandsen wrote: A referral to Religion without being specific often sparks a response on this list. My wife is not a follower so she did not write this with this illustrious group in mind. Guys, I suggest taking her to task on this is part of the problem.

Re: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-09-07 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:53 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 19:06, Dave Land wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 6 Aug 2009, at 23:46, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, William T Goodallw...@wtgab.demon.co.uk wrote

Re: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-09-07 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:17 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 7 Sep 2009, at 21:44, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:53 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 19:06, Dave Land wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 6 Aug 2009, at 23:46, Mauro Diotallevi

Re: First, do no harm

2009-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Dan M wrote: -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l- boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Crystall Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:25 PM To: Killer Bs DDavid Brin et al Discussion Subject: Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

Re: Republican Cult

2009-09-01 Thread Dave Land
William, Aye. The application of religious thinking where it is not warranted (we differ in that you think it is /never/ warranted, I don't. Oh, well...) leads to crazy outcomes. The most vocal parts of the Republican party are doing just that: they're applying the logic of faith where

Re: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-09-01 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 6 Aug 2009, at 23:46, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, William T Goodallw...@wtgab.demon.co.uk wrote: William T Goodall Mail : w...@wtgab.demon.co.uk Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog :

Re: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-09-01 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: So what's wrong with a little ritualized cannibalism among consenting adults? ;-) See how amusing you think it is when they come to eat YOUR brain :-) Then isn't it completely grand that it is always and ever has

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-17 Thread Dave Land
On 16 Aug 2009 at 23:18, John Williams wrote: If the government is going to interfere in the insurance market, You call it interference, I call it participation. Well, at least you don't try to hide your bias. Dave ___

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-13 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 12, 2009, at 6:19 PM, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Dave Landdml...@gmail.com wrote: Other than various charities, there isn't a world government (i.e., a mutually agreed-upon means by which people can pitch in to help each other out) through which I can

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-12 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:31 PM, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Trent Shipleytship...@deru.com wrote: John Williams wrote: There are billions of people around the world with worse healthcare than virtually everyone in the United States. If the goal is to redistribute

Re: Brin: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-08-01 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 1, 2009, at 5:31 PM, David Brin wrote: Today's DVD's 1- are not universal if you record on minus or plus mode and many units throw fits, even then 2- fast-forward and reverse are a mess. They are twichy and over and undershoot like mad. 3- menu navigation is often torment 4-

Re: On the Occasion of a Seventeenth Birthday

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Son of a friend is turning 17 Saturday. I think I've distilled my life's wisdom (for 17-yer-olds anyway) down to three things. 1. You're too young to drink and too young to vote. But you're old enough to be tried as an

Re: WeChooseTheMoon

2009-07-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:40 AM, John Williams wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Don't you know that government interference in markets is bad, but corporate interference in markets is good? Corporations do not have the power to compel people at

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-18 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:20 AM, John Williams wrote: There are also people who do not seem to know what freedom actually means. Nor respect, respect enough to understand that each person knows what is best for themselves. Evidently, for some people, freedom means the right to refuse to

Re: WeChooseTheMoon

2009-07-17 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:43 PM, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: A free market economy has its limits? The goals of a free market economy aren't necessarily aligned with the best interests of the species? Huh? Best interest of the

Re: Mention of David Brin

2009-07-11 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 10, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 11/07/2009, at 1:25 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:07 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, hkhenson wrote: snip (considerable) On the other hand, also coming into my screen today was a blog entry

Re: Mention of David Brin

2009-07-11 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Jul 10, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 11/07/2009, at 1:25 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:07 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, hkhenson wrote: snip (considerable) On the other hand, also

Re: Mention of David Brin

2009-07-10 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:07 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, hkhenson wrote: snip (considerable) On the other hand, also coming into my screen today was a blog entry from The Oildrum, specifically ahttp://www.theoildrum.com/node/5485#more guest blog under the

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:35 PM, John Williams wrote: My prediction is that Chrome OS will never gain significant market share for high-powered computers, but it may make some inroads in netbooks (which are in between a notebook and a smart phone in terms of power). Of course, the google says Chrome

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can displace Windows as a

SCOUTED: e-Bike Project

2009-06-24 Thread Dave Land
Folks, A guy on a Canon 10D camera mailing list has been documenting his progress to convert a (fairly cheap, from the look of things) bike to an electric bike by replacing the front wheel with one that has a HUGE hub containing a motor. http://www.dlpco.com/2009EBike/ Turns out

Re: Will Brain Augmentation be considered Cheating?

2009-05-17 Thread Dave Land
Chris, \On May 16, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: Hi Dave: Did the medics get your pituitary? Chris f Nope, just a cat-brain-sized tumor in my right-frontal lobe. Dave Gave them a piece of my mind Maru ___

Photos of Solar Transit of STS-125 HST

2009-05-15 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Photographer Thierry Legault captured Atlantis and the Hubble during a 0.8-second transit of the sun. Cool photos. He's also got one of just the orbiter in transit that looks like an ad for some future space airline.

Re: Will Brain Augmentation be considered Cheating?

2009-05-14 Thread Dave Land
On May 14, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: Our society considers using hormone enhancement for improving physical performance cheating. Will we treat brain enhancement the same way? How about the Chinese, Japanese and Russians? Is this the new arms race? I suspect, yes, but it

Re: Will Brain Augmentation be considered Cheating?

2009-05-14 Thread Dave Land
On May 14, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: Our society considers using hormone enhancement for improving physical performance cheating. Will we treat brain enhancement the same way? How about the Chinese, Japanese and Russians? Is this the new arms race? I suspect, yes, but it

Re: Uplift Universe question....

2009-05-08 Thread Dave Land
On May 8, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Leonard Matusik nanotreasu...@yahoo.com wrote: ... though the initial Uplift of Earth was a rogue undertaking... accomplished by Wolflings far removed from the conventional wisdom of the Galactic Community...

Re: Uplift Universe question....

2009-05-08 Thread Dave Land
On May 8, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: According to Wikipedia (a reliable source for over 200 years, according to Wikipedia): I have been trying to find the origin of that particular piece of Wikipedia-mockery (that, according to Wikipedia itself, Wikipedia has been around for

Re: Ook.

2009-05-03 Thread Dave Land
On May 2, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Astronauts pay respects to 'space chimps' http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/05/01/astronauts.space.chimps/ Which, of course, reminded me of this, from the Onion: Sherpa Who Led Neil Armstrong To Moon Dead At 71

  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >